Wii U Speculation Thread 2: Can't take anymore of this!!!

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Throw in some limited time offer: The first 30 days, a selected or selectable GC game is free for people joining NiN. Nintendo could give everyone who buys and connects the WiiU during launch a special Ambassador insignia as well.

So... like the free month of XBL Gold you could exploit three times when you bought a 360?
 
I'm guessing some GCN titles for VC will be given improvements and they'll most likely be compressed for speedier downloading, if such a thing exists.

Like and HD Tingle Tuner for WW.

Speedier downloading? With my connection I'd download 1,5GB in three minutes. What kind of ancient ISDN setup are you rocking?
 
Throw in some limited time offer: The first 30 days, a selected or selectable GC game is free for people joining NiN. Nintendo could give everyone who buys and connects the WiiU during launch a special Ambassador insignia as well.

Agreed. I can see them totally doing what they do with 3DS eShop (free Excite Bike) and Ambassador Programm (sort of, 20 games was for a special reason).
A free downloadable game for each Wii U until the end of the year, I think we can definitely look forward to this.

And in the speculation register, I think we need to look at the early Gamecube games: Luigi Mansion (despite it's still a good candidate to new play controls) to echo LM2 on 3DS.
Smash Bros Melee, you can dream/laught, but if Nintendo is serious about getting gamers in, free SSBM download at launch? Wow it will be incredible. And not so much a money looser if you only have until the end of 2012 to do so.
Finally, NPC Pikmin, the game can be tweaked again and be playable with the wiimote or the Upad, and be a nice Pikmin fiesta for launch alongside Pikmin 3.
 
Throw in some limited time offer: The first 30 days, a selected or selectable GC game is free for people joining NiN. Nintendo could give everyone who buys and connects the WiiU during launch a special Ambassador insignia as well.
The first Wii U achievement trophy (Uprize) in your Ufile user profile is "Bought Your Wii U before December 2012!"
 
So... like the free month of XBL Gold you could exploit three times when you bought a 360?

Well unlike that it should give people an incentive to hook up the console from day one, as well as reward early adopters right out of the gate.

Since Nintendo has been very open to this with the 3DS (excitebike 3d, Four Swords, Kid Icarus 3D, all the ambassador games... I didn't pay a single cent for those) I guess they could be offering something similar to this for the WiiU start right away.

For Nintnendo it's imperative that people connect their devices. 3DS was a good step in that regard. And with WiiU they'll have to show that they are dead serious about offering not just a me too online service but that they are willing to support this service from the get go with the dedication it deserves.

That's why I am very positive about the eshop as well. Unlike WiiWare or DSiWare, Nintendo is showing active interest in growing the plattform by offering free games on promotions, implementing features that are demanded by customers etc.

I guess when the WiiU releases, Nintendo will switch completely to an account based system, even on 3DS. cross plat. games like the new SSB will need a unified account system to fully work.
 
7Mbps?!

Poor Cooky :/
E3 is going to rape your modem with all those pics getting posted :lol

I know. D:
Is there anyway to optimize it at all? (I should nag Mum to go down to the electronics store, although she's technologically illiterate, so she wouldn't get a thing.) to get a new setup.
 
I know. D:
Is there anyway to optimize it at all? (I should nag Mum to go down to the electronics store, although she's technologically illiterate, so she wouldn't get a thing.) to get a new setup.

Only possibility is to call your provider and ask if they got any better offers with reasonable prices. Inform youself about all provider in your area.
But don't worry: at least all the avatars will get disabled at E3, so that will help very much.
 
Only possibility is to call your provider and ask if they got any better offers with reasonable prices. Inform youself about all provider in your area.
But don't worry: at least all the avatars will get disabled at E3, so that will help very much.

I haven't had much of a problem with anything in the past to be honest, it's when it comes to physically downloading it's a bitch. Definitely going to look into a new setup though.
 
the Wii U absolute silence in terms of big support starts to remind me about equivalent Vita absolute silence about big support
 
the Wii U absolute silence in terms of big support starts to remind me about equivalent Vita absolute silence about big support

Not the same; Nintendo doesn't allow anybody to talk about it. It seems like they want do set the world on fire at E3 :lol
 
the Wii U absolute silence in terms of big support starts to remind me about equivalent Vita absolute silence about big support

Vita = Already out and floundering

Wii U = Not even close to being out and at the very least has Nintendo franchises to back it up

On the one hand, we have a company (Sony) who still doesn't get it. The PSP succeeded in spite of them, and yet, they are doing the same thing (only worse) with the Vita.

