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You can play with four controllers on the PS3/360, right?
Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes
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Mihael Mello Keehl
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lol stop it lol...anyways when do you guys think we'll be able to preorder this badboy..I will not go through what I did with the Wii waking up early as fuck and standing in lines only for stores to be like we only have X amount of Wiis.NO!Very depressing lol..
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look forwards to Halo 4, Halo 5, Halo DLC, Halo Side story, Halo cartoon, Halo mugs, Halo avatar, Halo books
ps its the same game you shoot things that what you excited to hear about the same game you be playing with new maps and hats
Agent Unknown
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HylianTom said:
Ah, I'm intrigued by this idea.
If the Wii is any indication (and it may or may not be), it'll be about a month before Launch Day. Preorders for the Wii at GameStop and EBGames were on Friday, October 13th - and for many folks (fair warning here, hehe..) it still involved waiting in lines for at least several hours.
Post some of your favourite game series and I can rip on them for stupid bullshit reasons too.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Nooooooo.jpg but seriously though If I know I can preorder and get one for sure I wouldnt mind..standing in line trying to get lucky is what was doing me in lol..I remember going to 4 stores like mid to christmas december and just getting fucked at all of them..the last one a gamestop I was 1 behind from getting one.It hurted me.
IrishNinja
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see, i know you save a bit on the taxes, but...i gotta be in the mob, man!
i remember i was first in line for gamecube at TRU, but i was kinda in bad shape after an accident, so i was on crutches. motherfuckers actually knocked me over once the doors opened...i lost a few spots, but i tripped both of them with my other crutch! shit was satisfying, and really, you miss little moments of humanity like that staying home and ordering.
True. But there was a market in the Wii's audience. Early generation sales of hardcore games on the Wii are solid proof that this more traditional audience was there, waiting for good core games - and third-party developers ignored the presence of that audience.
What did many Nintendo fans do in response? We collectively rewarded companies for that behaviour. Instead, we should have said, "nope. You're not getting my money this time. I'll play something else." There are a lot of Nintendo fans out there who buy games. Imagine what would have happened to the bottom lines for some of these companies had those Nintendo fans all stood up and said, "NO. Bring something good to the Nintendo platform - or you don't get our money. It's a pretty smple request."
I suspect that the NeoGAF forum topic of "Studios Closed Since 2006" would be a bit more grim if we had stuck to our guns and voted with our wallets. But the message to third parties would have been crystal clear.
Stuff like Extraction still pisses me off to this day. Resident Evil rail shooters. Ubsoft's line of games ending with a 'z.' I'm the type to hold a grudge, but I can forgive if there's sustained effort to win back our enthusiasm with good gameS.
shadyspace
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I have no idea whether or not it will be as difficult to get a Wii U as it was to get a Wii. I change my mind on the matter by the day.
Tarin02543
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This pic is so nineties.
I have been trying to decipher your post but I have failed to do so.
rebranding's done, tell a friend!
Would the average Nintendo fan even know who wu tang is?
It was really interesting when they asked Namco if they have anything in development for Wii U, Namco said that they just couldn't talk about it right now (obviously sounds like they are working on Wii U) I think Nintendo wants Sony and Microsoft to expect a really lame 3rd party showing for Wii U, and then prove them wrong, what I find most interesting though is that Shane had said that western studios are all pretty much on board but that they haven't heard much from the Japanese developers.
We have been assuming that Nintendo will get the Japanese developers rather easily, and one of the people in the video said right afterwards that they believe that the Japanese developers are simply staying quiet for Nintendo... That makes sense to me, especially with Namco's reply, that is exactly how it sounds: "are you working on any Wii U games?" "sorry, we can't talk about it."
This could be the E3 that stuns the industry, Nintendo taking not only the console lead but third parties all have a ticket.
My thing is this:
I take off a whole week for Launch Day. Always do.
If I were to order online, I'd have to wait for it to arrive by UPS. Knowing UPS' typical delivery pattern, I usually get my packages between 4PM and 8PM. And they have been very sketchy on "Same Day Delivery" - sometimes it doesn't live-up to its name.
So, going with best-case scenario with UPS, I'm playing my new system sometime around 4PM. That's nearly a whole day of vacation time wasted with me bouncing off the walls, peeking through the peephole, reading about happy people on NeoGAF playing with their favorite new system, not wanting to go to the bathroom for fear of missing a knock at the door, etc. Not cool.
With a good preorder and a store that's doing a midnight launch, I'm home by 1AM, setting-up my system, choosing an online screenname (if we have to), etc. Party time starts much earlier than with the UPS scenario. And for the weeks going up to Launch Day, I can relax and not worry about whether I'll actually get one, preorder receipt safely locked-away in my home's safe.
