Windows 10 Troubleshooting Thread

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I am currently using Windows 7 and appreciate the simplicity. I tried Windows 8 when setting up my dad's work computer like a month ago and it was horrifying. It looked like a gigantic Windows Phone with the "app store" and all the other crap. I had to search for the control panel and use that to make the PC usable.

I have 3 questions about Windows 10.

1. How similar is the OS to Windows 7, Windows Vista and Windows XP? I really don't like the giant phone look and I don't want to see any of that ever. I am also thinking of upgrading my dad's PC if it will be easier for him (he was on Windows Vista before and he is an old man - poor guy is probably still suffering through Windows 8).

2. I heard there were some problems with using the free upgrade and that by using it, Microsoft would force updates on my PC. If this is true, this would be disastrous when trying to get school work done and a big pain when trying to watch stuff.

3. What is with this reserve nonsense that is on the corner of my screen? They don't mean to say that I have a limited time to upgrade, right? It's just preordering a free thing, right?!

Bonus question: What happened to Windows 9?
 
Walpurgis said:
3. What is with this reserve nonsense that is on the corner of my screen? They don't mean to say that I have a limited time to upgrade, right? It's just preordering a free thing, right?!
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You have a year to take advantage of the free upgrade.
 
Walpurgis said:
I am currently using Windows 7 and appreciate the simplicity. I tried Windows 8 when setting up my dad's work computer like a month ago and it was horrifying. It looked like a gigantic Windows Phone with the "app store" and all the other crap. I had to search for the control panel and use that to make the PC usable.

I have 3 questions about Windows 10.

1. How similar is the OS to Windows 7, Windows Vista and Windows XP? I really don't like the giant phone look and I don't want to see any of that ever. I am also thinking of upgrading my dad's PC if it will be easier for him (he was on Windows Vista before and he is an old man - poor guy is probably still suffering through Windows 8).

2. I heard there were some problems with using the free upgrade and that by using it, Microsoft would force updates on my PC. If this is true, this would be disastrous when trying to get school work done and a big pain when trying to watch stuff.

3. What is with this reserve nonsense that is on the corner of my screen? They don't mean to say that I have a limited time to upgrade, right? It's just preordering a free thing, right?!

Bonus question: What happened to Windows 9?
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  1. It's basically like windows 7 but with a new UI theme and a new start menu. The full screen tablet like experience is completely optional in Windows 10. It doesn't feel mobile phone like any more under default settings.
  2. I haven't had any updates forced on me yet, but Windows 10 doesn't have a menu option to turn off updates. It's just automatic or prompt to schedule a restart. There is some potential for issues with Windows 10 automatically updating and installing drivers which could cause issues, particularly with graphics drivers.
  3. The reservation just means the Windows 10 update will automatically download and be ready to install at some point after the release date. You have until July 2016 to actually get the free upgrade.
 
Walpurgis said:
I am currently using Windows 7 and appreciate the simplicity. I tried Windows 8 when setting up my dad's work computer like a month ago and it was horrifying. It looked like a gigantic Windows Phone with the "app store" and all the other crap. I had to search for the control panel and use that to make the PC usable.

I have 3 questions about Windows 10.

1. How similar is the OS to Windows 7, Windows Vista and Windows XP? I really don't like the giant phone look and I don't want to see any of that ever. I am also thinking of upgrading my dad's PC if it will be easier for him (he was on Windows Vista before and he is an old man - poor guy is probably still suffering through Windows 8).

2. I heard there were some problems with using the free upgrade and that by using it, Microsoft would force updates on my PC. If this is true, this would be disastrous when trying to get school work done and a big pain when trying to watch stuff.

3. What is with this reserve nonsense that is on the corner of my screen? They don't mean to say that I have a limited time to upgrade, right? It's just preordering a free thing, right?!

Bonus question: What happened to Windows 9?
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1. User interface is by default closer to Windows 7 than Windows 8. Then again, if you configure Windows 8 well you basically don't have to use that other layout.

