Problem is, publishers set the price and if they make a cross platform game, I don't see why they won't charge the high price for the Wii U version either. The money has been spent and needs to be recuperated.
Wii U Speculation Thread The Third: Casting Dreams in The Castle of Miyamoto
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JosephManderley
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Nintendo could end these negative rumors in an instant (assuming they are false) by simply releasing some info. I really think they should "throw us a bone" at this point.
The longer the silence lasts, the more pressure builds on Nintendo to nail their E3 presentation. An underwhelming E3, after this long blackout, could be really damaging.
The longer the silence lasts, the more pressure builds on Nintendo to nail their E3 presentation. An underwhelming E3, after this long blackout, could be really damaging.
fabricated backlash
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So we moved from on par, to worse than PS360, to stronger, to much stronger, to slightly stronger, to on par in certain areas, to stronger again and back down to worse than PS360.
It's going to be one hell of an E3 when every single bullshit line from any developer, be it negative or positive in regards to the hardware of the WiiU gets 700+ response threads in a matter of hours here on Neogaf.
It's a shame that usually on here you can have reasonable discussions with a majority of users, but once its about Nintendo, Apple or Sony, quite a lot go insane and drag down the discussion to cynical snarky comments.
In Austria the Wii ports of COD cost the same as the HD versions. So expect the same to happen on WiiU if prices go up again.
But don't ask me to buy games new then. Ebay and UK imports it is if they raise prices again.
It's going to be one hell of an E3 when every single bullshit line from any developer, be it negative or positive in regards to the hardware of the WiiU gets 700+ response threads in a matter of hours here on Neogaf.
It's a shame that usually on here you can have reasonable discussions with a majority of users, but once its about Nintendo, Apple or Sony, quite a lot go insane and drag down the discussion to cynical snarky comments.
In Austria the Wii ports of COD cost the same as the HD versions. So expect the same to happen on WiiU if prices go up again.
But don't ask me to buy games new then. Ebay and UK imports it is if they raise prices again.
In that case, it should be very fun to see how consumers handle this.
I have one small reason for hope of some downward pressure on price: if Nintendo sticks at $60 for its own games, it might coerce publishers to stay competitive. Otherwise, I can easily see your scenario happening. Repeatedly.
Smiles and Cries
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I'm late what is this about November 18?
How can a Japan leak tell us US date?
:sings: Rollercoaster! Ou Ou Ou Ouh
How can a Japan leak tell us US date?
:sings: Rollercoaster! Ou Ou Ou Ouh
Wii U is like...a Rollercoaster baby baby, I wanna ride...
Smiles and Cries
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the hype train should have been a rollercoaster we should have know this is Nintendo after all so the news will always be Up and Down because no body knows their secrets
edit: why is GI Biz not a banned site by now :|
edit: why is GI Biz not a banned site by now :|
TheExplodingHead
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Seems strange to imagine it would be weaker, but it wouldn't be impossible in some areas. As long as they keep it priced according and have great Nintendo IP I'm game as always.
DXB-KNIGHT
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I expect 20,000 posts per minute!
All it would take is the U being lesser in one single spec, and they'll shout from the heaventops: "Confirmed: Wii U weaker than 360!" Watch.
Yeah. It's kinda sad because I come here for good discussion, but it's hard as hell to jump into these discussions, but I do find the Nintendo discussion easier to get into than the Sony ones.
Strange. Wii versions of CoD games were $10 cheaper, which was always a nice perk for buying the Wii version. I wonder if NoA will set the MSRP to a certain level.
Wasn't there a rumor recently that the NDA on Wii U and its games had ended? Why haven't we gotten any info at all?
Didn't Reggie promise more information about the system in the lead up to E3? Why is it that we still know nothing, absolutely nothing whatsoever?
Such a long blackout might end up hurting Nintendo more than it benefits them.
Didn't Reggie promise more information about the system in the lead up to E3? Why is it that we still know nothing, absolutely nothing whatsoever?
Such a long blackout might end up hurting Nintendo more than it benefits them.
SolidSnakex
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Didn't we know that 360 games would be $60 right out the gate? If so then I can't see them selling early Wii U games at $60 and then suddenly attempting to charge $10-20 extra a year later for the sequel to that game. Even early on with the 360 publishers were charging $60 for PS2/Xbox/GC ports to the 360. So I think that they'd have to start out pricing their Wii U games at that new pricepoint (if it's going to happen) instead of trying to change things a year later.
Smiles and Cries
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Countdown to what?
