PotionBleue
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The thing most people seem to overlook is that you can use the GamePad's sound output to basically transform it into a wireless headset while playing Wii games on the TV.
Wii U Update adds Off TV play for Wii mode (but you can't use gamepad to control)
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Got all of those. Fuck cheat states or Miiverse. Great news.
Come on Nintendo. Release the god damn white Wii U 32GB over here. Will buy it immediately.
truestatic
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Another creative use: I've got it on my monitor with the gamepad's headphone jack to my computer's line out. It's just too bad you can't mirror sound to the gamepad when it's in Wii U mode.
Starwolf_UK
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I'll be the one to ask for the PAL users. What happens when you try to run a 50Hz game such as Madworld, Little King's Story or 90% of VC games? Does it scale the image or just fail catastrophically.
The_Joker1721
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This can be another update away from being amazing. Until then I expected to still use wii controls. Xenoblade while watching some American football will be awesome. Actually. Any game using classic controller will be great to play. I won't be upset (even then not too upset) until nintendo themselves state that gamepad as a classic controller will not happen at all.
Because you can't unmap it and it will block the first controller-port all the time. How do you unplug the Gamepad? Some games would ask you to unplug or change the controller and don't continue. A software solutions means to change the Wii's OS and it is hard to guess, how problematic this solution would be like.
Also a good point.
GC controller and gamepad are different, afaik the gamepad triggers are binary (pressed or not pressed) not analogue like they used to be, well i think they are anyway, not at home to check atm.
Simple fact of the matter is that they will not do anything at all that might allow something out of the Wii Mode sandbox. If they want to let the gamepad controls be used they would have to somehow tell the Wii Mode about the gamepad, but basically all WiiU stuff is powered off when the Wii mode is activated. Right now just outputting to screen shouldn't provide any more attack vectors as they can simply nab the screen once its output and convert it, nothing fancy to access from within the sandbox.
They are being very very careful about what they do because "homebrew" is so widespread on the Wii, they don't want their backwards compatibility to provide the attack vector for hacking the WiiU. Nor do we really as otherwise we might end up with another PS3 OtherOS overreaction on our hands :/
All in all will be nice to play Xenoblade Chronicles on a screen that doesn't end up looking massively blurry like it does on my TV
deddonpachi
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i would buy xenoblade in a heartbeat, if i could use the gamepad to control it!
We make points, how this is not an easy task and a good idea from Nintendo to at least release a complicity function Off-Screen-Mode for the Wii-Mode. Using the Wii U-GamePad or Pro-Controller would be an bonus and hopefully comes with another update. But it's great to have a good feature now then a better later.
You mean people are using their brains instead of jumping in the hate wagons?
Pancakes R Us
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Hmmm...is it possible to now run the homebrew channel via the Gamepad due to this new update?
Edit: good news on the speedier OS front, would love to read more impressions. It's a shame that it took nearly a year following release to fix this shit. Imagine if a company like Apple or Google tried to pull this, there'd be riots. I'm still not convinced on Wii U yet, waiting for around $150ish which I think it could hit late this year or early next.
Edit: good news on the speedier OS front, would love to read more impressions. It's a shame that it took nearly a year following release to fix this shit. Imagine if a company like Apple or Google tried to pull this, there'd be riots. I'm still not convinced on Wii U yet, waiting for around $150ish which I think it could hit late this year or early next.
If that hasn't changed you can feel with the rumble when you're hovering over the button.
Not the best solution but workable?
You can directly boot to the Wii menu by holding B on startup.
The problem the Wii-Mode isn't even activatable and you are forced back to the Wii U-Menu without a TV ...
Really? Ok, properly i am wrong. Even better.
PotionBleue
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Did you try changing Wii U output to something else than HDMI? iirc someone in the other thread said there is such workaround, though still clumsy.
Ah!
Since I never used it that way I expected it to be different...
Did you try plugging a RVB cable instead of an HDMI ?
With RVB or component WiiU should have no way to know if it's plugged in or not, no?
peanutbutterlatte
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I'm sorry, nobody can think it's coincidence that Nintendo started releasing Gamepad versions of Virtual Console titles readily available on Wii and you can't control Off-TV Wii games with the Gamepad. Technical issues? Perhaps. Technical issues they could overcome if they really wanted to and it didn't eat into a tasty profit? Probably.
