It's an outdoor tournament, he's fucking right.
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Wimbledon 2013 |OT|
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It's an outdoor tournament, he's fucking right.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Its going to be dark. Anyone with a brain knew light would effect this match. Roof shouldve been on before match started.
Janowicz will flourish in the indoor conditions.
I don't think so. There's no way they could've played one more set. I just don't know why they bothered consulting Murray, it's not his decision.
The final has to be fucking epic to top that match. Just give Djokovic the title and call it a day.
Vivalaraza
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JJ is moaning about nothing.
It's a weak decision. The light is fine and the history of the tournament shows matches go well beyond this in this light.
Janowicz has done what's best for him by moaning about it endlessly but the decision is stupid.
Onikaan
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We get it, you dislike Murray.
There is at least a good half an hour of good light left if not more. Its an outdoor tournament, roof should be open as long as possible.
these wounds won't seem to heal
The momentum had already shifted before the roof closed in last year's final. Federer had played sublimely to tie the match and was 40-0 up on his serve when it closed.
Exterminieren
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Any serious player would absolutely be pissed at this decision. Murray may have reacted more strongly than others, but there's not a professional alive who wouldn't be furious.
Why start a set when you most probably will need to stop in the middle of it to close the roof because it will get too dark in the middle of it. It's not about if there's enough light now, it's if there's enough light to start and finish the set. If the play would have been stopped in a middle of a key game\point to close the roof when it could\should have been before the started then i would be upset; and that's when 'momentum' is really key.
Anybody else gets the flashback from this?
I lol'd
PS3GamerKyle
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I honestly think the stoppage time + the roof favors Janowicz... Murray was all flustered when the referee came over. Janowicz's serve will be much more precise with the indoor conditions.
Hopefully this match goes the way of Wimbledon 2012 final. When they closed the roof, Roger's game exploded and he took the match winning the next two sets.
Hopefully this match goes the way of Wimbledon 2012 final. When they closed the roof, Roger's game exploded and he took the match winning the next two sets.
Rafa=FedKilla
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What the fuck is this outdoor tournament argument nonsense? This is why they have the fucking roof.
Vivalaraza
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I don't think you understand.
You don't play to the end of sets.
You play to the conditions.
Right now the conditions are fine.
Coldnoodle
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Fuck that noise. The match has already been scheduled. It's happening, whether you like it or not. There's 20 more minutes of light, tops. It makes way more sense to close the roof between sets than during a set. By your logic they should delay the rest of the match until tomorrow.
The roof is there primarily for the rain to avoid undue delays.
peanutbutterlatte
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But why not get the best out of those 20 minutes of light? Lots can happen in 20 minutes.
quick, record something
Maybe the light is not as fine as we think? Todays cameras do have some way to improve lighting for broadcasts iirc. I dont know... I think it would be worse if they decided to close the roof midway through the next set.
They have a roof because it rains in London. It's one of the things we are known for in the UK.
Onikaan
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Deleted member 231381
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Closing the roof changes the nature of the tournament. This is not an indoor tournament. It makes more sense to play even half a set in the correct conditions, rather than a set less. Delaying it til tomorrow is too much, that's what the roof is for, but given a choice between a 20 minute delay now, during the light, and later, now is stupid. You're just waaaay too salty, it's a little unsettling. What did Murray do, make love to your wife?
You do realise a) it's a clear day and b) they've played until 9:50 before on centre court pre roof.
It's an outdoor tournament play outdoors. They easily, very easily could have gotten another set in.
Gareth Bale
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Whoever she is, she's boring as fuck
Its cloudy where I am in the UK but still bright as anything. London looks to have reasonably clear skies so is likely nice still too.
Ravensmash
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They could have played another set without the roof. As commentary team were saying, there's been plenty of matches on court later than this.
Murray is absolutely right to be annoyed.
Murray is absolutely right to be annoyed.
I also found this one:
http://i50.tiny,pic.com/23rwmsy.png
Remove the coma.
That match was such a classic, one of the best I've ever seen.
No, it really doesn't. There seems to be some misunderstanding over this point.
You play without the roof until the very moment it becomes unfeasible to - either due to rain or if it is too dark to continue playing.
When starting sets you should think about if you can finish it. It happened with the Kvitova-Makarova match. The 3rd set shouldn't have been started and the match stopped due to bad light.
If it's within reason that the set won't be concluded before the light gets too bad then the set shouldn't start and they should close the roof.
In this particular case closing the roof is not completely unwarranted as Murray acted. And if other top players would have been upset about the decision, i doubt they would have expressed and 'battled' it as Murray did.
Unless this set suddenly takes an hour, they'd have been fine.
Haha, no.
Vivalaraza
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There was more than 20 mins light anyways.
They stopped 10/15 mins ago as it is.
Doesn't get really dark in London till about 9.30/9.45 these days.
Anyway, decision has been made. Completely understandable why Muzzah was annoyed...way too many people blinded by their opinion of him in this thread.
If it was Murray asking the umpire every sitdown about the roof they'd all be making a big deal of that.
PS3GamerKyle
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So, you would have play stopped at 925, at the near peak of darkness, to have the roof opened? That moment would more than likely occur at a crucial part of the set. By opening the roof now you are allowing equal play for both players.
During this break, I just want to say that the crowd is really ridiculous and I think Andy was having flashbacks to the 2012 final.
John Dunbar
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would they have closed the roof if was forecast to rain in 30 minutes?
Yes.
frankie_baby
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At 9.25 the match would likely have been finished
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