On the other, we have a company (Nintendo) who is being far more aggressive than they have ever been in not only securing support, but getting their own franchises to be as big as possible.
 
Vita = Already out and floundering

Wii U = Not even close to being out and at the very least has Nintendo franchises to back it up

On the one hand, we have a company (Sony) who still doesn't get it. The PSP succeeded in spite of them, and yet, they are doing the same thing (only worse) with the Vita.

On the other, we have a company (Nintendo) who is being far more aggressive than they have ever been in not only securing support, but getting their own franchises to be as big as possible.

Desperate Nintendo is best Nintendo.
 
Desperate Nintendo is best Nintendo.

It's not even that, though.
All this was put into play long ago when Nintendo read the market and knew that they couldn't win with something like the Wii again.

The 3DS having a slow start might have sped up a few things, but it didn't secure third party games like MH or Kingdom Hearts, and it certainly didn't give us anything from Nintendo besides a price cut and some GBA games.

This was purely Iwata, in 2010 or so, saying "We have to reach out to third parties in a way we never have before."

While Sony, I can only assume, figured they'd get that support simply because of who they are.
 
After the cold reaction after last E3, they are probably feeling worried.

Everything they are doing right now doesn't seem desperate at all, those times are over. They are as aggressive as never before, getting guys from Crytek and are in talks with important third party developers; getting middle ware, doing Nintendo Direct, announcing big games like NSMB for 3DS etc.

They ate a bucket of shit with the 3DS and never want to eat shit again - there you have it, aggressive Nintendo.
 
It's now roughly ~9 months since last E3 and ~3 months till next E3.

Amazing how time flies in a way (also amazing how slow it can move in another way!)
 
It's not even that, though.
All this was put into play long ago when Nintendo read the market and knew that they couldn't win with something like the Wii again.

The 3DS having a slow start might have sped up a few things, but it didn't secure third party games like MH or Kingdom Hearts, and it certainly didn't give us anything from Nintendo besides a price cut and some GBA games.

This was purely Iwata, in 2010 or so, saying "We have to reach out to third parties in a way we never have before."

While Sony, I can only assume, figured they'd get that support simply because of who they are.

Yeah, if you look it that way, they basically are a lazy student, who thinks that he's better than others. Nintendo is the one that is really trying. I think that the Wii U is really going to blow a lot of people away, not in terms of graphics and maybe even not in terms of innovative ways to play your games, but it's also about the network and other types of entertainment, besides video games. Everything distributed online and available in the cloud, not with fancy BluRay-Disc players or huge hard drives.
 
Yeah, if you look it that way, they basically are a lazy student, who thinks that he's better than others. Nintendo is the one that is really trying. I think that the Wii U is really going to blow a lot of people away, not in terms of graphics and maybe even not in terms of innovative ways to play your games, but it's also about the network and other types of entertainment, besides video games. Everything distributed online and available in the cloud, not with fancy BluRay-Disc players or huge hard drives.

As someone who has a very small monthly bandwith cap (25gb/month), I would actually prefer everything not be stored on a cloud. I'd take a huge hard-drive instead.
 
Except that Nintendo didn't say anything about Mario on Wii U, while they did say they were going to make a Zelda and that it wouldn't take 5 years this time.

Koizumi stated his section is working on technologies for the Mario HD. Not too different than how Aonuma spoke of his same section.
 
Rösti;35848697 said:
While it's not that relevant to compare PC system requirements with theoretical Wii U specifications, Nintendo perhaps has had the guidelines for Unreal Engine 3 as a focal point when developing the system. These requirements are:

Quote:
Minimum PC Hardware Requirements for Developers

Windows XP SP3 (32-bit only) with DirectX 9.0c
2GHz or better CPU
2+ GB RAM
A graphics card with Shader Model 3.0 support, such as nVidia GeForce 7800

NOTE: Windows 7 64bit is currently the mainstream development environment.

Recommended PC Hardware Specs for Developers

Windows 7 64-bit
2.0+ GHz multi-core processor
8 GB System RAM
NVIDIA 8000 series or higher graphics card
Plenty of HDD space

PC Hardware Spec Used by Epic Games

HW Spec for Epic's Programmers

Lenovo ThinkStation D20 (Model 4158-C95)
Windows 7 64-bit
Dual Quad-Core Xeon Nehalem Processors (3.17GHz)
24 GB DDR3 RAM
nVidia GeForce GTX 285 (1 GB DDR3)
3x500 GB Hard Drives (1x OS Drive, 2x Data Drives in a RAID 0 configuration)

HW Spec for Epic's Level Designers

Dell Precision Workstation T7400
Windows 7 64-bit
Dual Quad-Core Xeon Processors (3.0GHz)
16 GB DDR2 RAM
nVidia GeForce GTX 285 (1 GB DDR3)
3x500 GB Hard Drives (1x OS Drive, 2x Data Drives in a RAID 0 configuration)

HW Spec for Epic's Artists (same specs as L.D.)