So I'll always intend on the brick-and-mortar Launch Day festivities.
Funny- I do Amazon or eBay for 90% of my gaming purchases, but this is the one notable exception.
This is what I'm thinking as well. Plus you would think that it's easier for the media to get insider info from Western devs as opposed to Japanese devs. E3 is going to be epic this year.
Agent Unknown
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Like HylianTom I'm definitely leaning towards doing a midnight launch and getting a head start on enjoying the system. That may mean pre-ordering at Walmart but so be it (assuming they do pre-orders, do they?)
Hm might get a Wii U at launch just to ensure I get the NiN handle I want.
Not sure, but Walmart would be the last place I go. It's such a mess for these sort of events. If you have a Target nearby you're better off. I don't think Walmart or Target do preorders for consoles.
Your best bet would be Gamestop or Bestbuy (if it's still alive lol) at this point.
Not sure, but Walmart would be the last place I go. It's such a mess for these sort of events. If you have a Target nearby you're better off. I don't think Walmart or Target do preorders for consoles.
Your best bet would be Gamestop or Bestbuy (if it's still alive lol) at this point.
HT I both applaud your passion and worry for your sanity!
IrishNinja
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if not, it's a fine time to educate the masses on the 36 chambers nahmean
a whole week, huh? heh...ill prolly take the next day off though for sure. i get what you're saying too, as well as not worrying about how many times your system got dropped/etc.
it's like certain films: i don't like big crowded theaters most times either, but day 1 avengers for the fanboy hype is kinda part of the experience. plus, you know...midnight launch WU = mad streetpases!
jump_button
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I play games not series Ill never just buy a game just for being the next one eg "Res evil 4" did't touch 5
Shooter's are in same book as Sport and Racing genres they not move on at all and they just kick them out every year just to pay the bills with out trying, what do you need? a Room a gun and something to kill
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Yea walmart is one of those stand in line first or get lucky type stores.
Yah, I understood your bullshit reason the first time.
Still waiting for you to name some games. Or were you just drive-by trolling?
Thanks! If I am going insane, at least I'm enjoying it, haha!HT I both applaud your passion and worry for your sanity!
Truth be told, I'd be ecstatic if most of Nintendo's third-party support came from Japan. At the moment, they're my only realistic hope for Nintendo seeing any sort of measurable improvement in this arena. And thankfully, the vast, vast majority of my games come from there.
Many - not all - Western developers seem to be in some sort of middleschool/highscool/fratboy dudebro tunnelvision mode where Nintendo is still kiddy and everything needs blood and/or tits and/or guns - and if you can't see the individually-rendered hairs on a character's aereolae swaying along to the precise direction of the breeze, then the game will SUCK.. don't bother making it, dude!
Then, I see these little skateboarders on the MTV, and maybe I'm being a grumpy old man or something here (?!), but I find myself saying, "oh look.. there's the target audience. How adorable. I wonder when their mommies are picking them up from the skatepark." Which, intellectually I know isn't true, but damn if it doesn't seem that way sometimes.
So yeah. Japanese developers FTW. I love love love and am obsessed by certain Western-developed games, but the industry and media here almost feels like high school: "dude, you can't be seen in public with Nintendo, man! That's nuts! Your coolness stock will plummet and the in-crowd won't invite you to any of their parties! Stay away, bro!"
jump_button
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Is this a Halo thread? No, Are you trolling Wii U thread maybe, Should I help you go off topic in here? No
Mihael Mello Keehl
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c'mon you guys..I dont wanna read this
:lol
You seemed pretty eager to give us your two-cents before, why not continue the discussion?
I think someone's just upset they're getting called out on a drive-by.
Edit: And for the record, I have a fairly neutral opinion on Halo anyways. Guess I shouldn't be such a sucker for troll-bait.
jump_button
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To be far I was talking about all FPS as well as Sport and Racing genres that a long drive-by, You guy are being being defensive about Halo. I dont see why any one would be excited for a new FPS at E3
Ohhhh shit. My bad. Crucify me, for rejecting a flimsy and hyperbolic assertion.
Ah yes I forgot....
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Dreamwriter
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Deal, like they always have. With the 3DS, Nintendo tried to play nice with the third parties by delaying their big first party AAA games until after the launch window. That failed. Even with a decently solid lineup in the first few months, there just wasn't anything to really draw the gamers, and without the gamers, third party support dried up - games were canceled or delayed, publishers stopped hiring developers to make 3DS games, some big developers got out of the handheld business entirely. Even dropping the price didn't really help, until Nintendo had released Zelda, Mario, and Mario Kart. The combination of those games, however, revived system sales to a huge extent.