2. It is not instantly, it just means that you don't have the option of not installing updates forever.

3 Year for the free upgrade.

Bonus: My guess is marketing that made them skip the number 9, there was some rumor that says that they wanted to skip it because of legacy programs that check "if version starts with 9 do stuff" because of multiple Windows versions starting with 9 but I don't believe that reason.
 
decided to install w10 on a 8" tablet and the experience is pretty bad. looks like a locked down w8, feels claustrophobic and is completely unusable. and gray everywhere, fiess someone was missing windows 98.

for me this is easily the ugliest windows microsoft ever released. they also took a huge step back when it comes to usability on tablets. it's pretty much as I feared, this is to tablets what windows 8 was to desktop pcs.
 
Bunta said:
You have a year to take advantage of the free upgrade.
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GJS said:
  1. It's basically like windows 7 but with a new UI theme and a new start menu. The full screen tablet like experience is completely optional in Windows 10. It doesn't feel mobile phone like any more under default settings.
  2. I haven't had any updates forced on me yet, but Windows 10 doesn't have a menu option to turn off updates. It's just automatic or prompt to schedule a restart. There is some potential for issues with Windows 10 automatically updating and installing drivers which could cause issues, particularly with graphics drivers.
  3. The reservation just means the Windows 10 update will automatically download and be ready to install at some point after the release date. You have until July 2016 to actually get the free upgrade.
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Prophet Steve said:
1. User interface is by default closer to Windows 7 than Windows 8. Then again, if you configure Windows 8 well you basically don't have to use that other layout.

2. It is not instantly, it just means that you don't have the option of not installing updates forever.

3 Year for the free upgrade.

Bonus: My guess is marketing that made them skip the number 9, there was some rumor that says that they wanted to skip it because of legacy programs that check "if version starts with 9 do stuff" because of multiple Windows versions starting with 9 but I don't believe that reason.
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Thanks guys. I was worried about the computer randomly installing updates, but if I can postpone them and download them a week later or whatever, that would be just fine since I always update eventually. I'll try this on my PC next week.
PHOENIXZERO said:
7 ate it.
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LOL
 
Knight77 said:
Can anyone clarify this to me?

I have Windows 8.1 and I want to upgrade to W10 in the cleanest way possible, I'm also ok with make my backups and reinstall everything from zero.
Based on this... upgrading to W10 choosing to do not keep anything from previous OS is the same of upgrading and then choose "clean/refresh" ? Or are two different things? If yes..which one will give me the "cleanest" W10 ?

Thanks !
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Guys I swear I won't up the question anymore but can anybody give me an answer about this? Tomorrow morning I'd like to upgrade and I wouldn't like to spend time and then discover I wasted it doing the wrong thing...
 
Knight77 said:
Guys I swear I won't up the question anymore but can anybody give me an answer about this? Tomorrow morning I'd like to upgrade and I wouldn't like to spend time and then discover I wasted it doing the wrong thing...
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Upgrade from inside the OS, then click reset in the OS. Done. You have to do the upgrade with all the settings and everything first though.
 
Knight77 said:
Guys I swear I won't up the question anymore but can anybody give me an answer about this? Tomorrow morning I'd like to upgrade and I wouldn't like to spend time and then discover I wasted it doing the wrong thing...
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The "cleanest" way imo is to do a fresh install from scratch. Upgrades are often just as good, especially from 8.1 there shouldn't be any problems. But to me its always better to do it from scratch.

Ive occasionally run into problems when upgrading. Not often by any means, but it has happened. Programs not opening after upgrading and whatnot. Thats even less likely to happen on fresh installs.
 
Mechazawa said:
So, forced Nvidia drivers are stupid and all, but the ones Windows pushed out to me were peculiar in that they fucked up my second monitor. My second monitor went black when Windows apparently automatically downloaded them and on reboot, started giving me weird graphical corruption, almost like there was some busted vsync or something on the monitor.

I deleted them and downloaded the latest ones on Nvidia's website and now everything's back to normal.

Maybe it was just an issue of of Windows putting 10 drivers on top of 7 drivers I had or something, but that's dumb. Don't do that Windows.
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Oh, sweet. Windows decided to push out their Nvidia driver update again. And it broke my second monitor again. Guess I'm going to have to uninstall Nvidia drivers every single day until they fix this.
 
VincentMatts said:
The "cleanest" way imo is to do a fresh install from scratch. Upgrades are often just as good, especially from 8.1 there shouldn't be any problems. But to me its always better to do it from scratch.

