Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes

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Medalion said:
They say they plan to to have full wii-u retail games for download

Gee... Can only download one game and delete it to play another
Actually, that sounds like something they would almost do
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Nintendo is all about options. If you want to download retail, then you have to buy a storage device of some sort, but they won't force that upon all of their consumers (by driving up the price of the console), especially if most would rather have a physical copy.
 
SaintMadeOfPlaster said:
All the good things about the game were a result of Team Ninja. It pains me to say it, but Nintendo was the source of most of the shit in the game.

It was Sakamoto that demanded it only use the Remote with no Nunchuk. It was Sakamoto who made the awful story, and whose idea it was to make Samus weak-willed.

The gameplay, which is what Team Ninja did, was excellent, considering the restraints that were forced upon them.
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G4: Going back to Ninja Gaiden 3 – Team Ninja’s last action game, Metroid: Other M, was also quite story-heavy. The story elements, however, received something of a mixed reaction among players and critics. Have you learned anything from your experience with that title, and how will you use it to improve the story presentation in NG3?


Hayashi: The story for Other M was definitely the product of Mr. Sakamoto at Nintendo. We definitely worked with them on the project, but that was all him. For NG3, we’ve worked with Masato Kato to create our own story. It’s going to be different in a lot of ways. There are definitely things we learned from Other M by working with Mr. Sakamoto and with Nintendo that we’ve applied to the NG development. The actual story that you will experience here, however, will have a very different feel. A “Team Ninja” feel, you might say.
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:(

The game could have turned out to be something spectacular if the story wasn't garbage and they had nunchuk support.
 
TheExplodingHead said:
Which is why Nintendo should just release the target specs and be done with any confusion. It creates too much unnecessary attention on that aspect when it's not made 100% clear. With that out of the way we can get into more in-depth relevant speculation on games, services, and realistic uses for the controller. But yeah, it creates a lot of messy assumption and confusion with them being all mysterious about it.

I expect to see a lot of show time at E3 to center around stuff we don't really care about too. New casual/family titles, Nintendogs Wii U, casual apps, and otherwise Reggie hyping up stuff nobody who's there has any interest in. I also think they need to devote at least a full 10-15 stage minutes to detailing the online component.
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I'm in two minds about whether they should release the specs. Their argument is that gameplay is most important and people shouldn't concern themselves with horsepower so much. We, as in enthusiast gamers, generally want to know the specs and also know how to sort the chaff from the wheat in the sense that if we knew them, we'd understand them and then move on. However, I wonder if Nintendo is more concerned about the mainstream media picking up on the specs as opposed to the gaming media. If the mainstream media starts talking about how this new "Nintendo Wii" barely beats the current consoles who will come out next year and render "avatar quality graphics" *that* could have a detrimental affect on the system.

So in short, if they don't tell us I don't think it's because they are worried about the gamers. They are worried about the mainstream.

Still, I want them of course :)


BTW: How long until the investor's meeting. I've lost track.
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Smiles and Cries said:
I fail to see them have this much on WiiU when they had HDD they can sell separately
but if wiiu has the kinds of app store we all expect it to have maybe 20GB is lowballing
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It'd be a start. SD cards and USB memory/HDD can always be added by the user later.

Mr. MondayNight said:
Fingers firmly crossed



Maybe the Wii U disk is big enough to hold all that extra data so they have no need for a 16 gig USB drive
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This is a two disc Wii game. The maximum a (dual layer) Wii disc holds is 9 GB. Two of them means 18GB. A Wii U disc holds 25 GB. I hardly think that is the case.
 
Is it possible that Nintendo can have a partnership with Western Digital (Or their Japanese doppelganger) to release a cheap HDD or even a cheap SSD to release with/or in the Wii U?
 
SaintMadeOfPlaster said:
All the good things about the game were a result of Team Ninja. It pains me to say it, but Nintendo was the source of most of the shit in the game.

It was Sakamoto that demanded it only use the Remote with no Nunchuk. It was Sakamoto who made the awful story, and whose idea it was to make Samus weak-willed.

The gameplay, which is what Team Ninja did, was excellent, considering the restraints that were forced upon them.
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Well he wanted remote only because the game was originally supposed to be purely 2D. Also the gameplay being "excellent" is an overstatement. The level design was mediocre in many areas, and the pixel hunting shit was terrible. Also I think the overall plot was ok. The mystery of the space station is pretty engaging, with some neat plot twists.

In any event giving all credit to one side and placing all blame on the other is a bit silly. Particularly without knowing the exact details of what went on in the development process. The failure of the game is on both Team Ninja and Nintendo/Sakamoto, the entire game is a collection of interesting ideas and mechanics that were poorly executed.
 
