I disagree. Not with the circle pad and the 3D Screen. It will have controls almost identical to OoT 3D, I can guarantee it.
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I disagree. Not with the circle pad and the 3D Screen. It will have controls almost identical to OoT 3D, I can guarantee it.
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DragonSworne
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They should make a Hikari No Go game for WiiU.
$299 sounds fair.
i don't really see the wii u as competition to the ps360 though.
i mean they will provide different game experinces, ways to play and online setups.
the wii u is a mass market product like all nintendo systems have been
the trade off between the wii u and the ps360 systems is not going to be significant because the wii u has the tablet controller which will ensure that there is a major unique selling point and point of difference in the market place.
IsntChrisL
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You would have thought they'd learn that after the PS3 but then they still went all-out with the Vita. Sony's decisions puzzle me sometimes.
Dreamwriter
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Well, whomever wrote that Wikipedia article decided that the second generation was all about programmable carts. The Nintendo Computer TV Game doesn't use programmable carts, but it also wasn't just a continuation of the Color TV game series of game consoles that Nintendo made, because it was quite a bit more powerful than them. Rather than using Pong hardware, the Computer TV Game was basically a full arcade board in a plastic box (that Miyamoto designed!) that could play Othello. Because of this it could do multi-voice electronic sounds and actually had quite a good single-player AI. Also because of that, it required a huge (for its day) power supply, as you can see in this picture:
Oh, and for those people who say Nintendo hasn't ever released a console over $250...the Computer TV Game had a list price of 48,000 yen.
really?
I wouldn't count the chickens before they roost and lose their Flying secondary type.
It's unproven whether the tablet is really going to work that ninty magic.
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Quoting your pic because it reminds me of something slightly goofy that I wonder if anyone's addressed. How exactly does the tablet lay flat on the table? I'm hoping you don't have to prop the bottom up with an object ha ha. In other promotional photos I see it sitting at an angle, due to the bulge where the ZL and ZR buttons are:
AGITΩ;37452162 said:
it sucks when you get stuck as the last poster on a page (yes jerks I use 50 per page >_>). I'm not fond of writing long winded responses so I'll just say that I like your ideas and if the Wii U isn't $299-350 range I'll be severely disappointed.
Apophis2036
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So, out of the games that we definitely know are coming around launch, what are people interested in? Ive got my eye on:
Aliens: Colonial Marines
Assassin's Creed III
Darksiders II
Killer Freaks From Outer Space (pending more impressions)
Pikmin 3
Rayman Legends
Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing Transformed
Lego City Stories
Its a pretty healthy list. Not sure what will be day one, though. Plus there is always the chance of more at E3.
Add NSMB 2 to that list, unless you guys think it may be the free bundled game ?.
If they can get Madden / Fifa / WWE '13, BLOPS 2 and Resident Evil 6, then they will have a hell of a launch imo, esp if the WiiU versions are superior !
.Im expecting two out of Mario Kart, Starfox, F-Zero and Wave Race as other launch window first party exclusives aswell.
I would also love them to get Max Payne 3, Far Cry 3, Borderlands 2, Bioshock: Infinite, Tomb Raider, MoH Warfighter, GTA V and Crysis 3 but you can't have everything i suppose and im sure a lot of us have a PS3 or 360 to play those on so not like we are missing out.
Even at 100 posts pages, it's still the last post
But I usually like gathering input from the common folk who aren't on gaming forums more times than they actually game. It helps went I get input from my Nintendo rep though, since she does travel to Redmond and gets some decent info. I do like disputing with a lot of analysts theories simply because I talk to consumers on a daily basis, so I know whats in their minds when it comes to game systems.
The WiiU ultimately does suffer from brand confusion much like the 3DS, and the only way to combat it is proper advertising, which they lacked with 3DS, even to this day there are still those who believe its just a DS with 3D and nothing else.
Just out of sheer curiosity, I look forward to seeing which direction they choose. Sony's choice on which path to take will have its own fascinating ripple effects throughout the industry.
(hehehehe...)
And though I have vacillated between $299 and $349, I've been pretty comfortable sitting on a $299 price for the Nintendo Juicy™ at this point.
Add NSMB 2 to that list, unless you guys think it may be the free bundled game ?.
If they can get Madden / Fifa / WWE '13, BLOPS 2 and Resident Evil 6, then they will have a hell of a launch imo, esp if the WiiU versions are superior !
