IceDoesntHelp
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Rösti;35128817 said:
lolol, they must have a time machine.
Wii U Speculation Thread 2: Can't take anymore of this!!!
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lolol, they must have a time machine.
Let's spice this domain mystery up:
- www.wiiu.de is not available; but www.wii-u.de works and connects to NOE
- www.wii-u.fr opens up a brief line which says "powered by ganguill"; Now, www.wiiu.fr connects to NOE
- www.wii-u.es is empty, www.wiiu.es connects to NOE
- www.wii-u.it opens up an Italian Wii U blog while www.wiiu.it connects to NOE
And so on.. you see how crazy we get with no new info, Nintendo?! Thread title says it all!
Agreed on all accounts.
Going educational would make sense actually. Not just because of the tablet, but because they've already tested the waters with stuff like Wii Fit, and given that they've been taking their cues from Apple since the Wii and the DS Lite, educational software would be another way to put a fun spin on something Apple does (Apple is big on education it seems).
Rösti;35128817 said:
Wiiu.com as a particular status. It's a 4 chars domain with the 1st world top level domain (extension, the .com). 4, 5 and maybe today 6 chars domains with the .com and .net tlds are all created. Nintendo will need to push some money here to get the domain!
ShockingAlberto
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Well that's interesting.
Just great =/
Guess the Nintendo Ninjas visited Ubisoft then.
Seriously, as if Ubisoft would pass up on an opportunity to port their games..
ShockingAlberto
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It is unlikely they would straight up deny it.
specialguy
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This is another reason I have reservations about Wii U's power.
I think if it was nice and powerful, there would be a lot more developer interest. Rather than the lukewarm feeling that seems to exist.
I just cant see Ubisoft not wanting a crack at Wii U if it really, you know, felt like any kind of major leap.
OTOH if it's just in league with PS3 and 360, those lukewarm feelings suddenly become very understandable.
Just stop and think about it for a minute. Why would they NOT want to blaze next gen trails?
radioheadrule83
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They've not said they're not making Wii-U games, they're just saying that the released list for 2012 (which claimed those were Wii-U titles and contained releases for other platforms) is "inaccurate".
IceDoesntHelp
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This is another reason why people think you troll.
I think if you didn't post such posts, there would be a lot more people interested in what you are saying. Rather than them feeling like you are trolling.
I just can't see why you'd want to troll anyway, you know, it just doesn't feel right.
OTOH if its just you trolling because you hate Nintendo, it suddenly becomes very understandable.
Just stop and think about it for a minute before you post.
amidoinitrite?
Seriously, if its as powerful as the 360 (even though multiple developers have said its stronger) Ubisoft will port it to the Wii U. Its pure logic.
ClovingWestbrook
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Agreed. If the Wii U was going to be more powerful than the SNES we'd see more publishers on board but alas there aren't. Wii U less powerful than SNES confirmed.
I think it has to do more with Nintendo perception on the 3rd party eyes, than machine power, developers didn't think twice to port games to PS2 (or making exclusives), even when the console wasn't in the same league than Xbox/GCN, power wise.
ShockingAlberto
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The logic doesn't really follow.
The made a launch game for the Wii. They don't really care about power. Ubisoft is the PUA of third party development - as long as the body is warm, they'll develop for it.
If AC3 doesn't get ported to the Wii U, it's unlikely because of power, and more likely because they didn't have devkits in time and the team is rushing to get the game out this winter.
If you want to turn this in to chicken littleing, go ahead, but at least try to have a logical thread here.
Haven't you heard?
Nintendo doesn't give a shit about graphics, every system they've ever made has been a weak and extremely underpowered gimmick machine!
The line-up being inaccurate could just mean that Nintendo is changing the name, so "coming to Wii U" would be inaccurate.
Or he's covering his ass because of the ninjas.
Whatever it is, I don't think it makes sense to jump to the conclusion that the Wii U can't run it. Yet.
Or he's covering his ass because of the ninjas.
Whatever it is, I don't think it makes sense to jump to the conclusion that the Wii U can't run it. Yet.
ShockingAlberto
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I will say that third party interest being lukewarm is a difficult claim to make if you're outside the industry, but I'm not going to disagree with it.
