Windows 10 Troubleshooting Thread

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GJS said:
That doesn't turn off driver updates, it turns off automatic driver installs when you plug a new device in.
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Yup. The reason that was never really noticed in 8.1 is that there wasn't many drivers that constantly updated through windows update and if there was, you could stop it from installing anyway.
 
If I have two computers each with two legal copies of Windows 7, will I be able to upgrade both of them for free to Windows 10?
 
Can't actually remember if I already ask this in this thread so apologies if so, but has anyone had trouble getting GTA V to launch with W10? The pre-launcher comes up saying 'loading' then a windows thing pops up saying the launcher has stopped working :(
 
Dmax3901 said:
Can't actually remember if I already ask this in this thread so apologies if so, but has anyone had trouble getting GTA V to launch with W10? The pre-launcher comes up saying 'loading' then a windows thing pops up saying the launcher has stopped working :(
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I hadn't tried since updating to Windows 10 so I had a go.
Updated and started fine for me unfortunately.
 
I'm on 8.1 and currently have 3 drives in my machine:

  1. Intel 160GB SSD
  2. Samsung EVO 750gb
  3. Samsung 2TB HHD

Windows is installed on the Intel SSD. When I do the upgrade and the "reset" option, will it give me the option to install W10 on the EVO?
 
Dmax3901 said:
Can't actually remember if I already ask this in this thread so apologies if so, but has anyone had trouble getting GTA V to launch with W10? The pre-launcher comes up saying 'loading' then a windows thing pops up saying the launcher has stopped working :(
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I haven't had any trouble. Windows 10 has handled every game I've tried to play since switching over.
 
Smokey said:
I'm on 8.1 and currently have 3 drives in my machine:

  1. Intel 160GB SSD
  2. Samsung EVO 750gb
  3. Samsung 2TB HHD

Windows is installed on the Intel SSD. When I do the upgrade and the "reset" option, will it give me the option to install W10 on the EVO?
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I used a refresh option about a month ago for an older build. If I remember correctly it only just did a clean install on the drive that Windows 10 was on. You don't have a choice in moving it to another drive unless you use an ISO to clean install.
 
Smokey said:
I'm on 8.1 and currently have 3 drives in my machine:

  1. Intel 160GB SSD
  2. Samsung EVO 750gb
  3. Samsung 2TB HHD

Windows is installed on the Intel SSD. When I do the upgrade and the "reset" option, will it give me the option to install W10 on the EVO?
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Sucks, but I had to reinstall 8.1 on the new SSD and now I'm just waiting for 10. Maybe you can clone your 8.1 install to the new drive and then wait for 10.
 
I have not caught up much on DX12. I have a GTX 590 SLI-enabled card and it's a bit old now and doesn't get good performance out of modern games. Will DX12 help performance with currently released games like Witcher 3? Or am I misunderstanding how it works?
 
Kevin said:
I have not caught up much on DX12. I have a GTX 590 SLI-enabled card and it's a bit old now and doesn't get good performance out of modern games. Will DX12 help performance with currently released games like Witcher 3? Or am I misunderstanding how it works?
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As far as I know, the only game that you can buy now that supports DX12 is Ashes of the Singularity.
 
DonMigs85 said:
That will completely obliterate all traces of Windows 8.1, including drivers and manufacturer bloatware right?
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Not sure about the drivers but it will definitely remove the bloatware. I think there's even an option during the upgrade to install Windows 10 clean as well.
 
So I need to install Windows updates to get the reserve thingy right?
Says last time I checked for updates was 2012. Hopefully this doesn't take too long... lol
 
Seeing as this is a huge thread and I have no idea what's going on. Is the general consensus is that Windows 10 is good and I should hop on the free upgrade train?
 
SilentSoldier said:
Seeing as this is a huge thread and I have no idea what's going on. Is the general consensus is that Windows 10 is good and I should hop on the free upgrade train?
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I'm playiing around with an unactivated RTM build on another partition, it definitely performs better on my old AMD Zacate laptop than 8.1 ever did.
 
I wonder if we should make a Q&A Topic on the 29th which answers a bunch of common questions which are being asked. Looking over the past few pages, or all the Windows 10 threads in general its been a lot of the same being asked.

Sakura said:
So I need to install Windows updates to get the reserve thingy right?
Says last time I checked for updates was 2012. Hopefully this doesn't take too long... lol
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Oh its not that bad, only a couple hours of installing a bunch of updates, restarting and repeating. :P

SilentSoldier said:
Seeing as this is a huge thread and I have no idea what's going on. Is the general consensus is that Windows 10 is good and I should hop on the free upgrade train?
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Yes
 
HarryDemeanor said:
I used a refresh option about a month ago for an older build. If I remember correctly it only just did a clean install on the drive that Windows 10 was on. You don't have a choice in moving it to another drive unless you use an ISO to clean install.
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An ISO they don't want to offer in the first place?

I'm in an identical situation. Can't believe how hard Microsoft is trying to make everything. Following that Apple model of not giving users any choice at all even though there are countless of exceptions that need custom solutions.
 
Dmax3901 said:
Can't actually remember if I already ask this in this thread so apologies if so, but has anyone had trouble getting GTA V to launch with W10? The pre-launcher comes up saying 'loading' then a windows thing pops up saying the launcher has stopped working :(
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The only time I've ever had issue with games running in Windows 10 was before upgrading my GPU drivers. Everything's been smooth sailing from there.

Also, anybody use the Xbox One streaming to PC feature yet? Still can't find anybody to confirm whether or not streaming at the high quality preset is actually doing anything for them. High and medium are the same for me, and I'm wired in.
 
