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[neoemonk]

The highs and lows in this thread for me are ridiculous.

YOU CAN PLAY WII GAMES ON THE GAMEPAD?! THAT'S AMAZING

But you have to use a...Wiimote?

I am disappoint.

 

[Nostremitus]

Download complete, it's updating fairly quickly.

 

[Darko]

Doing my second playthrough of Skyward Sword on the GamePad confirmed!

Should look amazing.

good luck with that.

 

[Tybolt]

It's a little sad this is considered an amazing Wii U update.

This. Not allowing the Gamepad to act as a Classic Controller is pretty much the most inane thing. They shouldn't have even bothered.

 

[DJwest]

Do Wii U owners not like their TVs?

I know right? This is amazing lol

 

[DaxMedFlax]

Wii games are so entwined with the wiimote I'm finding it odd people thought they could bypass all motion controls and use the gamepad.

As I read more and more I see it was a common expectation.

Well, without this option this feature went from great to pretty much worthless IMO.

 

[Shauni]

omg no kidding, maybe I won't sell my wii u

EDIT: provided I can use the gamepad as the controller

How use could you play them off tv?

EDIT: nvm, now I see what you mean.

 

[Subaru]

ニンテンドーネットワークIDの設定項目を追加
パソコンやスマートフォンなど、任天堂ゲーム機以外の機器からニンテンドーネットワークのサービスを利用するかどうかを設定できるようにしました。


It seems that now we can manage our Nintendo ID from browsers

 

[Zuhzuhzombie!!]

11 pages to go from hype to disappointment.

 

[TheCongressman1]

I imagine the reason for no gamepad controls for off tv wii play is because you can't make motion controls work with a control stick and buttons :U

Games like Mario Galaxy and Donkey Kong had simple tacked on motion controls. Shouldn't be hard to make them work. IR can be replaced by touch screen, and waggle can be mapped to a button.

Of course Skyward Sword is going to need a Wiimote though.

 

[jivran]

I know the off-tv play solution for Wii games isn't exactly perfect, but does this not mean that, from a technical perspective, Nintendo could have future updates that enhance BC, such as pro controller support?

 

[Astral/H3X]

"パソコンやスマートフォンなど、任天堂ゲーム機以外の機器からニンテンドーネットワークのサービスを利用するかどうかを設定できるようにしました。"

No one is commenting on this? I haven't plugged it into google translate or anything but this is clearly talking about accessing NN game... something (services?) from PCs and smartphones.

 

[M3d10n]

Given that they're not adverse to hacking through Wii mode video display to the gamepad, I am really surprised there's not classic controller emulation mapping for the buttons on the Wii U gamepad.

Sure, you cannot change Wii games that require a wii remote, but *plenty* of Wii games have CC and CC Pro support and can be played entirely with those.

Yeah, they could even emulate the IR pointer using the touch screen.

 

[GulAtiCa]

I love some of the comments about this. going from "best thing ever!" to "Nintendo is the worst company ever". :lol

 

[antonz]

can stay logged in on gaf now too in the wii u browser

 

[hatchx]

Games like Mario Galaxy and Donkey Kong had simple tacked on motion controls. Shouldn't be hard to make them work. IR can be replaced by touch screen, and waggle can be mapped to a button.

Of course Skyward Sword is going to need a Wiimote though.

Would need to be patched wouldn't it?

 

[StreetsAhead]

ニンテンドーネットワークIDの設定項目を追加
パソコンやスマートフォンなど、任天堂ゲーム機以外の機器からニンテンドーネットワークのサービスを利用するかどうかを設定できるようにしました。


It seems that now we can manage our Nintendo ID from browsers

Oh, yeah, and Smartphones too.

You can also save passwords in the browser.
There's also some web development stuff for the browser.

 

[Sandfox]

ニンテンドーネットワークIDの設定項目を追加
パソコンやスマートフォンなど、任天堂ゲーム機以外の機器からニンテンドーネットワークのサービスを利用するかどうかを設定できるようにしました。


It seems that now we can manage our Nintendo ID from browsers

How is that going to work?

 

[big_erk]

Under 1 minute!!!

 

[starwarsfan541]

Games like Mario Galaxy and Donkey Kong had simple tacked on motion controls. Shouldn't be hard to make them work. IR can be replaced by touch screen, and waggle can be mapped to a button.

Of course Skyward Sword is going to need a Wiimote though.

I think they will have "patches" to buy on the eshop for this and maybe HD textures/ upressing.

 

[UncleSporky]

This. Not allowing the Gamepad to act as a Classic Controller is pretty much the most inane thing. They shouldn't have even bothered.

You think the Wii interprets the pad as a Wii remote? Like, wirelessly it identifies itself as a normal Wii remote with a CC plugged in?

It doesn't detect it at all. It's a different piece of hardware. It can't suddenly be spoofed for the Wii innards to think it's a remote.

 

[Talamius]

Why not just allow the gamepad to emulate a CCPro? Ah, the roller coasters.....

 

[blamite]

78% installed.

 

[Samurai_Heart]

"パソコンやスマートフォンなど、任天堂ゲーム機以外の機器からニンテンドーネットワークのサービスを利用するかどうかを設定できるようにしました。"

No one is commenting on this? I haven't plugged it into google translate or anything but this is clearly talking about accessing NN game... something (services?) from PCs and smartphones.

Think they had said they intended to let people buy eShop games etc from a browser and so forth

 

[Kyzon]

Girlfriend's wii u is at 10 percent, and mine is at 0

 

[popeutlal]

ニンテンドーネットワークIDの設定項目を追加
パソコンやスマートフォンなど、任天堂ゲーム機以外の機器からニンテンドーネットワークのサービスを利用するかどうかを設定できるようにしました。


It seems that now we can manage our Nintendo ID from browsers

What's there to manage?

