Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012

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Mr_Brit said:
That's a big mistake. Middleware developers should have been the first non Japanese companies to get dev kits. Good middleware is the key to getting good first party support, without it Nintendo might as well say goodbye to receiving big multiplatform games.
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I don't think Nintendo's too concerned about good first party support.

I agree with Carl Jones (the interviewee) in that it's the market that will determine the support. Not middleware.

DaSorcerer7 said:
Hold up, I'm sure I read some time ago that they had the engine running o wii u hardware already
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Same thing I thought when I read it. And none of the games that use Cryengine seem like logical candidates to be on early dev kits either... unless that rumored pic of Crysis running on Wii U was legit.
 
Crytek: We're bringing our tech to Wii U

CryEngine-built software is already close to fully running on Nintendo’s next-generation console, engine vendor Crytek has said.
“Crytek’s support for Wii U is definitely going to happen,” company CEO Cevat Yerli told Develop in a new interview to be published soon.
Yerli claimed that CryEngine's tech was close to fully running on Nintendo’s new system, though wouldn’t specify any details.
“We aren't showing it but we are pretty much running it already,” Yerli said.
The news comes days after Develop revealed that Crytek’s closest business rival, Epic Games, is also supporting Wii U with its high-end game engine.

http://www.develop-online.net/news/38014/Crytek-Were-bringing-our-tech-to-Wii-U
 
DaSorcerer7 said:
Crytek: We're bringing our tech to Wii U

CryEngine-built software is already close to fully running on Nintendo’s next-generation console, engine vendor Crytek has said.
“Crytek’s support for Wii U is definitely going to happen,” company CEO Cevat Yerli told Develop in a new interview to be published soon.
Yerli claimed that CryEngine's tech was close to fully running on Nintendo’s new system, though wouldn’t specify any details.
“We aren't showing it but we are pretty much running it already,” Yerli said.
The news comes days after Develop revealed that Crytek’s closest business rival, Epic Games, is also supporting Wii U with its high-end game engine.

http://www.develop-online.net/news/38014/Crytek-Were-bringing-our-tech-to-Wii-U
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That directly contradicts Crytek saying they don't even have a dev kit. I wonder who's right.
 
Mr_Brit said:
That directly contradicts Crytek saying they don't even have a dev kit. I wonder who's right.
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It's definitely a strange response. I mean unless when he says "he hasn't seen one", that they do have one and he hasn't physically seen it. But even then with the other mention, there would not be a need to be secretive.
 
We have to take a CEO's word against a developer's, however. Chances are more likely that the CEO lied for the sake of PR and they don't really have a kit.
 
He said that they're experimenting with the Wii U, but that he hasn't seen the dev kits himself. I'm not really sure why he would have seen them, he's a marketing director.
 
Instro said:
Seems more likely that they have one, just not everyone in the place has seen it yet.
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Knowing Nintendo, they were visiting the office beforehand and did background checks on everyone there evaluating if they can be trusted or not. Everyone who failed the evaluation was sent on vacation for some days. lol
 
Nintendo is going to have to launch WiiU with a stellar first party line up in order for me to justify purchasing one at launch. An HD Mario, Metroid, Kid Icarus, or Zelda is a must.

Relying on third parties too heavily at launch with games most of us can already buy for ps360(which most of us already own) is a bad idea. Unless of course Nintendo can barter some exclusivity/timed exclusivity deals with the third parties.

Bear in mind the Activision/MS COD DLC exclusivity deal expires in 2012. If Nintendo is serious about online gaming and getting the core gamer back they definitely have the financial capitol to approach Activision to secure something similar.

Ultimately though, for me, the decision to buy at launch is going to be decided by Nintendo's first party launch line up and specifics regarding their online features and how it will work.
 