However, it's faaaaar more on the publisher side and deeply-entrenched in the belief that third-party games can not sell on Nintendo systems and has almost nothing to do with power.
There have been a number of times I have heard that "Nintendo is doing it right this time," and an equal number of "If you're not published by Nintendo, you're not going to do well."
But among those developers, Ubisoft is not one I would be concerned about refusing to develop for the system. Again, warm body, etc.
However, it's faaaaar more on the publisher side and deeply-entrenched in the belief that third-party games can not sell on Nintendo systems and has almost nothing to do with power.
There have been a number of times I have heard that "Nintendo is doing it right this time," and an equal number of "If you're not published by Nintendo, you're not going to do well."
But among those developers, Ubisoft is not one I would be concerned about refusing to develop for the system. Again, warm body, etc.
IceDoesntHelp
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At this rate I just hope it gets out before THQ completely dissolves.
Do you mind explaining what your connection is with the industry? I've seen others defer to your statements before, and I'm just curious as to why.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
oh, i wouldn't worry too much.
ShockingAlberto
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Yup!
I mostly just have friends from my journalist days. No, I'm not going to outline who they are.
mugurumakensei
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ah ninjas it is.
He can't say too much, the ninjas are always watching.Do you mind explaining what your connection is with the industry? I've seen others defer to your statements before, and I'm just curious as to why.
Oh, I'm not asking for your sources. I was just wondering if you worked inside the industry somewhere. That makes sense though, thanks.
Which is understandable, if, like the Wii porting was a significant undertaking that required extra work and manpower.
For a system much closer in power like Wii-U though? It's a no-brainer. Everything is multiplat these days, and they would have been last gen too, if not for the PS2 having such a dominate position.
Wii-U should get pretty much every big multiplat game, wii would have too, if not for the power difference. The nintendo canibalizing sales thing is largely an excuse not to allocate resources to a 3rd system that pretty much entails completely reworking the game.
The power difference is likely to be marginal between MSFT's and Ninty's system, at least in practical terms for multiplats running cross platform middleware engines like epic's or ubi's or capcom's. Therefore wii-u will likely get all the ports it needs. If anything it could well cut ms out of some japanese games, those companies seem much more willing to support home-grown systems over micro's anyhow. As development prices go up games will be ported to more and more platforms, including Wii-U.
Which may well be enough to guarantee ninentdo's win overall. A system with without a doubt the Biggest first party games there are, and all the relevant 3rd party stuff, plus some japanese goodness (nintendo is totally into moneyhatting jp 3rd party exclusives now) they should be able to win the war with gamers and the sales-age shit.
Nintendou.com and Nintendou.net are not available, the domestic domains though are.
Also, Nintendo-u is available in all forms.
Not that I'm responding to him directly, but
The only thing close to that which would be true is: lack of hardware compatible with popular middleware = lack of multiplatform titles. Of course, we haven't heard anything which indicates Wii U hardware isn't/wouldn't be compatible with any of the popular middleware platforms. All we've heard is that it's in the exact opposite situation that the Wii found itself in regarding multiplats.
...this troll relies on a fallacy which I think a lot of people accept at face value: more hardware power = more 3rd party support.
The only thing close to that which would be true is: lack of hardware compatible with popular middleware = lack of multiplatform titles. Of course, we haven't heard anything which indicates Wii U hardware isn't/wouldn't be compatible with any of the popular middleware platforms. All we've heard is that it's in the exact opposite situation that the Wii found itself in regarding multiplats.
Fixed for 2008.
Smiles and Cries
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companies should learn not to name a product until they secure the domain for it these days
no one wants to type a - in domains
no one wants to type a - in domains
Fourth Storm
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This sucks. I can't take it with these damn ninjas anymore!
I can only guess that Nintendo doesn't want to hype Assassin's Creed as a mere port. They'll likely reveal some sort of exclusive features which utilize the touch screen. Still, this is all very frustrating.
I can only guess that Nintendo doesn't want to hype Assassin's Creed as a mere port. They'll likely reveal some sort of exclusive features which utilize the touch screen. Still, this is all very frustrating.
I keep seeing this guy on GAF all the time. Who is he and where is he from?
His name is Dale and he's from The Walking Dead tv series.
