Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes
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Agreed. If Nintendo fucks up Japanese 3rd party support, I would be relatively surprised.
-Pyromaniac-
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I'm with DragonKnight. Honestly I wouldn't mind if next-generation there was no such thing as a third party exclusive. Everything goes on everything no matter what. Leave the differentiation competition up to the manufacturers themselves, and their in-house studios and online services and all that jazz.
Nah, because if he did, you would see that stuff on every blog. This is how we roll in this thread, and almost every Nintendo blog or website is watchin'. 8)
GameplayWhore
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The last couple bits of information he disseminated were spontaneous and not pre-announced. Give him some credit.
He said either today or tomorrow though in the past every time he's said "today or tomorrow" he usually opts for giving his information earlier than later.
Gaf --> interne...blah blah blah.
What information?
Yeah, but shouldn't be doing this at all. If he wasn't to split things up to keep the thread alive, fine. I'd do the same to a degree. I just don't like him letting this fame go to his head.
It all comes down to if a game benefits from pointer controls. I think Activision will probably put pointer controls into BlOps2, just because fans were incredibly happy and receptive to it in the CoD Wii title. And that will set the tone for the Wiimote continuing to be a viable control method. The main point of the Upad is that now developers don't have to feel PRESSURED into using it, they can use it in titles where there's a legitimate gain for using it.
Like, if Namco wanted to do a Time Crisis on WiiU, do you think they'll use the PAD for controls? FUCK NO. So again, it's all about where it fits best.
I third this. I would prefer to have one console going forward. Obviously, the Wii did not get the big third party HD twins multiplatform games. Having the Wii and 360 was fine, but I like consolidation and I don't need 2-3 consoles plugged into my entertainment center.
If I could get all the big third party games that interest me, plus all the wonderful Nintendo exclusives, plus a competent online system that allows me to easily play with my friends... Gaming nirvana for me.
eh, it really hasn't gone to his head. his disposition has remained unchanged since the first day he posted. he's just very eccentric and flashy which I guess frustrates most people in this thread who constantly hunger for information.
If Nintendo pulls ahead as the obvious market leader in Japan, you will see the same thing you saw with the PS2: de-facto exclusivity.
boyshine
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Oh, there will be exclusives from third parties. Just look at the Wii launch line-up. The quality was so-so, but there was a lot of exclusives. And with Wii U theyre not limited by hardware, and it doesnt have controllers that require a brand new control scheme. Traditional dual analog + touch screen is not going to be trial by error in the same way motion+IR was.
GameplayWhore
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Hrmm assuming that I recorded it properly:
#8928, IdeaMan notes that third party devs are not aware of a Nintendo-branded hard drive as of mid-April
And possibly also unannounced was:
#6597, IdeaMan: not powerful enough to render to TV and two DRCs at max settings
Both the above are "well, duh" nuggets. But I think that neither were reported in the "I will tell you something soon!" style.
My general philosophy here is that none of this is really serious business. I mean he's having fun talking to people about fun.
He forgot to mention that Nintendo is working on a new peripheral for Wii U that will be included with a game that I can't name yet without getting in trouble. *eye roll*
MadOdorMachine
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Konami were rumored to be making a Contra game for Wii U or 3DS but we haven't heard anything since. I get the feeling Castlevania, MGR:R and MGS5 won't be making it though. It's disappointing, but as I was trying to point out earlier. The reason Epic Mickey 2 & Tomb Raider aren't making it to Wii U is because they were too far into development to port it over. Now take into account that Resident Evil 6 probably started development around the same time and that it will likely make it to Wii U at a later date has me cautiously optimistic. Then there's the problem that Durango & Orbius will be significantly more powerful leaving Wii U in the dust and I get let down again. Thus repeats the cycle. I should just stop posting until E3.
Funny thing is, being European and having no idea that a sequel to Excite Truck was even made at the time, I made a thread on another forum ages back musing over ideas for an "Excite Racer" game like what you've described. Add in the ability to play your own music and lots of fun ideas and I'm game. I prefer unrealistic racing games to realistic ones any day and it's nice to have some alternatives to Mario Kart.
-Pyromaniac-
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I'm not saying it won't be in games though, like your COD example, I'm saying it'll be a secondary option for control only when devs choose to implement it. Only time I see it being the primary method is for some random party game or WiiU sports or something.
I must have missed this. What type of info does he say he has?
AceBandage
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Informative Info.
GameplayWhore
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I don't believe he's said.
I hear that that's the best kind of info there is.