Im expecting two out of Mario Kart, Starfox, F-Zero and Wave Race as other launch window first party exclusives aswell.
I would also love them to get Max Payne 3, Far Cry 3, Borderlands 2, Bioshock: Infinite, Tomb Raider, MoH Warfighter, GTA V and Crysis 3 but you can't have everything i suppose and im sure a lot of us have a PS3 or 360 to play those on so not like we are missing out.
NSMB2 is a 3DS game. We have no idea what Mario game will hit for the Wii U.
Mario Kart Wii U will be a holiday 2013 title.
They're definitely hoping for $350 I think, but they're going to be more cautious due to the 3DS launch fiasco. If feedback after E3 in the press and on the street seems slightly mixed, they'll probably drop to $299 internally at last minute. If it sounds like people can't wait to buy it, $350 it will be.
Kind of how the N64 was going to be $249 and ended up launching for $199 - no doubt due to the success of Playstation. But that was a long time ago and I might not be remembering correctly.
Three that you mentioned are racing games. I'd expect ONE if we're lucky. Probably not Mario Kart as that is a momentum game to push consoles and MK7 3DS is still new (I'm thinking probably holiday 2013). Star Fox maybe. F-Zero or Wave Race would be sweet. Wave Race was launch-era GC and F-Zero was launch era SNES. I'd say it's F-Zero's turn, especially since I love the franchise
Kind of how the N64 was going to be $249 and ended up launching for $199 - no doubt due to the success of Playstation. But that was a long time ago and I might not be remembering correctly.
Apophis2036 said:
Three that you mentioned are racing games. I'd expect ONE if we're lucky. Probably not Mario Kart as that is a momentum game to push consoles and MK7 3DS is still new (I'm thinking probably holiday 2013). Star Fox maybe. F-Zero or Wave Race would be sweet. Wave Race was launch-era GC and F-Zero was launch era SNES. I'd say it's F-Zero's turn, especially since I love the franchise
I'm pretty sure it'll be a sequel to Spirit Tracks. Same art style, not the same vein of gameplay.
AGITΩ;37452772 said:Even at 100 posts pages, it's still the last post
But I usually like gathering input from the common folk who aren't on gaming forums more times than they actually game. It helps went I get input from my Nintendo rep though, since she does travel to Redmond and gets some decent info. I do like disputing with a lot of analysts theories simply because I talk to consumers on a daily basis, so I know whats in their minds when it comes to game systems.
The WiiU ultimately does suffer from brand confusion much like the 3DS, and the only way to combat it is proper advertising, which they lacked with 3DS, even to this day there are still those who believe its just a DS with 3D and nothing else.
It should just be called the wii tu! english speakers think it means "two" and the actual concept of wii u is still retained. everyone wins! spanish is fun! lack of brand confusion is fun!
I'm hoping for a hand-held title more along the lines of LTTP and LA. Withe the glorious skyward word art-style.
That is what I've been saying since day 1 man.
really? Does Miyamoto need to confirm NSMBMii for the third time before we acknowledge it? Or did you mean "when"?
Other than Smash, that's the only way you could get me to buy a Wii U day one. That or a $200 price tag.
the wii u controller makes it very easy to pick up and play, continue playing games while watching tv.
thats why it will sell like hotcakes !!!
I don't think so.
I don't share your confidence. Being interrupted whilst gaming isn't a problem everyone has, especially households with more than one TV.
um, to my knowledge he never specified what the next mario game on wii u would be. please provide a source since you seem so informed.
I'll believe it when I see it. It still won't be NSMB2.
The official stance regarding NSMBMii was that Nintendo would show a Mario Wii U game based on that demonstration. Doesn't mean it'll be the said title nor does it deny it'll be the title. We have a month to go. Let's just wait & see.
Perhaps not, but I enjoy watching sports throughout the yr & the idea of playing Batman AC while sitting on the couch & watching the Superbowl sounds pretty fucking awesome.
Simply playing a game while a show's on is a nice selling point for me. Having a baseball game on or something I'm only mildly interested in while gaming? Yes, please.
If it's a question of "when"? Yea, no one has any dates or any Wii U titles. If it's a question of what Mario it's quite obvious that New Super Mario Bros. Mii is it, considering it's the only Mario Wii U title that exists, was at last e3, and has been confirmed to be at this e3 as well.
Didn't GAF freak out about a month about about a "new Super Mario" title being shown at e3, only to have the obvious be revealed that it was a "New Super Mario Bros.?"
