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Wii U Community Thread
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Ok but does anyone here recall sony's e3 05 presser,remember how every developer on/off stage went on and on about how cell is a really great processor and the ps3 is really easy to develop for including guys like tim sweeney and sam houser?I'm not directly comparing the 2 situations but i think it may be the case here too
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
I can't believe I didn't know that one.
Glorified G
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GIbiz is one of the most respected game sites out there & have legit connections to the industry. They don't just make shit up. If you think Stephen Totilo is credible, I don't see why you think GIbiz is not.
A publication can use anonymous sources AND be reputable you know. Unless you think the New York Times is a tabloid trash mag.
MadeInBeats
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chertipros
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Do you honestly believe that the wii u is less powerful than the 360? I don't care how reliable they are and i'm not doubting their industry connects but that article is total bs and we already have info that disproves it. The article is even filled with wii u screenshots that look better than anything the ps360 have produced so far
Yeah. Im not sure what people think these sites have to gain publishing the info.
MadeInBeats
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Sorry, but isn't this the infamous quote that was ripped to shit over how laughable it was? I only have a layman's understanding of tech.
Yeah, this GI.Biz article is the shit man... what a fascinating insight into people who give it any time what-so-ever.
Yeah, me either... how many times you clicked on it?
Probably some french ubisoft dev talking in broken English lol.
I would have clicked it as many times if they would have said the system was 4x more powerful than 360 too. Why aren't all the reports going in that direction?
^What kind of developer talks like that? That's freakin 5th-grader grammer my man lol.
The funny thing is a lot of people believed that rumor.
Still, MHZ alone doesn't tell us anything.
Circumstantial evidence tells us WiiU CPU is going to be better than X360.
MadeInBeats
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I know I am a few pages back - (and skipping most of the crap about the CPU) - but I find this topic endlessly fascinating. I was thinking the same thing about Measure Up, but we of course may never see it again.
Would love to see Pictionary packed in as well.
snowdog1971
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Yes, the if the paper performance is 3x, the real world practical performance will be even better, however the full 1080p takes some of that away and other compute-heavy effects, the GFX will be upped. For western 3rd parties that always will go with GFX they will go more than nintendo, the WiiU will offer nintendo to GREATELY expand their gameplay experience with much larger worlds and it'll really be a big step higher in their first-party series.
Given the fact that these are early inputs, it'll be even higher when developers such as id software tackle at it with the mission to take the most out of the system, it's just a matter of time.
DeviousAngel
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Is it safe to come out now?
It'd hard to come up with a retort to something as definitive as "oh come on."
ColdBlooder
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Sooner or later, for one specific reason, i will call you "Van Owned" for all eternity...
MadeInBeats
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Send me a link to another anonymous source that says things like 'not as many shaders' 'graphics are just not as powerful'. Or you could of course offer absolutely anything that's of interest... a radical idea there for you.
I've already provided multiple reports from reputable sites and people. It seems nothing is ever going to be good enough for you.
can we have another WII U official thread?
when we can talk about other aspect not only graphic-related?
DeviousAngel
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We've already had this discussion, when the name was changed. Many were opposed, since they'd rather have all WiiU information condensed in a single thread.
Have we discussed the possibility of NintendoLand being partially packed in?
That is:
Nintendo could possibly pack in some "attractions" from NintendoLand(maybe the 5 we saw already), and offer the full pack - all 12 games - for purchase online & retail. If they go that route, they may even allow you to buy individual attractions online - in addition to what was packed in - with a slight discount incentive for the full pack. Something like: $4.99 individually, $29.99 full pack.
I'm hoping they do pack in NintendoLand with ALL the attractions. But when you compare this offering with Wii Sports - 12 games vs 5, plus deeper content - it's hard to believe they'll do it. That why I've been thinking about the scenario I posted above.
However way they do it, it does seem like a no-brainer that they'll add more attractions as DLC. Perhaps giving you the option to grow/expand/customize your theme park. This game may turn out to be a real winner for Nintendo.
That is:
Nintendo could possibly pack in some "attractions" from NintendoLand(maybe the 5 we saw already), and offer the full pack - all 12 games - for purchase online & retail. If they go that route, they may even allow you to buy individual attractions online - in addition to what was packed in - with a slight discount incentive for the full pack. Something like: $4.99 individually, $29.99 full pack.
I'm hoping they do pack in NintendoLand with ALL the attractions. But when you compare this offering with Wii Sports - 12 games vs 5, plus deeper content - it's hard to believe they'll do it. That why I've been thinking about the scenario I posted above.
However way they do it, it does seem like a no-brainer that they'll add more attractions as DLC. Perhaps giving you the option to grow/expand/customize your theme park. This game may turn out to be a real winner for Nintendo.
MadeInBeats
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(Gi.biz -> new article = ("graphics just not as powerful")
else
("on record quotes that AC3, Aliens etc etc will be the best looking versions on console"
echo "only a complete gullible fool would STILL believe bulshit like that.";
)
Imagine this is a game of Top Trumps, developer quoted on record, always beats anonymous shite. Pretty simple.