Ive occasionally run into problems when upgrading. Not often by any means, but it has happened. Programs not opening after upgrading and whatnot. Thats even less likely to happen on fresh installs.
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I know it but looks like I can't go from scratch (to be activated) I need to upgrade first.
Is there a way I can really go W10 from scratch?

I am also in MBR partition mode and I'd like to have GPT....
 
Hasney said:
Upgrade from inside the OS, then click reset in the OS. Done. You have to do the upgrade with all the settings and everything first though.
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Yes but upgrading without keeping anything and making the reset...do they take you to the same thing? If yes then when I upgrade I just select to do not keep anything...
 
Syriel said:
In your case you might need to run through WU just to get the update app.

It is a regular WU, just like any other patch.
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yeah i figured out the issue. it did have to do with windows updates. theres an option to get 'updates for other microsoft products' or something like that. When I clicked that I got a couple of more updates I hadn't gotten prior, restarted it and had the little app just like with my laptop.

Thanks for the heads up, that little thing can be easily missed in the settings
 
Hasney said:
Your files and everything will still be there no matter how you upgrade.
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Ehm...don't think so. I helped a friend and when installing we have chosen to do not keep anything and non of his file was kept after the upgrade. I'm talking about

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Knight77 said:
Ehm...don't think so. I helped a friend and when installing we have chosen to do not keep anything and non of his file was kept after the upgrade. I'm talking about

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Which build was that? I didn't see that screen on my system, I just got what was essentially migrate Windows stuff and programs or don't; my files would be there regardless.
 
Anyone else having problems with the store at the moment?

Since the app updated yesterday it's been really screwy - some stuff will update but this tends to happen for most everything now

JO41SBI.jpg


The blank square was once Twitter and now it's... gone?

Resetting the store and logging in / out does nothing to fix it.
 
Mechazawa said:
Oh, sweet. Windows decided to push out their Nvidia driver update again. And it broke my second monitor again. Guess I'm going to have to uninstall Nvidia drivers every single day until they fix this.
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Just did the same to me.
Walked away for 10 minutes to make a cup of tea and windows decided to use that time to update my graphics driver.

I have rolled back to 353.30 using device manager and that has removed the latest update from windows update for now.
 
Knight77 said:
Yes but upgrading without keeping anything and making the reset...do they take you to the same thing? If yes then when I upgrade I just select to do not keep anything...
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Keeping nothing is the same as installing from scratch.

You'll just have the OS. Nothing else.
 
How is the new NVIDIA driver breaking people's second monitor? Is it just not being detected or what?

No problems here and my second monitor is as old as the hills with a single D-Sub port.
 
Knight77 said:
Yes but upgrading without keeping anything and making the reset...do they take you to the same thing? If yes then when I upgrade I just select to do not keep anything...
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When I upgraded one of my systems I was given a few choices as far as which programs/files/settings I wanted to keep. It appears to me that selecting "keep nothing", or the equivalent, is akin to doing a fresh install because it basically moves your current system files to the "Windows.old" folder, and wipes everything else. The only difference from a more traditional fresh install was that my drive wasn't formatted clean prior to the installation. So, as far as I'm concerned, the end result is (for all intents and purposes) a "fresh installation" of Windows 10.

Now, if you wanted to change the drive to GPT then you might want to do it differently. My drive was already GPT, so it wasn't a concern for me.
 
The driver they keep pushing isn't even on the Nvidia site, isn't WHQL and the topic about it on the nvidia forum was deleted, I don't really want that on my system yet.
 
GJS said:
No one knows definitely if continued use of Windows 7 keys is possible or if Microsoft marks them as disabled.

If you need to do a windows 10 reinstall on a machine which has had windows 10 activated on it but can't boot for some reason, you can do a clean install and skip the CD key step.
Your windows 7 key won't be of any use in a Windows 10 install.

Windows 10 will then recognise the PC and activate automatically once it is connected to the internet.
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Nice. Thanks for the detailed breakdown.
 
BluenoseGames said:
I still don't have the reserve Icon, yet I have a legit copy of Windows 8.1 and recent updates installed. Any ideas?
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Check what I did. Go to Windows Update. Go to 'change settings'. Make sure you have everything checked that deals with any kind of update, and keep refreshing update until you're out. Update, restart, update restart. You should eventually have it.
 
BluenoseGames said:
I still don't have the reserve Icon, yet I have a legit copy of Windows 8.1 and recent updates installed. Any ideas?
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I just had to wait.