Oh it will happen, you can count on it. Some developer will make a cross platform game, simply porting the Wii U version across and putting a static HUD on the Subscreen and it will be game over for Nintendo, especially in the press.
1) It was very much an unfounded rumour
2) Reggie is full of shit. That is in fact in his job description.
3) Nintendo doesn't care, and live in there own world of fairies and pixies where they can do no wrong. Don't worry, if it goes belly up on them they will apologise and tell us how it didn't pan out how they expected.
Nintendo's end of year financials.
I hope not. Considering how market savvy Nintendo have been since the 3DS's botched launch, I really hope they continue that same aggressive stance with the Wii U, and that they do not return to the complacent cruise control mode of the Wii/DS days.1) It was very much an unfounded rumour
2) Reggie is full of shit. That is in fact in his job description.
3) Nintendo doesn't care, and live in there own world of fairies and pixies where they can do no wrong. Don't worry, if it goes belly up on them they will apologise and tell us how it didn't pan out how they expected.
Nintendo's end of year financials.
Are we expecting new Wii U information at Nintendo's year end fiscal report?
You wouldn't happen to know what time of day that'll be, eh? I want to see if I'm working on that day.
Ha! In that case, the time doesn't matter - I'm off that day. Sweet.
Thursdayton: ahoy!
There really should be no reason for the new Nintendo console to be behind 7 year old tech in ANY respect, unless they really really cut a lot of corners
Smiles and Cries
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Link?
Smiles and Cries
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on what page did you guys talk about this release date rumor? cause I don't see it
I mean I've seen it posted but no one talked about it
I mean I've seen it posted but no one talked about it
DXB-KNIGHT
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have they said the same about being weaker that 360?
I'm sorry, we can't comment on our October launching weak console.
Smiles and Cries
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I don't want the WiiU to launch on a Sunday
because I want Amazon to do launch day delivery :|
because I want Amazon to do launch day delivery :|
I thought all Nintendo systems launched on Sunday?
The last few did. The Gamecube, the DS, the Wii and the 3DS.
Eh, I really don't think so. E3 2008 was terrible yet it was the most successful year for Nintendo.
Yup. This is why I don't rely on online shopping for Launch Day. I take time off of work, and don't want to waste a vacation day waiting for UPS to arrive. And that's with the sometimes generous assumption that they're doing Launch Day delivery, instead of the system arriving on the following day (usually in the afternoon).
So I wait in line.
I'm hoping that camping weather wil be nice this time around so that me and all the kiddy folks in line (Nintendo lines always seem to be full of non-parental older guys and gals, 20s & 30s) don't shiver our butts off.
Then again, with the way weather has been as of late, maybe I should be more worried/annoyed by hot weather. Ugh.
So I wait in line.
I'm hoping that camping weather wil be nice this time around so that me and all the kiddy folks in line (Nintendo lines always seem to be full of non-parental older guys and gals, 20s & 30s) don't shiver our butts off.
Then again, with the way weather has been as of late, maybe I should be more worried/annoyed by hot weather. Ugh.
Clearly
I won't post every time a new article state that the Wii U is underpowered, it's exhausting
My god. If it's that good.. I. I.. *shivers*
I'm going to enjoy the dichotomy on display this year:
attendees running like hell to get to Nintendo's exhibit every morning at the opening, the highest level of enthusiasm is centered around what Nintendo is bringing, their conference is a clear winner over the other two's, etc etc.
..and western gaming media's response? "Meh. What's the big deal? And when are they going third-party already?"
One would think that one or two of the major sites would notice this enthusiasm and curb the elitist attitude, seeing as how there's a very hardcore (in the traditional sense) audience waiting to be catered-to. But nope.
Nice. I like.
The thing with this years' E3 is the sheer amount of promise.
Nintendo have promised better online.
They've promised solid third party support.
They've promised more games directed at the core audience.
They've promised full HD graphics.
They've promised a new IP.
That's a lot to live up to. If they meet all this, then it'll blow everyone else out of the water. If it's somewhat under par, then we'll be left a bit disappointed.
Potentially, here's what could appear at E3:
This could be huge.
Nintendo have promised better online.
They've promised solid third party support.
They've promised more games directed at the core audience.
They've promised full HD graphics.
They've promised a new IP.
That's a lot to live up to. If they meet all this, then it'll blow everyone else out of the water. If it's somewhat under par, then we'll be left a bit disappointed.