This is the exact tactic that Nintendo said they were going to change, they now know they need to launch with big guns to get a good core audience and not lose momentum. Allowing third parties free reign at the start with no real first-party competition, actually hurts third parties more than having to compete with a launch Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kart...
Wu-Tang Clan presents Chess Boxing for Wii U!
Take control of your Mii or favorite rapper and see if you can handle the 36 Chambers of Brain and Pain. Are you smart and strong enough to defeat The RZA to become the champion*? Sit down and relax your mind for a round of chess on the touch screen, but be prepared to get up and fight with the Wii remote and nunchuk, and then calm your nerves again as you plan out your chess strategy.
*The ghost of ODB will be the Akuma of the game, the secret true last boss.
Well that is what I found most interesting, Namco didn't say No, they would have if they weren't working on anything, they could of said something like "not at this time" or whatever, but then again, Namco and Nintendo are pretty close if my memory serves me right, Nintendo even has some stock in the company, and just hired one of their talents that fell from Sega originally, and moved him to NST, so I am pretty sure Japanese devs are keeping tight lipped because Nintendo wants them to.
As for western devs, well I think all the major ones will be there... EA is on everything, Ubisoft already has it's biggest franchise on the Wii U (AC3) and I don't see Capcom not porting over RE6, heck they might bring RE5 over... I think Nintendo has a lot to prove, but I think they also have a lot to show at E3 that will change a lot of peoples perceptions of the company... If I could ask for anything on Wii U, it would be GTA5 to be there at E3, that would be a big thing IMO.
IrishNinja
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^all of my moniez
i was gonna talk it up some more, but you just made me realize: chess boxing is a real thing. holy shit, i have to step up my game 2 in arts now.
Precisely. And Nintendo most likely wants to sell as many Wii Us as possible before the launching of the 720 or the PS4. Gotta get that head-start on userbase, the mindshare, the momentum.. whatever buzzword terms you want me to use. The best, most surefire way is to put some truly big first-party gems on store shelves - gotta tempt people!
Third parties will have to, like you say, deal. Make a good game - and advertise it! Pretty damn simple. If the game fails in the marketplace, they have no one but themselves to blame. I've grown very tired of them not wanting to take any responsibility for their games not selling well.
And to the gentlemen sniping at each other.. please stop? I hate to see y'all fighting.
Here's something to make everyone a bit cheerier: a link to the E3 2006 Nintendo Conference Thread. You can feel the ultra-thick tension before and as it begins.. people were soooo nervous. Coming off of the GameCube's unimpressive ~20 million sales, a lot of folks were quite worried about Nintendo's future. A motion-controller console named "Wii?" That wasn't very powerful under the hood? The odds didn't seem to be in Nintendo's favor, did they?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98556
Yeah I only knew about it cause I saw a segment on TV on it once. Shit it'd actually be fun if there was a decent enough user base for local and online multiplayer.
I like boxing games. I love playing chess. Wu-Tang can make it happen!
TOGETHER AT LAST!
Edit - RZA came out with an iOS chess app recently, he can step it up to the next level!
I don't have the slightest bit of interest in GTA, but I also recognize how important a title it is. Many core gamers use it as a litmus test of-sorts, so Nintendo getting that game into the system's library would be quite a coup. I could see some haters howling with indignation if that were to happen.
As far as Japanese developers are concerned, I have some reason to hope. Square-Enix brought a lot of support to the Wii (although I'd still love to see a few of their PS360 titles brought over). And as far as Namco goes, if they can give us one or two Symphonia-level games through the life of the system, I'd be incredibly, absolutely pleased with them. All in all, I think that Japanese developers won't be so presumptuous with putting most of their eggs in the Sony console basket. I suspect they'll hedge their bets a bit more this time around - which will be a considerable improvement from this time around.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Thankyou for that linkPrecisely. And Nintendo most likely wants to sell as many Wii Us as possible before the launching of the 720 or the PS4. Gotta get that head-start on userbase, the mindshare, the momentum.. whatever buzzword terms you want me to use. The best, most surefire way is to put some truly big first-party gems on store shelves - gotta tempt people!
Third parties will have to, like you say, deal. Make a good game - and advertise it! Pretty damn simple. If the game fails in the marketplace, they have no one but themselves to blame. I've grown very tired of them not wanting to take any responsibility for their games not selling well.
And to the gentlemen sniping at each other.. please stop? I hate to see y'all fighting.
Here's something to make everyone a bit cheerier: a link to the E3 2006 Nintendo Conference Thread. You can feel the ultra-thick tension before and as it begins.. people were soooo nervous. Coming off of the GameCube's unimpressive ~20 million sales, a lot of folks were quite worried about Nintendo's future. A motion-controller console named "Wii?" That wasn't very powerful under the hood? The odds didn't seem to be in Nintendo's favor, did they?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98556
Thankyou for that link
No prob - my pleasure!