Edit: I give up every time I do updates it finds more updates and I don't see the windows 10 thing yet. Oh well not a big deal.
 
So lots of people in here are talking about fresh installs of Windows 10 and using the "refresh this PC" option in order to remove manufacturer bloatware, and I was wondering whether it would be a good idea for me to do the same to get the most out of the transition (I'm currently using W7.) I'm not very knowledgeable about this kind of thing - I don't know how to set up partitions on my hard drive to split up the OS and files, and I only have one internal hard drive with an extra external one that I keep the majority of my files on (I install programs to the main hard drive, though.) The external drive is basically just to give me more space. I also don't want to lose my installed programs or any of my files, but with my limited knowledge of reinstalling a copy of Windows I don't know whether I'd be able to have a "fresh" install and keep everything, but I do make regular backups to my external hard drive. My copy of Windows 7 came preinstalled on my OEM computer and as far as I'm aware I don't have a product key for it (I have made recovery disks to reinstall W7, though.)

What I'm trying to say, in the most roundabout way possible, is what is my best course of action if I want to get the most out of the upgrade while still keeping all my stuff? Should I just update and tell it to carry all of my files across or should I take some more precautions and do a "fresh" install? If so, what precautions should I take?
 
Mandelbo said:
So lots of people in here are talking about fresh installs of Windows 10 and using the "refresh this PC" option in order to remove manufacturer bloatware, and I was wondering whether it would be a good idea for me to do the same to get the most out of the transition (I'm currently using W7.) I'm not very knowledgeable about this kind of thing - I don't know how to set up partitions on my hard drive to split up the OS and files, and I only have one internal hard drive with an extra external one that I keep the majority of my files on (I install programs to the main hard drive, though.) The external drive is basically just to give me more space. I also don't want to lose my installed programs or any of my files, but with my limited knowledge of reinstalling a copy of Windows I don't know whether I'd be able to have a "fresh" install and keep everything, but I do make regular backups to my external hard drive. My copy of Windows 7 came preinstalled on my OEM computer and as far as I'm aware I don't have a product key for it (I have made recovery disks to reinstall W7, though.)

What I'm trying to say, in the most roundabout way possible, is what is my best course of action if I want to get the most out of the upgrade while still keeping all my stuff? Should I just update and tell it to carry all of my files across or should I take some more precautions and do a "fresh" install? If so, what precautions should I take?
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Install the upgrade then reset; selecting the option to keep personal files. Everything but Windows 10 and whatever is in your User folder will be deleted.
CyberPunked said:
When I upgrade, will I have the option to clean install as in wipe everything from my SSD then install windows?
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No. Upgrade, then Reset.
 
fudgey_lumpkins said:
Install the upgrade then reset; selecting the option to keep personal files. Everything but Windows 10 and whatever is in your User folder will be deleted.

No. Upgrade, then Reset.
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Would this keep programs that I've installed myself? Would the Program Files and Program Files (x86) be wiped? There are a number of things I could do with losing, but there are also quite a few programs I've installed that I can't do without. Is there a way of whitelisting certain files to prevent them from being deleted?
 
Mandelbo said:
Would this keep programs that I've installed myself? Would the Program Files and Program Files (x86) be wiped? There are a number of things I could do with losing, but there are also quite a few programs I've installed that I can't do without. Is there a way of whitelisting certain files to prevent them from being deleted?
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You'll either need to wipe everything and reinstall what you need or wipe nothing and manually remove what you don't want.

I recommend you go with option 1.
 
One question. I'm a Windows Insider who signed up way earlier this year, but I don't have any Windows Insider builds installed on anything at the moment. Since I heard that Insiders get first dibs on Windows 10 (General Availability), does anyone know if I'll be one of those first people to get the upgrade?
 
Upsidedown Fuji said:
This is why mandatory, forced updates are a thing in 10.
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Nah that's terrible.
I don't want MS pushing whatever they want on me. Security fixes are one thing, pushing their own software and stuff is not something I want.
Though I read it was only forced for Home version.
 
Sakura said:
Nah that's terrible.
I don't want MS pushing whatever they want on me. Security fixes are one thing, pushing their own software and stuff is not something I want.
Though I read it was only forced for Home version.
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How often do they push anything over and above updates the OS benefits from or actually needs? They list Skype in there sometime but it's optional and not checked by default.
 
Sakura said:
Nah that's terrible.
I don't want MS pushing whatever they want on me. Security fixes are one thing, pushing their own software and stuff is not something I want.
Though I read it was only forced for Home version.
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The way I understand it, Pro versions will have the option of deferring updates for several months but you can't stop them forever.

I didn't even have a problem with this. ..but now that it looks like third party drivers will be included in the forced updates, I really hate it.
 
The latest security update KB3074681 causes explorer.exe to crash when using the network connections page and the program and features panel.
 
José Mourinho;173022091 said:
How often do they push anything over and above updates the OS benefits from or actually needs? They list Skype in there sometime but it's optional and not checked by default.
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When I was doing my Windows updates, I'm pretty sure one of the 'important updates' was IE 11. I don't use IE, yet here I was installing it because MS says it's an important update... They can throw whatever they want on there, and I am not exactly fond of that.

epmode said:
The way I understand it, Pro versions will have the option of deferring updates for several months but you can't stop them forever.

I didn't even have a problem with this. ..but now that it looks like third party drivers will be included in the forced updates, I really hate it.
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If the options exist to defer it for several months, I'm sure a work around could be developed that just indefinitely defers them.
Or people will complain and Windows 10.1 won't have it.
 
Have Microsoft ever commented on the forced updates? Is it likely to be revised or are we stuck with it?
 
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