BlackNMild2k1 said:
You guys are back to discussing a comment from Crytek that was posted exactly 1 month ago?

check the article date. There is nothing new there.
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At this point, we might as well let this thread die and just create a new thread when some actual new information is released.
 
ii Stryker said:
Nintendo is going to have to launch WiiU with a stellar first party line up in order for me to justify purchasing one at launch. An HD Mario, Metroid, Kid Icarus, or Zelda is a must.
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I would be shocked if any of those games are available at launch
even a late 2012 launch

It pisses me off greatly :(
 
Mr_Brit said:
That directly contradicts Crytek saying they don't even have a dev kit. I wonder who's right.
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Did one of the Yerli brothers say that? I don't think so. Anyway, they already had devkits for a while, and they have stuff running on those devkits. Like, you know, Crysis 2 and stuff. Not that that will ever become an actual product or something, but they have it running on Wii U hardware.
 
Bit-Bit said:
I think Nintendos been working on core games for the Wii U for atleast two years now. Judging from this years lack of Wii games.
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Agreed. There is no other reason for the first-party Wii game shortage.
 
BlackNMild2k1 said:
You guys are back to discussing a comment from Crytek that was posted exactly 1 month ago?

check the article date. There is nothing new there.
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That was posted because it contradicts this: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29282366&postcount=2099


And yeah, I guess it's possible this particular guy didn't see the kit, but the question wasn't even asking if they had seen it. It asked if Crytek had a kit. If Crytek has a kit, the only reason for him to answer like that would be that he wants to hide the fact that they have it, or he just sucks at answering questions. Why is it that EVERY SINGLE QUESTION about this console is answered in a cryptic way? I'm really getting pissed off about it at this point!
 
Kleegamefan said:
I would be shocked if any of those games are available at launch
even a late 2012 launch

It pisses me off greatly :(
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I'm sooooo pissed off they can't just shit out great games in the blink of an eye!
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WTF Nintendo! Taking time to actually make good games. Fuck that!

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BlackNMild2k1 said:
You guys are back to discussing a comment from Crytek that was posted exactly 1 month ago?

check the article date. There is nothing new there.
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It wasn't posted as a new report, but just to oppose a more recent conflicting article.
 
Rolf NB said:
If you think wireless has any impact whatsoever on your ability to game, you're a fucking idiot and there's a host of interesting business proposals I would like to make to you.
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The problem with wireless has nothing to do with the quality of an active connection (at least for me). In my experience, routers have been prone to brief disconnects in the past. Just enough to cause you to drop a game. I'm no competitive online gamer, but that shit still pisses me off to no end.
 
KrawlMan said:
The problem with wireless has nothing to do with the quality of an active connection (at least for me). In my experience, routers have been prone to brief disconnects in the past. Just enough to cause you to drop a game. I'm no competitive online gamer, but that shit still pisses me off to no end.
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Unless you have a 10-year-old router with buggy firmware, or are extremely far from the base - disconnections are extremely rare on modern wifi.
 
Kleegamefan said:
I would be shocked if any of those games are available at launch
even a late 2012 launch

It pisses me off greatly :(
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Zelda games have a development time of around four to five years and they haven't released the one they're working on now. The 3D Mario team is making a game right now that won't be released until the end of the year, though I would not be surprised to see a NSMB-style Mario at or within a year from launch. A Kid Icarus game is maybe releasing this year.

Metroid, who knows.

Great games just don't happen and launch hardware is always in such flux that game development has a very difficult time coinciding with it. A lot of the teams that make these games are busy, well, making games.

Anyone expecting anything mindblowing from the launch will be disappointed. The system's best chance at a good launch is that it comes out right around the time of Darksiders 2 and that game is best on Wii U. I think THQ might aim for that, as well, as being the premiere game on the system would mean a lot of extra sales for them.
 
something that I am curious to see, is how 'core' will response to an HD Nintendo game, aren't they curious to see what, say, Retro can come up with in HD?

Great games just don't happen and launch hardware is always in such flux that game development has a very difficult time coinciding with it. A lot of the teams that make these games are busy, well, making games.
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I can NOT see Retro not having a launch game up their sleeve, they have been free after DKCR.