I built a new pc with Windows 8.1. I installed all updates and had to wait over a week before I got the notification.

Also, I have a question about Windows 10 since I plan on upgrading to it when it releases.

When using multiple monitors does it still have the option to change each monitor's background individually?

I was so happy to find out I could do this when I started using 8.1.

I know it's not an important feature at all but I'm kind of obsessed with desktop backgrounds. :p
 
ShyGuy0504 said:
I just had to wait.

I built a new pc with Windows 8.1. I installed all updates and had to wait over a week before I got the notification.

Also, I have a question about Windows 10 since I plan on upgrading to it when it releases.

When using multiple monitors does it still have the option to change each monitor's background individually?

I was so happy to find out I could do this when I started using 8.1.

I know it's not an important feature at all but I'm kind of obsessed with desktop backgrounds. :p
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You can still do it but the Desktop background page of the control panel is not there by default, you have to open it from command prompt currently. Once that is open you can right click and assign wallpapers to a specific monitor.
 
GJS said:
You can still do it but the Desktop background page of the control panel is not there by default, you have to open it from command prompt currently. Once that is open you can right click and assign wallpapers to a specific monitor.
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That seems strange. I wonder why it's not there by default?

Oh well at least it can still be done.
 
So there's no current way to stop Windows Update to force Nvidia autoupdates to users right? We've just gotta hope either Nvidia or MS fixes this eventually?
 
My Windows Installation Creation Tool is stuck at 0% of download. Tried different languages, different versions, x64 and x86. All 0%. Great.

Microsoft solution for this problem just make the program unusable (you cant select any language and thus cant download anything).

I am back to square zero.

Tried to insert my win8 key in the win10, but it didnt work as expected.
 
My build decided to start having problems tonight. I couldn't do anything once logged in on the desktop. I tried task manager and it would just lock up.

Now after a few reboots I'm getting this. Tried a reset but it won't complete. Shall I just delete the partition and start over? Believe it was 10130.

Startup Repair diagnosis and repair log
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Number of repair attempts: 1

Session details
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System Disk = \Device\Harddisk0
Windows directory = C:\WINDOWS
AutoChk Run = 0
Number of root causes = 1

Test Performed:
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Name: Check for updates
Result: Completed successfully. Error code = 0x0
Time taken = 0 ms

Test Performed:
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Name: System disk test
Result: Completed successfully. Error code = 0x0
Time taken = 0 ms

Test Performed:
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Name: Disk failure diagnosis
Result: Completed successfully. Error code = 0x0
Time taken = 79 ms

Test Performed:
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Name: Disk metadata test
Result: Completed successfully. Error code = 0x0
Time taken = 0 ms

Root cause found:
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Boot manager is missing or corrupt.

Repair action: File repair
Result: Failed. Error code = 0x2
Time taken = 0 ms

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VE3TRO said:
My build decided to start having problems tonight. I couldn't do anything once logged in on the desktop. I tried task manager and it would just lock up.

Now after a few reboots I'm getting this. Tried a reset but it won't complete. Shall I just delete the partition and start over? Believe it was 10130.
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It looks like your drive experienced corruption. I'd say it was a hardware fault personally.

Did you power cycle (even accidentally) while writing to your drive?

If not, your drive might be on its way out.

I'd wipe it. You should be able to install an older build and upgrade to 10240.
 
Hasney said:
Once you get the download on one machine, you can decrypt the .esd file it downloads and it's an ISO which you can then burn.

The RTM ISO is about, but the ESD that you could grab from MS's site is blocked now.
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I tried doing this and it stalls on checking on updates on this computer I have laying around.

oh well, 29tth is around the corner.
 
i have a laptop running windows 8 with the free upgrade to 10... lets say i install it and then a month later want to reinstall it fresh... do i have to install windows 8 first again?
 
n0razi said:
i have a laptop running windows 8 with the free upgrade to 10... lets say i install it and then a month later want to reinstall it fresh... do i have to install windows 8 first again?
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I think there's an option built into Windows 10 that lets you roll back to the operating system you upgraded from, but the option is only there for 30 days.
EDIT: Once you upgrade, your key is also upgraded AFAIK so I believe Windows 10 Resets will reset Windows 10 without you having to go back to 8.1
 
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