Medalion said:
They say they plan to to have full wii-u retail games for download

Gee... Can only download one game and delete it to play another
Actually, that sounds like something they would almost do
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Why force a HDD down consumers throats' if they don't need it though? It just drives the sticker price up on the system when apparently the controller is already doing a fine job at that. The more shit in a $299-$349 retail box, the less powerful the console will be. If you want downloadable Wii U games (or GameCube, Wii), externals aren't that expensive nowadays - assuming they keep their promise that the external doesn't have to be Nintendo branded. Enough internal for some VC games, saves, patches, etc and I'm happy. Anything more, I'm fine purchasing on my own when I need to.
 
Mr. MondayNight said:
Is it possible that Nintendo can have a partnership with Western Digital (Or their Japanese doppelganger) to release a cheap HDD or even a cheap SSD to release with/or in the Wii U?
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Sadly I don't think that can be an option with HDD pricing being a mess for the forseeable future. HDD's are basically double the cost they were prior to those factories getting ruined by flooding.

M74 said:
So losses were less than expected. Nintendo (un)doomed:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=471775
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I would guess that stronger than expected software sales, particularly thanks to the big 3 over in Japan helped them significantly. Looks like it had mostly to do with the yen.
 
Glass Joe said:
Why force a HDD down consumers throats' if they don't need it though? It just drives the sticker price up on the system when apparently the controller is already doing a fine job at that. The more shit in a $299-$349 retail box, the less powerful the console will be. If you want downloadable Wii U games (or GameCube, Wii), externals aren't that expensive nowadays - assuming they keep their promise that the external doesn't have to be Nintendo branded. Enough internal for some VC games, saves, patches, etc and I'm happy. Anything more, I'm fine purchasing on my own when I need to.
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To you and me, we can do that... We know HOW to do it
Most users need everything there in one package
More devices intimidates them cuz they think it is more complicated than it is
 
Instro said:
Well he wanted remote only because the game was originally supposed to be purely 2D. Also the gameplay being "excellent" is an overstatement. The level design was mediocre in many areas, and the pixel hunting shit was terrible. Also I think the overall plot was ok. The mystery of the space station is pretty engaging, with some neat plot twists.

In any event giving all credit to one side and placing all blame on the other is a bit silly. Particularly without knowing the exact details of what went on in the development process. The failure of the game is on both Team Ninja and Nintendo/Sakamoto, the entire game is a collection of interesting ideas and mechanics that were poorly executed.
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Well, considering the big issues of the game were 1) Completely awful story and 2) lack of nunchuck, I think it's easy to put the blame on Nintendo.
 
HylianTom said:
Well, I guess Iwata won't have to use that "break-glass-in-case-of-horrible-earnings-report" Wii U information. Good for him.
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Almost a 50% save over projections. They got lucky, but they still lost a noticeable amount for the first time in a while. It certainly wouldn't hurt them to give a little something to sweeten the pot for nervous investors.
 
Medalion said:
Not fail as much

Hold back the revelaitons

Shit
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Hey, I'll take the good news. With more cash remaining in their big pile of NintendoMoney, they're more flexible on:
- final decisions regarding which Wii U hardware they can afford
- more investment into their online network
- third-party moneyhatting (or outright buying a third party)
- being able to adjust the price on the Wii U

E3 is only another 40 days or so. And perhaps M74 is correct.. it is still a loss that Iwata has to smooth-over somewhat, so maybe a taste of Wii U info will encourage investors?

Either way, I'm pretty cheerful at the moment. This was supposed to be nearly a billion-dollar loss. 10% of their cash - gone. But things are loomin' better. Not too doomy. :D
 
Medalion said:
Final decisions on wiiu?

That sumbitch better be complete before E3
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They've gotta be close. Manufacturing usually starts just a few months before Launch Day.

And one more key use for money that I forgot:
- more cash for an absolutely BEHEMOTH ad campaign when the Wii U launch nears..
 
There was some talk a few days ago about a rumor that they shrunk the screen size of the Padlet screen from 6.2". The Newest Earnings report mentions the screen is still 6.2" so guess we can put that rumor to rest.
 
HylianTom said:
Hey, I'll take the good news. With more cash remaining in their big pile of NintendoMoney, they're more flexible on:
- final decisions regarding which Wii U hardware they can afford
- more investment into their online network
- third-party moneyhatting (or outright buying a third party)
- being able to adjust the price on the Wii U

E3 is only another 40 days or so. And perhaps M74 is correct.. it is still a loss that Iwata has to smooth-over somewhat, so maybe a taste of Wii U info will encourage investors?

Either way, I'm pretty cheerful at the moment. This was supposed to be nearly a billion-dollar loss. 10% of their cash - gone. But things are loomin' better. Not too doomy. :D
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Their net sales were still lower than projected, and even though they lost less its probably pittance compared to what they have in the bank. So I don't think it will cause them to spend much more.