Dell Precision Workstation T7400
Windows 7 64-bit
Dual Quad-Core Xeon Processors (3.0GHz)
16 GB DDR2 RAM
nVidia GeForce GTX 285 (1 GB DDR3)
3x500 GB Hard Drives (1x OS Drive, 2x Data Drives in a RAID 0 configuration)

HW Spec for Epic's Testers

Custom built PC's with
Windows 7 64-bit
Intel Core2Extreme Quad Core Processor - Q6800 - 2.93 GHz
4 GB DDR2 RAM
nVidia GeForce 8800 (768 MB GDDR3)
1x320 GB Hard Drive (OS Drive), 1x500 GB Hard Drive (Data Drive)


HW Spec for Swarm Farm Servers

IBM BladeCenter HS22 [7870AC1] (14 Nodes)
Spec for one node:
Dual Quad Core Xeon Processors (2.53 GHz)
24 GB DDR3 RAM
73GB SAS Drive

Source: http://udn.epicgames.com/Three/UE3MinSpecs.html

As mentioned in another thread, what Stephen Totilo of Kotaku wrote:



I can see Nintendo at first vouching more for Unreal Engine 3 than its successor, as many developers know how to use this engine, and if they have current projects utilizing it, then it bodes well for ports of various kinds. Though for Nintendo to actually not support Unreal Engine 4 would be an unwise decision, as that engine will most likely be, as others have suggested, the most licensed engine next generation. And once developers start to jump shift in 2013-2014, who would want to stick around with eventually arbitrary tools just to have their games for Wii U as well?

Nice post!!

Edit: (cos my day at work seem to long and I did a mistake)

Ok if you take a custum build PC (bold part) for testers use it has 4GB RAM running UE3 Games
PS3/X360 have 512MB RAM running UE3. (1/8 th of it)

If you take a custum build PC (bold part) for testers use it would have 8GB RAM running UE4 Games (that should be the case)
Then simple math is telling us what???
WiiU/PS4/X720 will need to have a minimum of 2GB RAM for running UE4. (1/4 th of it)

So if Nintendo is doing everything to not only double the RAM of the HD twins and it looks like it then it should be fine running UE4

2GB -> WiiU ... sounds like I have heard that ...haha

UE4 on WiiU = confirmed :)))
 
Anyone else expecting lines out the wazoo for the Wii U demo stations this year? Stampedes from the opening of the doors?

I'd love to see a repeat of '06. YouTube videos lasting several minutes long, where the filming crew starts at the demo station and takes all of that time to walk to the end of the line. It'd be hysterical to see history repeat.. all part of Nintendo establishing buzz about their new console.

I also wonder what kind of ad campaign they have up their sleeves. "Wii Would Like to Play" is going to be tough to beat.
 
Nice post!!

Ok if you take a custum build PC (bold part) for testers use it has 4GB RAM running UE3 Games
PS3/X360 have 512MB RAM running UE3. (1/4 th of it)

Wait a sec: 512MB * 4 = 2048MB and not 4096MB

EDIT: Oh wow, Splinter Cell would be fucking amazing! *.* You could do so much with the uPad, the gimmicky stuff would really work in a game like that. Solving puzzles via the touchscreen, moving the uPad around for all the different cameras. Sending a drone somewhere and watching a live feed of the stuff it's recording o the bottom screen,...
 
You guys are right about my previous post "Wii U = Vita", it was just some sort of feeling, not a prevision.
That said, the main difference is probably about first party support, in any case. I mean: also the Wii was "more or less" only first party-based and it was able to sell a lot of HW and SW...
 
Even with the NDA, how have their not been more leaks about games. Why are the guys on the inside not ratting out the games they are working on to their friends.
 
An interview from CVG of Epic's Mark Rein about the next gen console performances, their interaction with manufacturers to push them in the hardware department, etc.

Not really fresh news, Rein stated that multiple times, but it's still a reminder and worth a quick read.

Its catch-phrase "If next-gen consoles aren't bleeding edge, Apple will beat them" lack of wisdom, but we could hope that Epic has a convenient & easy & usable channel (through NOA, US Big N studios, Epic Games Japan, etc.) to apply this kind of pressure to Nintendo, it's not too late.

Epic Games has revealed it's "constantly pushing" platform holders to make their next-generation consoles as advanced as possible.

