Wii U Speculation Thread The Third: Casting Dreams in The Castle of Miyamoto

So opinion that goes against yours is not logical? I saw some decent arguments from both sides.

I hope they expand on the Bird Demo in E3

Opinions were thrown around a lot in that thread, it is a question that can be answered by opinion after all, but I used math based around DPI, which too opinions out of the equation, basically if you are looking at your TV screen, you can sit x distance away from your TV without noticing a drop in resolution between your TV and your controller.

Anyone arguing against me wanted to compare iPhone 4s and iPad3s, which is where opinion mattered again I guess.

I would love to see something else from that Japanese garden.
 
I don't think so. Crytek hired couple high profile programmers too. They also have bunch of them that are 10 years at Crytek, 1st class programmers.

I know, but Crytek is probably Epic's biggest rival (at least in the public eye). Both are talented groups of programmers for sure.
 
We did know that Junction Point is actually working on Wii U, right?
We've heard rumors of them making Epic Mickey 2 for the console for a while now.
Not sure if it was ever confirmed in any way.
Then consider my post a confirmation - they are working on Wii U stuff. Dunno if it's Epic Mickey 2, but what else would it be?
Neat.
I wouldn't bet on anything other than EM2.
ooh, awesome. I guess it's going to be multiplat PS3/X360/Wii U?
Probably.

On the rumor list I posted (Ace put it in the OP), you'll see that Epic Mickey 2 was originally rumored to be a Multi-play with co-op play, and then it was rumored that they were putting Wii U features in at a later date. So I'm just gonna note this as a semi-confirmation until an actual unveiling let me check it off the list.
 
This talk of Crytek makes me think of this:

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Nintendo should license that damn engine.
 
Iwata should tell everyone a few weeks before E3 that once you see actual Wii U game footage "You will say wow". You know, for the lulz.
 
Ninja Gaiden 3 OT is already up we are getting closer and closer to games that will come to WiiU

For that matter you may also look at recent stuff of Darksiders 2 and Aliens: colonial marines, that look very promising by now; on my part I reckon, until some more substantial infos about WiiU's versions are undisclosed, these videos are of no indication about WiiU's hardware potential.

OK, I see the argument that in the worst possible scenario WiiU's versions should at least be better compared to PS3/Xbox360's ones - by the same token we could look at the best games overall of this gen, regardless of whether they're coming on WiiU or not - but that hardly tells us anything new about how big a bump it will be at any rate.
 
Wait, but isn't that comparing games rendering to the whole expanded resolution? Using that 1920x1080 Crysis 2 example, if you have two other monitors simply displaying desktops, the framerate shouldn't dip too far below the example's 50 fps. On my aging PC I get about 55 fps in StarCraft 2 on low settings (lol) at the start of the game whether or not I have other programs open on another monitor. It only dips when another program tries to hog the CPU/GPU. For example, if I play a 360p YouTube video in Firefox, it drops to about 40 fps because flash is pretty inefficient. On the other hand, if I play a 720p video in VLC it only dips to about 51 fps.

So displaying a panoramic video on the subscreen shouldn't eat up nearly as many resources as rendering a complex 3D scene all over again. Even though it's only at 480p the second time, that's still 44% more pixels to render if the main scene is 720p. Basically what I'm trying to say is that the bird demo wouldn't necessarily look much better without the subscreen view if the view is simply a panoramic video. Not that the demo NEEDS to look better -- just saying it might not be magically producing such great visuals in real-time on both the TV and the subscreen at once. That is, perhaps it's able to produce such great visuals because the TV view is the only one that's being rendered in real-time.

Agh! Am I making sense? Sorry, I have trouble explaining my thoughts sometimes... Certainly doesn't help when I'm tired... :p

At any rate, I haven't seen good enough footage of the subscreen view to really know, which is why I decided to ask about it.

Oh yeah, I'm not expecting some big jump on the main screen by making the Upad HUD-only or turning it off completely. But as pointed out in a better example than I gave there is a hit even if small depending on the game, but like I mentioned the lower resolutions should reduce that impact. If we see two Upad games, I can see very little motion video types of display being used. And if used it will most likely be simple things.

That is arguable, while I agree that it would be easier, Eye infinity does render to both monitors when it clones, as does Nvidia. Also the screens are not the exact same though the camera angles of the fight are... that is why it's arguable.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/293418-33-cloning-monitors there are some benchmarks of cloning displays and running 3D games, it varies but it does show that these cards do take a performance hit, 30% in farcry 2 would assume that it is being rendered twice, while GTA4 being CPU limited and ram limited more than GPU limited, only shows a 10% hit to performance.

Either way, this does prove that the Wii U rendering to the screen does have an impact on performance, and that the Zelda demo on those early dev kits, could of looked even better if it had not rendered to the sub screen... Mark Rein is right though, that demo is beautiful.

That was the type of info I was trying to find, but couldn't and settled for what I posted. Thanks.
 
OT but I wonder if PS4 will be named something else due to the negative connotation with the number 4 in japan.

I must ask (and pardon my ignorance).. would the gamers over there really be deterred to the point where the sales difference would be statistically significant? Would it be comparable to something like '13' over here?
 
I must ask (and pardon my ignorance).. would the gamers over there really be deterred to the point where the sales difference would be statistically significant? Would it be comparable to something like '13' over here?
The number four:
The number four is considered inauspicious because it is pronounced the same as the word for death (shi). Therefore, one should not make presents that consist of four pieces, etc. In some hotels and hospitals the room number four is skipped.


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I must ask (and pardon my ignorance).. would the gamers over there really be deterred to the point where the sales difference would be statistically significant? Would it be comparable to something like '13' over here?

Really? Wouldn't you buy something because it has the number 13?
 
He didn't, neither did I say he did.

I just hope Nintendo leaves that game at rest for some time at least, and that nobody is going to beg for another port(and I'm afraid this may actually happen).

I suspect we'd get a TP port at this point before an OoT HD remake. Maybe in another 10 years.

Bah. I really want to play battlefield. I've held out on buying it for PC in hopes that a wii u version is planned. BF3: Ultimate Edition including upcoming DLC would be pretty tasty. I hope this isn't considered port begging since we saw BF3 gameplay during the last nintendo E3 conference. Of course that was later denied as a confirmation for anything.
 
I just want Nintendo to grab the online model by the balls. If the Wiiu virtual console starts from the scratch and they add only a few shitty games every week and make you buy everything again for a premium price, then I have zero passion to get the console from day1.
 
I just want Nintendo to grab the online model by the balls. If the Wiiu virtual console starts from the scratch and they add only a few shitty games every week and make you buy everything again for a premium price, then I have zero passion to get the console from day1.

This is truely something we can be afraid of. And it can really make no sense since we have our games already registered in our Club Nintendo accounts. A good start for online (for once with Nintendo), will be having all the Wii VC games availables, and the possibility to recover our accounts and our previously purchased games freely - as well as playing them on the controller only.
 
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