The problem with wireless has nothing to do with the quality of an active connection (at least for me). In my experience, routers have been prone to brief disconnects in the past. Just enough to cause you to drop a game. I'm no competitive online gamer, but that shit still pisses me off to no end.
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yes, some routers have this problem, but with most routers (or access points) thishappen seldom, or rarely.
 
BurntPork said:
We have to take a CEO's word against a developer's, however. Chances are more likely that the CEO lied for the sake of PR and they don't really have a kit.
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There are two Crytek studios, so maybe only the Germany based studio has devkits.
 
walking fiend said:
something that I am curious to see, is how 'core' will response to an HD Nintendo game, aren't they curious to see what, say, Retro can come up with in HD?


I can NOT see Retro not having a launch game up their sleeve, they have been free after DKCR.
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I am sure Retro is making something, they recently hired programmers and artists with HD experience, so they're making a WiiU game, clearly.

Games like Prime take longer than games like DKCR, so it's up in the air what they're actually developing.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
I am sure Retro is making something, they recently hired programmers and artists with HD experience, so they're making a WiiU game, clearly.

Games like Prime take longer than games like DKCR, so it's up in the air what they're actually developing.
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dunno really, they are some crazy shit bastards, made first prime in less tha 2 years:

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During the last nine months of development Retro's staff worked 80 to 100-hour weeks to reach the deadline imposed by Nintendo
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team bondi people were complaining about works hours?
 
Kleegamefan said:
I would be shocked if any of those games are available at launch
even a late 2012 launch

It pisses me off greatly :(
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Retro is working on something for the core, my guess is either an HD Metroid game or a Kid Icarus FPS.
 
BurntPork said:
... Or maybe a new IP?
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I believe in an interview someone from Nintendo said they have been working on something that they have been asked to do for a long time. Really vague, however I believe no one wanted them to work on a DKCR2 or Metroid4 for a long time.
 
walking fiend said:
I believe in an interview someone from Nintendo said they have been working on something that they have been asked to do for a long time. Really vague, however I believe no one wanted them to work on a DKCR2 or Metroid4 for a long time.
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Yes, I read that somewhere as well.

Thats why I think its either some LoZ spin off or a new IP. Those are really the only things I heard a ton of people asking for.
 
walking fiend said:
I believe in an interview someone from Nintendo said they have been working on something that they have been asked to do for a long time. Really vague, however I believe no one wanted them to work on a DKCR2 or Metroid4 for a long time.
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Ever since they made Metroid Prime 3 people have been calling for them to revive that series. Especially after that debacle known as "Other M."
 
walking fiend said:
I believe in an interview someone from Nintendo said they have been working on something that they have been asked to do for a long time. Really vague, however I believe no one wanted them to work on a DKCR2 or Metroid4 for a long time.
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Pretty sure that comment was just a rumor.
 
Black-Wind said:
Yes, I read that somewhere as well.

Thats why I think its either some LoZ spin off or a new IP. Those are really the only things I heard a ton of people asking for.
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If Retro has a new core IP ready for launch it's going to be really hard for me to resist buying the WiiU.
 
walking fiend said:
I believe in an interview someone from Nintendo said they have been working on something that they have been asked to do for a long time. Really vague, however I believe no one wanted them to work on a DKCR2 or Metroid4 for a long time.
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I want to see a new IP more than anything. I want Nintendo to release at least five new core IPs this gen, if only to shut the haters up, but I know that won't happen. :/
 
if nintendo is legitimately serious about making a play for folk who like more complicated longer-play games, one of the best things they could do is have a really good one available at/near launch that no one else has... ideally something they developed internally, or by a more-or-less internal studio.

having it be a *new* ip that doesn't stick too obviously to either of "mushroom kingdom" or "bald space marine" aesthetics seems advisable as well...
 
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