Meeting with Epic's always well-spoken VP Mark Rein at GDC this week, CVG highlighted the growing concern among gamers that next-gen consoles could turn out to be technically underwhelming - especially with Wii U's reportedly modest specs and the next Xbox rumoured to be utilising a year-old graphics card.

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The affable Unreal Engine exec assured us that, just like it did with Gears of War and the Xbox 360, it's "constantly pushing" platform holders with stunning demonstrations like its Samaritan demo, in an attempt to persuade them to make their next-gen platforms as "bleeding edge" as possible.

"Don't worry. We are absolutely every day [pushing platform holders]," Rein told CVG. "This is why we did Samaritan and why we're doing a really high-end demo in the room here. We really are pushing these guys, because if they don't, Apple will go right past them."

In 2006 Rein revealed Epic cost Microsoft $1 billion with an impressive Gears of War prototype, which persuaded the platform holder it should include increased 512MB of RAM inside the Xbox 360.

In a move that harks back to the persuasive Gears demo, Rein called Epic's Samarian demo its "love letter" to hardware manufacturers, emphasising the studio's passion for high-end gaming.

"We really like the big screen, home console experience and we really like iPad gaming. We like all these gaming experiences and we don't think consumers want them to go away.

"The only way they're going to go away is if they don't stay true to what they are. The console gaming experience is about delivering something that's way out past the bleeding edge and subsidising it through the software royalty model - just like Apple does with the phones. It's not that much different."

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He added: "That's the console gaming model, and if you don't do that - if you don't stretch just far enough, you don't just have enough of a difference to make people want to take the leap with you... it all falls down.

"Now, I don't think that's going to happen - I think the console guys are going to blow us all away. But as you say, we're on them.

"There's no end in sight for what we can do with unlimited technology. So we're always going to be pushing and I'm sure we'll be pushing for more than is possible to give. But yes, we feel that's kind of our duty. That's what Epic is here for.

"Not everybody in the games business is going to use our technology and that's OK. But if we can help the games business as a whole then we help the people that use our technology, we help ourselves, we help consumers.

"So for us that's something that we work very, very hard on. That's something that I'm personally involved in. [Epic founder] Tim Sweeney is really the guy at the front of the ship, but I'm rowing right behind him. We're constantly contacting these guys and constantly pushing them."

Epic showcased its next-gen Unreal Engine 4 demo behind closed doors at GDC, adding that it hopes to showcase the tech publicly later in 2012.
 
Even with the NDA, how have their not been more leaks about games. Why are the guys on the inside not ratting out the games they are working on to their friends.

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An interview from CVG of Epic's Mark Rein about the next gen console performances, their interaction with manufacturers to push them in the hardware department, etc.

Not really fresh news, Rein stated that multiple times, but it's still a reminder and worth a quick read.

Its catch-phrase "If next-gen consoles aren't bleeding edge, Apple will beat them" lack of wisdom, but we could hope that Epic has a convenient & easy & usable channel (through NOA, US Big N studios, Epic Games Japan, etc.) to apply this kind of pressure to Nintendo, it's not too late.

I wouldn't doubt they already are. Like you said before, Nintendo was trying to stabilize "a popular engine" to run on the WiiU's V5 dev kit. I still think it's the cryengine 3, though I am aware that even if right, you can't tell me. Still, I feel that Epic is who is pushing Nintendo do even attempt that, Nintendo in the past, wouldn't give a shit about game engines from 3rd parties. So someone is pushing them.
 
An interview from CVG of Epic's Mark Rein about the next gen console performances, their interaction with manufacturers to push them in the hardware department, etc.

Not really fresh news, Rein stated that multiple times, but it's still a reminder and worth a quick read.

Its catch-phrase "If next-gen consoles aren't bleeding edge, Apple will beat them" lack of wisdom, but we could hope that Epic has a convenient & easy & usable channel (through NOA, US Big N studios, Epic Games Japan, etc.) to apply this kind of pressure to Nintendo, it's not too late.

Wouldn't it be good if they try to co-operate with Epic and do something together, just to increase their image with the core gamers. A Nintendo game with the technical part done by Epic. There would obviously be a few people saying that Nintendo isn't able to make good looking games themselves(tse), but the majority of people would be interested. Retro Studios + Epic + Miyamoto=Win.
 
Even with the NDA, how have their not been more leaks about games. Why are the guys on the inside not ratting out the games they are working on to their friends.

i don't get why u guys won't try to understand this. this isn't new. i mean is this your first Nintendo console your following? the Wii was the same. the GC was the same. nothing is new here people, we have less then 3 months left for the love of god.
 
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