-Pyromaniac-
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how could you not know
Anyway like I said, just change the name to Wii 2, problems solved.
Even better news, then, that the circle pads on the WiiU pad have a wider radius than the 3DS pads.
snowdog1971
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For me I think that Trophies are more addictive than Achievements because of the RPG-esque leveling system - the higher your level the more Trophies you need to level up. The score-based model that Live uses for Achievements isn't anywhere near as addictive for me personally.
For the Nintendo Network Accomplishments I'd like to see Nintendo using a level-based system similar to PSN combined with having Mii accessories, themes etc for completing games 100%.
I've also been thinking that Nintendo could have something akin to PlayStation Home but on a bigger scale, perhaps even having separate countries/States/Cities and allowing travel between them.
Fourth Storm
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http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/36465.wss
Old? This announcement obviously goes far beyond potential WiiU implications (IBM is apparently manufacturing Trinity for AMD), but since we were speculating that the GPU might be a 32nm part, perhaps there is some significance here. IBM's East Fishkill fab is where the 45nm Wii U CPU is being produced. Rumors around these boards seem to point at a high level of integration between all system parts, with IBM and Nintendo playing a large role in adapting the AMD Radeon base to the Wii U's specific needs. We also haven't heard anything at all from NEC, Nintendo's historical partner in manufacturing. Might Nintendo ditch NEC and go with IBM/GF for the WiiU?
Old? This announcement obviously goes far beyond potential WiiU implications (IBM is apparently manufacturing Trinity for AMD), but since we were speculating that the GPU might be a 32nm part, perhaps there is some significance here. IBM's East Fishkill fab is where the 45nm Wii U CPU is being produced. Rumors around these boards seem to point at a high level of integration between all system parts, with IBM and Nintendo playing a large role in adapting the AMD Radeon base to the Wii U's specific needs. We also haven't heard anything at all from NEC, Nintendo's historical partner in manufacturing. Might Nintendo ditch NEC and go with IBM/GF for the WiiU?
What does this has to do with Nintendo or the Wii U?
Fourth Storm
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It's my own speculation on what process the Wii U GPU will be on and who would manufacture it. If the info in this thread is to be believed, it's either a 32nm part or a 28nm one. 32nm would probably be the safer bet, and the link may support that they have the capabilities of producing the chips in large quantities in the coming months.
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Rösti
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Uh-oh Spaghettios, there seems to be further problems for Nintendo regarding the Wii U trademark. In Europe, a company called Information Technology Junction Limited has opposed the trademark Wii U. I shall note for reference that Nintendo has in in Europe (through the Office for Harmonization in the Internal Market) applied for one word mark and two figurative marks (two logotypes). Information Technology Junction Limited opposes the word mark, which is the most important. The opposition is on the following grounds:
The opposition was made on the 27th of January, so this is not brand new, but I have not seen it posted before. Could this be a contributing reason to why Nintendo has yet to respond to the suspension letter that was sent to them by the USPTO on the 11th of January?
As Information Technology Junction Limited appears to have no homepage, I couldn't retrieve any information from there, but UK's Companies House has the following on record:
Source: http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/trademark/data/010377331
The opposition was made on the 27th of January, so this is not brand new, but I have not seen it posted before. Could this be a contributing reason to why Nintendo has yet to respond to the suspension letter that was sent to them by the USPTO on the 11th of January?
As Information Technology Junction Limited appears to have no homepage, I couldn't retrieve any information from there, but UK's Companies House has the following on record:
Now, these things are fairly common, but it's less common for a Nintendo trademark than a patent to be opposed. Though there is the good example of Ultra 64 where Nintendo had to drop the Ultra in the name as that was a trademark of Konami. And I suppose the problems with differences between regional abbreviations of Gamecube (NGC in Japan, GCN outside Japan) could be mentioned as well. Anyway, this is going to be interesting.
Forsaken82
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brochiller
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It's because Wii U isn't the final name...
woo and indeed hoo
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How dare they make a profit on each sale?! :x They should make billions in losses on the hardware and then re-coup it on the software sales! :x [/nerdentitlement]
Oh don't worry dear, I want one too. I just like stringing you along!
but please be careful and don't get yourself banned again!
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