I read somewhere that they project 10million wii+wii u combined for this fiscal year. Seeing as Wii sold 9.8 last year they must be expecting either a drop off of mega prortions for wii or next to no sales of wii u. Basically, Wii U confirmed delayed to March 30th 2013 :)
 
antonz said:
There was some talk a few days ago about a rumor that they shrunk the screen size of the Padlet screen from 6.2". The Newest Earnings report mentions the screen is still 6.2" so guess we can put that rumor to rest.
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I did not think there was any WiiU info in the reports not that I have downloaded any of it... I was waiting for a lazy list of stuff posted
 
AzaK said:
Their net sales were still lower than projected, and even though they lost less its probably pittance compared to what they have in the bank. So I don't think it will cause them to spend much more.

I read somewhere that they project 10million wii+wii u combined for this fiscal year. Seeing as Wii sold 9.8 last year they must be expecting either a drop off of mega prortions for wii or next to no sales of wii u. Basically, Wii U confirmed delayed to March 30th 2013 :)
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If I have to wait until 2013 for my wii u i'm gonna kick a puppy and we know how much Nintendo loves puppies....
 
AzaK said:
Their net sales were still lower than projected, and even though they lost less its probably pittance compared to what they have in the bank. So I don't think it will cause them to spend much more.

I read somewhere that they project 10million wii+wii u combined for this fiscal year. Seeing as Wii sold 9.8 last year they must be expecting either a drop off of mega prortions for wii or next to no sales of wii u. Basically, Wii U confirmed delayed to March 30th 2013 :)
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The 10 million combined thing is really low. I would think they would hve 3-4 million Wii U ready for NA at the minimum this fall and the Wii should be able to do more than 6-7 million all year unless they just pull the plug
 
antonz said:
The 10 million combined thing is really low. I would think they would hve 3-4 million Wii U ready for NA at the minimum this fall and the Wii should be able to do more than 6-7 million all year unless they just pull the plug
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Nintendo got some humble pie after this whole 3ds thing.
 
antonz said:
The 10 million combined thing is really low. I would think they would hve 3-4 million Wii U ready for NA at the minimum this fall and the Wii should be able to do more than 6-7 million all year unless they just pull the plug
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Wii shipped like 5-6 million in the calender 4th quarter 2011. they likely plan to cut that off completely with the Wii U in 2012.

Or even if they dont, Wii would likely easily record a 50% or more drop in sales all by itself, given it's current sales trends, even if Wii U didn't exist.
 
AzaK said:
Their net sales were still lower than projected, and even though they lost less its probably pittance compared to what they have in the bank. So I don't think it will cause them to spend much more.

I read somewhere that they project 10million wii+wii u combined for this fiscal year. Seeing as Wii sold 9.8 last year they must be expecting either a drop off of mega prortions for wii or next to no sales of wii u. Basically, Wii U confirmed delayed to March 30th 2013 :)
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I know that they had at least $10 billion in cash - and no debt. If projected losses were around $1 billion but they ended-up only losing about half that amount, then they have about half a billion more than what was anticipated. Not too shabby.

But a Wii U delay? I think I'd cry.
 
Earnings report indicates Nintendo is still aiming for an End of Calendar Year release window for Wii U so no surprise summer.

Brief mention of the Nintendo Network and Digital Downloads going forward etc
 
Do you think the HD/Graphics will figure into the Wii U marketing? Like, theypretty much have to mention it, lest people think "no thanks, new controller isn't enough for 300+ dollars."
 
HylianTom said:
I know that they had at least $10 billion in cash - and no debt. If projected losses were around $1 billion but they ended-up only losing about half that amount, then they have about half a billion more than what was anticipated. Not too shabby.

But a Wii U delay? I think I'd cry.
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Wii-U delay, don't think it couldn't happen
 
Some management strategy info
Moreover, Nintendo will push forward with "Nintendo Network," which is the network service for the "Nintendo 3DS" and the "Wii U," and offer game experiences, which enable users to compete and interact with others all over the world, and provide add-on content by utilizing its network functions.

Furthermore, for the purposes of adapting to the changes in the environment surrounding the video game market and creating new business opportunities, Nintendo is envisioning the digital distribution of packaged software and is aiming at expanding the digital business

In the challenging and competitive video game industry, which consistently requires new and innovative products, Nintendo will continue striving to expand its offerings of compelling products and services by capitalizing on being a platform holder with powerful in-house software development teams.
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Sardello said:
I expected some pieces of info related to the Wii U launch date.
At least which quarter and in which reagion...

Q3, Q4?
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The (English) report says 'at the end of the calendar year', for what it's worth.

Japanese report uses 年末 to describe the release, corroborating the English translation (sometimes they're a bit different).
 
Linkhero1 said:
It could still change I suppose. Maybe it's not right to announce a name change now? I don't know but I like the Wii U name. The logo, on the other hand, is pretty hideous :P
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logos can change easier than names full marketing has yet to launch so there is plenty of time even after E3 a logo can change
 
antonz said:
Earnings report indicates Nintendo is still aiming for an End of Calendar Year release window for Wii U so no surprise summer.

Brief mention of the Nintendo Network and Digital Downloads going forward etc
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What worried me a bit about Wii U regions is that they said mainly Japan, US, Europe. Hope is kiwis don't have to wait until next year!
 
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