Lol, this is a different game of Top Trumps. The best anonymous rumour wins. 1080p on Wii U STANDARD... confirmed!!
(Gi.biz -> new article = ("graphics just not as powerful")
else
("on record quotes that AC3, Aliens etc etc will be the best looking versions on console"
echo "only a complete gullible fool would STILL believe bulshit like that.";
)
Imagine this is a game of Top Trumps, developer quoted on record, always beats anonymous shite. Pretty simple.
Who said AC3 would look best on Wii U? All I recall is Shane Satterfield saying he THOUGHT it looked best at e3. Were a lo of press saying that?
Glorified G
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Since GS is taking pre orders soon, any chance the launch price will be revealed or leaked within the next week or so? Do we have to wait until September?
chertipros
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There will Most likely be a nintendo direct revealing the price in a week or so so i don't think you will have to wait until september
lordfroakie
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Talk about something relavent and stop derailing the thread with useless wiiu power arguments. We already beeen through this shit before. Now, let's discuss possible two skus or ad dons please.
Glorified G
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Good. I know it's a pipe dream, but I'm still holding out for a $249. Who wouldn't buy it at that price?
MadeInBeats
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Aliens: CM, Fifa 13... both OFFICIALLY confirmed to be the best looking versions.
MadeInBeats
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Yeah, you're absolutely right; can't argue. Van Owen is going on my banned list. lol. He's had too many chances. Can't reason with a professional career troll.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
You're standing in the way of this thread hitting the 20k mark. Back off.
Ok? I'm not arguing that Wii U games can't look better than 360 games or anything...
Name calling shouldn't be tolerated.
Ofcourse it will, given the time - the biggest limitation in Rage why it had so low-quality texture resolution. With 1.5 GB of RAM or more usable to developers, it's day and night.
That's the most ironic statement you made, because precisely RAM is the biggest bottleneck to better graphics and graphics are 80% textures that are memory hungry.
And all of the new effects from compute shaders, better GPU tech level, is going to make post processing even better than what on x360. It's a game changer even ofcourse it doesn't look on the outside as much, don't be fooled by the perception.
MadeInBeats
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Shit, he's saying things but I cant see what he's said!! My quality of life just went up 2.1%!! Amazin'!
There's a video comparing the PS3 and Wii U version and you can clearly see the Wii U version looks better.
If you tradeoff some of the graphcis, yes.
When there's nothing actually to talk about we have these tons of worthless back&forth posts.
There's no need to become skeptical of previous performance assesments and milestones just because we're in the silence before the storm. Usually the finalized stuff gets better than anything in prototypes.
See that's an example of a worthless post. No need to report about it, if the guy doesn't get it how wrong he is then he is definitely trolling or resisting to learn, we shouldn't be wasting time with that. I am perfectly fine and welcome to explain to anyone who asks out of his interest, otherwise it's ridicolous. A good behavior is "to not discuss what you have no idea about."
nordique
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... no, no they have not....don't put words in their mouths. bg has been very clear and Ideaman never claimed such things as facts as he always presented information from what "he was told"...and no one ever said "4x" as the high end.
Its somewhere in the range of 2-3x, and 3x is on the high end. Even so, using such multipliers are ridiculous since they can vary on so many levels and don't really tell anything other than a "layman" understanding.
Wii U will be more powerful than current gen, but at the same time it is going to be "on par" with the current systems, yet (should) be able to match the next gen systems for feature set or perhaps architecture/design philosophy.
Ummm... ad revenue? They post an inflammatory conversation topic, get clicks, get money. That's how the modern internet works.
And I remember seeing "anonymous sources" tell me how the GameCube was total and utter shit compared to the PS2... so there's that.
It's to the point that you can't trust what anyone says until you can get it at retail, and then the truth starts to come out.
According to this highly intelligent man, it only looks better because of the "HD" effect the "blue tint" gives to the game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1VXbI_T2o0&feature=plcp
Dolphin emulator is useless, just put a blue tint on your TV screen.
I'm not going to make judgements based on cam footage.
nordique
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I agree, and I think you are justified in making your claims...arguments are never fun if they're always one sided and I welcome your cautious opinion; its a valid one for those who think Nintendo should have been more aggressive with the hardware.
that said, you should perhaps consider waiting until the specs come. Truth is, no one really knows anything specific about the system's performance, and its a brand new system.
Nintendo themselves have admitted to it being a new architecture (slight different way to develop for it) than the other current HD systems, so its likely that we won't know the full picture for some time.
You should, rather than suggesting it is holding a weak CPU, wait until you (and others) have more facts. I think its just a waste of time and pointless debate, on both ends, otherwise.
Pretty much, Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft don't even need to put HD in because all they need is a blue tint...And GTX 670 lol.
Why do you find it so hard to believe a next gen console is getting a better looking multiplat game than current gen?.
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