I hope this works with just the GamePad. I'll try it as soon as my update finishes installing.
I'd... still go through with it
Or really maybe it's a technical issue,
if you have the game in Wiimode it only cost 1buck or something.
I know they're not in Wii/DS mode in profit but come on now.
TheCongressman1
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Wouldn't surprise me. I'll just stick with dolphin if that's the case.
GhostTrick
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IMO, they could allow to use the gamepad by upgrading the Gamepad's own firmware to work as a classic controller in Wii Mode. That would be totally possible.
As some people stated, it's just to avoid losing sales.
As some people stated, it's just to avoid losing sales.
Hmm...they probably would have to mask it as a WiiMote with an attached Classic Controller which could lead to quite a mess since the GamePad doesn't have WiiMote functionality. Aside from that, I'm not quite sure if they even can update the GamePad itself.
TheCongressman1
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They can. It has it's own firmware.
What the f... people? If it was the case why the backward compatibility when they could have seold you the same games for full price again.
Jahhh...
This is still a very weak argument. If this would be the case, then they never would have included the Off-TV- Feature for Wii-Mode to begin with.People still can buy the Wii-Version, play Off-TV and don't mind the controller. It's not like Nintendo would lose any money anyway. They get it through the Wii- or Wii U-Shop so whatever.
Rizsparky
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Some people prefer the miiverse and saves state integration of the Wii U VC though.
Interceptor
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Great update. My solution for the gamepad problem: Patch the gamepad itself instead of enabling it at some kind of OS level. Just add a functionality for the gamepad to act as a wiimote with an attached classic controler. Bam, done. You could even use it on a regular Wii or PC! 
Without the streaming of course.
That's what I wanted to hear. It could be worth playing on the GamePad's smaller screen if games look crisper than on my HDTV.
Some people on here are actually devs. Never forget that.
Nintendo doesn't use software compatibility. Which is great for superb compatibility, but it's much more difficult to "hack" new features in.
Could. Sure. But it's not easy. Especially when you have to avoid any compatibility issues resulting from this.
Sure. They never implemented Off TV play for Virtual Console titles, so that they can sell them again. On top of that they even wanted customers to buy everything again for full price.
Oh wait...
Yup.
That was one of my personal complains. Fucking up Wii Dolby Pro Logic II backward compatibility to avoid license fees. Glad that they finally added it back. And dual-audio is also nice. Which would mean that I would definitely get at least stereo + HDMI picture out of it.
SporeCrawler
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Booted up pandoras tower.. Looks beautiful. I wouldnt have touched the game till the next drought but now i can play it on my bed!
There is a 0% chance of the price dropping to anywhere near $150 "late this year" or "early next". They just dropped the price recently.... and that'd be a huge cut.
UncleSporky
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What about the games that start up and say "please disconnect your classic controller" and refuse to boot until you do so? What about the games that force you to use the Wii remote pointer for the menus?
How do you adequately communicate this to consumers who will simply expect to be able to use the pad for every game?
AndyMoogle
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And customizable controls. Not to mention 60Hz versions for us in Europe.
Damn! Please Nintendo it must be possible to make at least all Games that you can play with only the Controller Pro (or how that thing was called) playable with the Gamepad controls.
I mean it should really be posssible for that thing to act as an Controller Pro.
I have Xenoblade, Last Story and the Pandoras Tower here waiting for that.
I mean it should really be posssible for that thing to act as an Controller Pro.
I have Xenoblade, Last Story and the Pandoras Tower here waiting for that.
just bought a wiiu
can i play Zelda skysword (forgot the name) on my wii u screen?
Yes, but you still need a Wii Remote Plus to do so.
Pancakes R Us
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There's nothing to stop retailer discounting. I don't expect an official Nintendo price cut again until at least the second half of next year.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Rhythm Heaven seems the perfect fit for this.
Its a game that only relies on two buttons on the wiimote, and playing on the gamepad brings none of the associated HD lag that makes rhythm games a nightmare.
Its a game that only relies on two buttons on the wiimote, and playing on the gamepad brings none of the associated HD lag that makes rhythm games a nightmare.
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