And here's 2007's thread. Remarkably short.. but it's there. That was the year of the Wii Fit reveal, and Mario Galaxy was a hot topic. I'll leave this one with you guys and then turn in for beddy-bye. Cheers!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170612
IrishNinja
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yeah, this whole aside reminds me: did you know the only PS1 game my 60 GB PS3 won't play is Wu-Tang: Shaolin Style? locks up on character select screen, ive tried several copies. and of course sony ignores all my letters
still mad this hasn't come to android yet!
still mad this hasn't come to android yet!
Mihael Mello Keehl
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The amount of people wanting pikmin 3 back then makes me kinda sad it didnt come to Wii hopefully they really enjoy it on Wii-U.
Precisely. And Nintendo most likely wants to sell as many Wii Us as possible before the launching of the 720 or the PS4. Gotta get that head-start on userbase, the mindshare, the momentum.. whatever buzzword terms you want me to use. The best, most surefire way is to put some truly big first-party gems on store shelves - gotta tempt people!
Third parties will have to, like you say, deal. Make a good game - and advertise it! Pretty damn simple. If the game fails in the marketplace, they have no one but themselves to blame. I've grown very tired of them not wanting to take any responsibility for their games not selling well.
And to the gentlemen sniping at each other.. please stop? I hate to see y'all fighting.
Here's something to make everyone a bit cheerier: a link to the E3 2006 Nintendo Conference Thread. You can feel the ultra-thick tension before and as it begins.. people were soooo nervous. Coming off of the GameCube's unimpressive ~20 million sales, a lot of folks were quite worried about Nintendo's future. A motion-controller console named "Wii?" That wasn't very powerful under the hood? The odds didn't seem to be in Nintendo's favor, did they?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98556
i agree. i'm sick of the excuses from 3rd parties. i normally take Nintendo's side with things but i also know that they aren't perfect. so i know that a lot of things have happened on their side of the fence before. however, this situation with 3rd parties throwing every excuse out there left and right is pathetic. the big dogs (Capcom, Konami, Square) back in the day worked their butts off, now look at them. Konami doesn't even seem like the same company anymore.
as far as the western ones, it seems the biggest crybabies are these indy developers. u guys may not agree but i don't care what kind of trouble you have with the console your developing for, it's called hardwork, how about doing some? i don't know the troubles of game development but in comparison to what was done back in the day and the few good efforts nowadays, i know it can be done. So stop whining a complaining and acting like a bunch of spoiled brats and do some freakin work. if not, then shut up and get out of gaming.
Agent Unknown said:
My computer isn't beefy enough to handle Dolphin much at all, but my understanding is that even higher end computers have trouble with many games. That doesn't mean that Nintendo themselves couldn't jump into the ROMs themselves, though, and make necessary adjustments to the rom and emulator to get a perfect result on a per-game basis.
My prediction? We'll see certain core games like Galaxy 1 and 2 come out as $30 disc games in HD, much like the "New Play Control" series or whatever it was called (where they shoehorned Wii controls on Pikmin, Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, etc.). Mario's star pointer would have to be either touch screen or analog stick (though tilting the tablet I guess is possible), hopefully achievements are added (or at least the console recognizes a complete game).
My hope would be to see some other, older Gamecube classics like Prime 1, Wind Waker, Sunshine, and F Zero get the same 720p+ widescreen treatment. I'm guessing they'll do discs to help software droughts but they might try discs & digital. The difference this time is that unlike "new play control," people are actually gonna be excited to buy the same thing this time.
Dreamwriter said:
The core problem with using the Wii name is that the public is soon going to realize that not only isn't the U the same concept, it's a strategy in a completely different direction. The Wii was simple to entice casuals - a controller that looks like a tv remote, few buttons, motion control.
But the Wii U? Completely the opposite of simple. One person gets a multi-button touch screen tablet, while the others use Wii remotes with a completely different setup. What? I'm guessing in most cases, the classic controller is going to be used for multiplayer just for the sake of control scheme consistency. Along with the problem of "if every game streams, then every game has to compensate for any touch screen innovations." For the soccer mom, she's going to think "this is too much for me!" But the video where they were showing the tablet on a dining room table playing checkers and such could still draw some in.
I do expect a MotionPlus (perhaps updated in accuracy or at least a rebranded look) and (maybe) a nunchuck to be bundled in every box along with the tablet. Probably with the new Wii Sports -- which will be the baseball and golf demos we saw along with maybe tennis and bowling. $299 or bust.
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