I would be shocked if Castlevania isn't on 3DS and if it isn't announced by or at E3. There was a rumor it was going to be at the pre-TGS 3DS conference, but it didn't surface. (I kinda hope its closer to 64 than 2D metroidvania...)
My hope for RE6 has dwindled a lot over the last month. I'm sure they'll be a late port, but I was hoping it would be at or near launch on Wii U :-(
he's posted quite a bit of information over the past couple of threads but it's not as if he's verified or anything. what I can tell you which should aid in his defense is that he's spoken with a verified dev on here who has actually worked with the console and that poster believes his legitimacy so that should count for something
DragonKnight
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No more bullshit third party support. Seriously
Well at least that is a tick in the right direction. And I guess he can't go into to much detail for the risk of being murdered in his sleep.
DragonKnight
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You just summed up my fears
Yeah, good point, thanks. And not going to Walmart = not supporting an evil corporation and less chance of me getting robbed of my system in the parking lot.Best Buy lines are awful too. So do both Target and Gamestop make an exception and do midnight launches? Sorry if this sounds ignorant but one of the few times I've bought something game related at midnight was SMG 2.
I think only Gamestop might. When I went to get the Wii at Target it was a morning launch but it was pretty civil. I usually go to Gamestop for midnight game launches so I haven't experience a console launch with them myself.
I wouldn't worry about it until after E3. I think Japanese developers tend to keep their mouths tightly sealed because of Nintendo.
well he's apparently an ex journalist so he's likely relying on old business relationships to get this information. I'm assuming because he's no longer that deep in the industry these sources would not be easily replaceable if their trust in him were to be broken.
GameplayWhore
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He has certainly posted more concrete things than what I posted above, but his stuff is always just enough within the realm of reason that they sound reasonable, and he does a good job of downplaying both rampant pessimism and super-hype optimism. There is no data that he has disseminated which can be explicitly verified (but this is true of pretty much any leak we've heard from anybody so far). However, from this earlier post of mine:
lherre said:
lherre is considered confirmed by the mods, so IdeaMan is… second order confirmed, I guess. His alibi for not being directly confirmed by mods (which is actually a reasonable alibi) is that he is a former journalist, not a current employee of a developer or publisher, so there is nothing that could actually be confirmed which would guarantee that he has access to a devkit.
don't you guys think you're being a bit too cynical on the matter?
Even if Ps4/Nextbox are really powerful... it's doubtful that many developers are going to be spending all that money on those games when they can just be cheap, and make games across PS3+/WiiU/360+.
Well if lherre is a believer then I guess I'll, as suggested, at least listen. But e3 can't come soon enough.
Well if lherre is a believer then I guess I'll, as suggested, at least listen. But e3 can't come soon enough.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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It's what they do.
MadOdorMachine
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Well, next year will be the last big wave of PS3/360 games and then I expect most devs to switch if they haven't already. There's still a possibility of late ports like RE6. Time will tell though. It really depends on how powerful Wii U is. If it can't run UE4 at all I will be very concerned.
People can't stand being optimistic. Being a pessimist means that you can be right all along or be blown away.
Don't worry, I remain the eternal untainted optimist here. Caution and forced pessimism is for pussies.
MadOdorMachine
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Kind of like how Wii was cheaper to develop for than PS3/360?
except the Wii U unlike the Wii is modern enough that the ability to multiplatform the same version exists.
And it is. It just got perverted into meaning that developing for the Wii was somehow more expensive because they'd have to add a Wii version on top of the money set aside for PS3/360 games. Which meant developing for the Wii was expensive. Or something.
I know it doesn't sound like it makes sense but if you think real hard about it and then imagine yourself getting hit in the head with a brick, it'll make sense.
MadOdorMachine
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Not if it won't run UE4. We didn't see PS2/Xbox development continue because of Wii. It's the same logic.
kingkaiser
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The question is, who will buy such multiplatform versions for Wii U when people can play them on a console they already own?
Actually we saw it continue on PSP.
blu
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Actually we did. PS2 got quite a few Wii ports.
GameplayWhore
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DooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooomed!
For what it's worth, the Wii's development cheapness was offset by being so different that it was much cheaper to develop for the other two systems that it would have been to do so for all three. This time around, the system is hardly different (according to the latest known facts and rumours) in the places that count the most -- available inputs and gpu effect capabilities. These barriers are now gone, so it could mean much more third party support.
Keep in mind that lherre (and actually IdeaMan himself!) coached us to keep in mind that IdeaMan's information was somewhat peppered by subjectivity. The keyword is often "context".
If the Wii U version is indeed the better version I would buy that version.
People already own PS4 and XB3?
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