 

[Whogie]

Download complete. Firmware's been flashing for a while.

I imagine the reason for no gamepad controls for off tv wii play is because you can't make motion controls work with a control stick and buttons :U

Pretty sure the gamepad has an accelerometer. It un-dims when I pick it up.

 

[Saint Gregory]

Wouldn't that require individually patching every Wii game?

Not really, the Vita let's you map dual shock buttons to the rear and front touch for example. It would still take work for Nintendo to implement though.

 

[jivran]

Also, I really hope this update doesn't break Wii homebrew. This had to require an update to the vWii software, right?

 

[WordsintheWater]

Seems like they added some cool stuff, but what's the point of adding the ability to play wii games on the gamepad if you have to use the wii mote to play?

 

[Brofield]

Actually...that means around half of us we'll have to remember to switch sensor bar settings for those of us who have to keep it below the TV normally.

Minor annoyance, but again, hopes for future updates to automatically/temporarily set it to above TV when you can select GamePad only.

 

[BruiserBear]

You think the Wii interprets the pad as a Wii remote? Like, wirelessly it identifies itself as a normal Wii remote with a CC plugged in?

It doesn't detect it at all. It's a different piece of hardware. It can't suddenly be spoofed for the Wii innards to think it's a remote.

Of course it's possible. You can fix pretty much anything with coding.

Seems like they added some cool stuff, but what's the point of adding the ability to play wii games on the gamepad if you have to use the wii mote to play?

I guess for Japan? Where apartments are small and multiple TVs are a rarity?

 

[AzaK]

This. Not allowing the Gamepad to act as a Classic Controller is pretty much the most inane thing. They shouldn't have even bothered.

Exactly. A waste of their resources when there are so many other things needing doing. If they weren't going to do it properly, they needn't have bothered.

 

[VanWinkle]

"パソコンやスマートフォンなど、任天堂ゲーム機以外の機器からニンテンドーネットワークのサービスを利用するかどうかを設定できるようにしました。"

No one is commenting on this? I haven't plugged it into google translate or anything but this is clearly talking about accessing NN game... something (services?) from PCs and smartphones.

It's too hard to understand what it's saying.

 

[Astral/H3X]

ACTUAL UPDATING GOGOGOGOGGOGO.

 

[sikkinixx]

I was so stoked to finally play Xenoblade off TV...

 

[FLAguy954]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wiiu/support/system_update/index.html

Japanese page updated.

Wii games have Off TV play (still requires Wiimotes) and surround sound baby!

Oh shit, new news new thread!

 

[Whogie]

Also, I really hope this update doesn't break Wii homebrew. This had to require an update to the vWii software, right?

I'll test the Homebrew channel and Devolution when I finish flashing.

 

[matrix-cat]

Wii games are so entwined with the wiimote I'm finding it odd people thought they could bypass all motion controls and use the gamepad.

As I read more and more I see it was a common expectation.

Well, it was the only thing that came to mind for me, because I don't understand how the alternative is supposed to work. I guess the Gamepad acts like a tiny little TV? So you set it up on a desk in front of you and then use your Wiimote and Nunchuk in the cramped space between it and you? Seems extremely awkward. You'd have such a tiny little range of motion for any games that required the pointer.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

Seems like they added some cool stuff, but what's the point of adding the ability to play wii games on the gamepad if you have to use the wii mote to play?

Baby steps

 

[wsippel]

Pretty sure the gamepad has an accelerometer. It un-dims when I pick it up.

Accelerometer, gyroscope and magnetometer.

 

[EloquentM]

Exactly. A waste of their resources when there are so many other things needing doing. If they weren't going to do it properly, they needn't have bothered.

Harp on Azak. That dead horse isn't bruised nearly enough.

 

[MrPressStart]

Wow.... Wish I had my wiki. Got it stored while we do remodeling on the house. Can't wait till we move back in so I can get the update and play Zelda.

 

[UncleSporky]

Guys, all this update does is have the console output a video signal to the pad and lights up the pad's IR strip.

It doesn't make the Wii innards suddenly detect the pad as if it were a Wii remote + CC. Because it's different hardware that doesn't work the same way and would probably cause all kinds of weirdness.

I mean, is it even the same type of bluetooth communication?

 

[Mockingbird]

I guess you can say with the update there's more value added to the wii u since you won't need to have a tv to play wii games.

 

[jackal27]

good luck with that.

Actually, Skyward Sword uses Wii Motion Plus exclusively. You wouldn't even need to use the sensor bar.

 

[frankie_baby]

Actually...that means around half of us we'll have to remember to switch sensor bar settings for those of us who have to keep it below the TV normally.

Minor annoyance, but again, hopes for future updates to automatically/temporarily set it to above TV when you can select GamePad only.

I cant imagine the numbers with the sensor bar below tv is anywhere close to half

 

[Surfheart]

Can someone confirm if you can now output sound over the analogue port while using the HDMI port for video?

 

[terrisus]

I so would have finally opened my copy of The Last Story if I could play it on the Gamepad. I understand motion control games wouldn't work, but ones that supported the Classic or GCN controller would work just fine, I'd assume those would be fine. Oh well, maybe next time....

Seriously, this is heartbreakingly disappointing.

 

[MegalonJJ]

So can someone confirm the following:

I can output picture to tv via HDMI, whilst using the AV port to output audio only? Stereo only right? Or 5.1 too?

Can someone confirm stereo works with HDMI and Wii composite cable please?