Potentially, here's what could appear at E3:
- Miyamoto's new IP
- Pikmin 3
- RETRO's new core franchise
- DICE/Crytek/EPIC support in some form
- Definitive multiplat versions (think GTAV)
- Robust and exciting online experiences, maybe with Steam support!
- A teaser of the next Mario title
- Some SSBU info
This could be huge.
I already thought it was lame for eurogamer to take the release date rumour but that was not enough, we had a few others and now ign. Really, the comment was already made by different members, but a japanese retailer having US release date, didn't it make them think a bit?
Also ubisoft is the first third party on 3ds!
Also ubisoft is the first third party on 3ds!
One big kicker for me is this: I don't know what I want most of all.
Last time around was easy: Twilight Princess was coming. I lnew I'd get home and play Zelda for a week. But this time has me unsure, between Miyamoto's new baby, Retro's secret game, and Pikmin 3.
I guess Pikmin would be first by default, just because it's a known entity that I adore. But who knows? There could be something else that is unveiled that makes me say, "Sorry, Captain Olimar.. you'll have to wait a few weeks before we spend some quality time together."
This show's promise and peril, the high-stakes nature of it, the uncertainty of what moves Nintendo's competition are making in the shadows.. it makes for a very intriguing E3 buildup. Better than any soap opera!
It's so risky.
And yeah, I think seeing what RETRO has done will be the biggest excitement for me. One of Nintendo's most talented studios working on a new 'core' title with a multitude of employees brought from some of the best companies around the world, PLUS the creativity and magic that RETRO applies to all their games? Mmm.
Then again, Pikmin could be a surprise hit for me - it could be a graphical showcase for the system, and I can think of so many cool ways to use the Upad.
But I like the dark horses of the conference too, the third party exclusives, for instance.
AAAAAAAH.
And yeah, I think seeing what RETRO has done will be the biggest excitement for me. One of Nintendo's most talented studios working on a new 'core' title with a multitude of employees brought from some of the best companies around the world, PLUS the creativity and magic that RETRO applies to all their games? Mmm.
Then again, Pikmin could be a surprise hit for me - it could be a graphical showcase for the system, and I can think of so many cool ways to use the Upad.
But I like the dark horses of the conference too, the third party exclusives, for instance.
AAAAAAAH.
Nintendo will be looking to combat a lot of the negativity surrounding the WiiU at E3 (pretty much the opposite of what happened with the 3DS), so hopefully that'll result in an awesome showing for the console.
As for 3DS, as long as they have info/release date for Paper Mario, I'm happy. I mean come on, it was announced at E3 2010 and all we've had since then is 2 short trailers! But a 3DS Zelda would be nice too (since that means Majoras Mask 3D is closer lol).
The long wait is the hard part!
As for 3DS, as long as they have info/release date for Paper Mario, I'm happy. I mean come on, it was announced at E3 2010 and all we've had since then is 2 short trailers! But a 3DS Zelda would be nice too (since that means Majoras Mask 3D is closer lol).
The long wait is the hard part!
That's going to be the game that every parent buys for their child when it comes time to do their Christmas shopping. Very easy pick. Nintendo would be foolish to not have it out this Fall around Launch.
I need to buy some of their stock..
DefectiveReject
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If the Wii U is less powerful in any meaningful way to the current HD Twins it means Nintendo is going to play serious hardball with the pricing when their successors release. Don't do it Nintendo, I still have faith you will at least match the current-gen
Yeah, I have a feeling they are going to try and hit $299 or $349 (Maybe even have 2 or 3 SKU's- 1 with 1 Wii Upad, 1 with WiiSportsU and a download voucher and 1 with 2 pads)
Cater for more demograhics
I think their plan is they won't compete in the power race, they'll have the WiiU do HD very well, it'll have everything a developer needs to put out a good quality HD game.
Then when the other 2 come out next year with what will seemingly be $400+ consoles (even subsidised) they can put up packages, increase value in packs, have Mario Kart and Dragon Quest ready to go.
Teach the rabid fanboys and egotistical developers who want 8GB of ram and quintuplet core mega graphicz, that they didn't learn the lesson this gen!
I think the console is aimed at getting Japanese development and console buying, back on track whilst catering to the Wests insatiability for HD Content
ShellyDeKiller
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Wii U may be 1st console to run MMORPGs 'without making sacrifices' - Funcom ( Age Of Conan and Secret World developer)
thinks the tablet controller is "perfect" for the genre
thinks the tablet controller is "perfect" for the genre
http://www.computerandvideogames.co...ole-to-run-mmorpgs-without-making-sacrifices/
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