I guess that could make it NSMB2 for the 3DS thogh...
A modern sequel to Minish Cap as well would blow my mind. I was the only kid on my block who thought that was a "legit" zelda game.
Kacho
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Wow, I never thought about it that way. I could watch football AND continue playing my game. Amazing really.
Depends if they actually decide to make 2 different SKU's like PS3 and 360. Make one with like 2-8GB Flash Memory a Entry Level Sku at around $299 with a WiiSports equivalent packaged in, then implement a Solid State HDD SKU for $399 with the WiiSports equivalent and another game with a more "core" appeal wouldn't be considered Suicide.
Take the Xbox 360 Kinect Bundle 250GB. Retails for $399. It honestly doesn't fly off shelves because its a Casual Aimed machine that's got Extra GB they just don't care for. Compare that to the Special Edition 360s that have 250 to 320GB, no Kinect but instead comes packaged with a "core" game. Typically those fair better.
It typically boils down to: Whats packaged with it, and who its aimed for.
I know as a 3DS gamer who will be playing NSMB in August, having a NSMB Wii 2 launch with the unit is not exciting. At all. At worst, I'd play them and suspect that they're both half-assed and should have been one full experience. At best, NSMB Wii will knock it out of the park but two side scrolling Mario games in 3 months is lunacy.
Precisely. This is going to essentially be two systems in one. Firstly, it'll be a traditional home console. And secondly, it'll function as an around-the-house handheld gaming device, free of the television.
If Nintendo were smart, they'd hammer the hell out of this fact in their ad campaign.
It's cool, but it's not "sell like hotcakes" cool or "this isn't competing against the ps3/360" novel.
If it's actually true. In other words, how much range can we even expect?
I thought it was a "same room" thing according to Reggie.
I agree. I doubt they'll have a Mario at Wii U launch that shares the NSMB moniker. They won't put up two similar Mario games in a small timeframe on each system. As I said, let's wait & see what E3 brings.
it's still a different playing experience with a console game in your hands rather than on playing on a tv.
why?
because your more personally involved. like you would reading a book. you tend to focus more than you would if you just played normally on the tv.
Anything but over the top will be disappointing to me. Especially after the abominations that were the DS Zelda titles.
There was something about them switching wireless protocol possibly. Which would mean the transmission range wouldn't be limited to the same room and maybe even floor.
I remember a year or so ago, Nintendo filed to Trademark almost every single letter of the alphabet with "ii" at the end of it. Though the Wii name would instantly put a bad taste in some core gamers Nintendo is trying to recapture, if they went with something like the Zii, I'd actually like a "ZWii" like Zwei, it would still be associated to the Wii while still standing out.
There's no way Nintendo's not aware of this. That was one of the first things they pointed out in the reveal trailer.
That point alone is their definitive selling point IMO.
I understand how Motion Controls were a big deal. It (theoretically) made gaming a more accessible and sometimes active thing. But the power of being able to play a game in your hands has been done before in, well, handhelds. It's certainly a welcome addition, but I don't think that bullet point is what's going to make the WU sell. It can definitely woo gamers, but that's not how you reach the big numbers anymore these days.
bgassassin
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That wouldn't happen if you didn't use 5...
Circle?
I agree with your post AG as I deal a lot with retail.
I would also add that when it comes to pricing one of the reasons the 3DS situation is different is because its perceived value is different from what Wii U should be able to obtain.
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This is literally the main point of the wireless video streaming. Nintendo (I think it was) has said before that television is the unsung competitor for video games. The whole idea behind the Wii U pad isn't primarily to add touch functionality, but to eliminate the clash between television and video games using the same screen.
It's also likely their plan of attack for Japan, where console sales are pretty miserable. Unlike the US, and most of the Western world, it is far more uncommon for a Japanese household to have more than one TV. Plus, on average, there's less space. The idea behind the Wii U tablet is that people can continue to play games in a household where only one TV is operational, and that TV is being used to watch something.
Of course that alone wont make it sell. It's the features, apps, and software you can't find on handhelds that will sell the console. Nintendo just needs a title that will have a similar effect that Wii Sports did with the Wii.
Zoramon089
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Explain without using the words multitouch
Range.
It's like a laptop without a battery. You can only use it near a socket, or in the Wii U's case near your Wii U (or if we're lucky in your house period).
I'm not one of those peeps who gives a Flying Fairy about captive vs. resistive vs. haptics vs.
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