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Windows 8.1 |OT| There's your start button
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Battersea Power Station
Member
That's just right clicking on the Windows button.
If you want the Windows 7 Start Menu, use this: http://www.classicshell.net/
(I'm only suggesting it since you seemed excited by the look of something Windows 7-ey. I personally like that look as well and use Classic Shell.)
a Master Ninja
Member
Right click the start button.
Chance Hale
Member
Anyone use the netflix Metro app on a 16:10 monitor? Switched recently and now netflix often auto crops the picture and it's really annoying. Is there a way to stop it from cropping? The picture often switches between the proper, black barred aspect ratio and the terrible crop.
It's like they have a hat with folded up pieces of paper that they use to see where windows is going over at microsoft.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/9/5192742/windows-threshold-start-menu-rumor
http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/9/5192742/windows-threshold-start-menu-rumor
Anton Sugar
Member
Does anyone have an easy to understand explanation of Storage Spaces? It initially sounded like I could mirror aka backup one of my drives to a storage space, but I have no idea how this is supposed to work. I have a drive that is already full and would like to mirror all of the data to this empty drive for redundancy.
Or am I completely misunderstanding Storage Spaces?
Or am I completely misunderstanding Storage Spaces?
Chance Hale
Member
Or they realize that 90% of the silly complaints about Windows 8 have been about the start menu so they might as well give the option and eliminate them.
or they could stop being dipshits and move forward.
also Windows+X
With a massively superior start screen.
Yea cause shit from the nineties are awesome.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
The Start Menu is a relic and a terrible UI experience. I shouldn't have to navigate a file system to reach my applications, and all applications should be open within two clicks.
Windows 7's transition to a dock-like Task Bar was a start, but like almost everything Windows, the old terrible method was left in there, making it some crazy chimera that's in between.
Felix Lighter
Member
Damn this is news to me, awesome.
Yeah this was my biggest pleasant surprise after I installed Windows 8.1. I honestly access almost all of those features more than I access any program that isn't already pinned to my taskbar.
Metalmurphy
Member
Wondering if anyone here can help me with this strange problem I'm having.
Ever since I updated to 8.1 my PC boots to a blackscreen with just an cursor (which moves). There is disk activity during a few seconds then it stops. It basically looks like the PC is booting normally, but nothing shows up. Now here's the curious part. The only way I can actually boot into windows is if I do a hard reset.
If I reboot it normally it'll still go to the black screen, an hard reset and it boots into windows, really strange. Even stranger is that as I'm doing the hard reset, as soon as I press the power button, Windows desktop appears and fades out right away (since it's starting to reboot).
Happens on a clean install so it's not virus/malware related, but I have no idea what else it could be. Anyone have a clue?
Ever since I updated to 8.1 my PC boots to a blackscreen with just an cursor (which moves). There is disk activity during a few seconds then it stops. It basically looks like the PC is booting normally, but nothing shows up. Now here's the curious part. The only way I can actually boot into windows is if I do a hard reset.
If I reboot it normally it'll still go to the black screen, an hard reset and it boots into windows, really strange. Even stranger is that as I'm doing the hard reset, as soon as I press the power button, Windows desktop appears and fades out right away (since it's starting to reboot).
Happens on a clean install so it's not virus/malware related, but I have no idea what else it could be. Anyone have a clue?
The Cowboy
Member
I'm kinda surprised more people didn't know about this being in standard Window 8 - in saying that MS didn't really do a very good job of telling people about things like this (the only adjustment to the 8.1 version in this section was the addition of the shutdown part).
That sucks.. it sounds like you have this issue.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-8-1-Installation-Fails-with-Blank-Black-Screen-392346.shtml
Fixes posted there btw, but in the latest update they don't seem to be a 100% fix for everyone. Might be worth a shot.
EDIT: This seems to be a well received fix on Youtube as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgje-t0OLdI
Desktop Shortcuts?
Which is pretty much the same as the Metro start screen. Only difference is when I open up the start menu, i can still see everything that is running and doesn't stop my workflow.
Metalmurphy
Member
I don't think CTRL+ALT+DEL works when I'm at the black screen but I'll give it a try. Thanks.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
Have you seen most people's desktops? Not enough guidance from the OS.
Battersea Power Station
Member
Some parts of this I agree with and some parts I disagree. Drilling down through folders in the Start Menu to open an app is old fashioned. However for me, and for most power users, the Windows 7 search features are indispensable. Having the Windows button there as a visual indicator of the search options it provides is just good UI. Even OS X, which has been a more modern desktop OS for years now, has Spotlight search visually present. So does Google's Android on phones and tablets. I like that it's separate from the other apps, it's constantly present, and easy to access.
The W7 dock is great. I don't have a problem with it that I can think of, besides maybe wishing for a better visual representation of pinning folders like Downloads, etc. Most casual users don't do that.
Monkeylord
Member
Has anyone got any idea why Windows Mail in 8.1 shows 2 of every email I receive? It's only Windows mail that does this. If I look at emails via my phone there's only one of each.
Very odd.
Very odd.
megarockexe
Member
Do you have Outlook? Does it do that in your Outlook? I had to dig around to find out which folders certain types of messages are received in and receiving 2 of a mail was possible like this.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
I have that too. It's awful.
Monkeylord
Member
Nope, just windows mail. curiously enough though, if I delete one it deletes both. Also, it nests both emails under one subject so it actually looks like 3 emails.
Here's what I mean...
Same here, looks great. I hope that's what they do, considering all of the rumors
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
FunkyLounge
Member
Now that looks useful and stysish!
Looks fantastic.
Junior Mint
Member
Looks great.
Unfortunately, the windows don't have enough ugly ass Windows chrome for Microsoft though.
Unfortunately, the windows don't have enough ugly ass Windows chrome for Microsoft though.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
I'm not sure there's any design reasoning strong enough for taking real estate from the start screen to partially show an empty desktop. People need to let that go. I'm against getting rid of the desktop but trying to force it into view to preserve the old way is just silly.
PetriP-TNT
Member
Well to bad because Microcorp is taking it out of the Windows because they want to make the Windows look like the Android tablet I know it's true I read it in the netscape youtube comments.
Nope, just windows mail. curiously enough though, if I delete one it deletes both. Also, it nests both emails under one subject so it actually looks like 3 emails.
Here's what I mean...
Are you sure you have only one account set up (Right click, accounts)?
Maybe you added one accidentally.
The Cowboy
Member
That's very nice indeed, I would love someone to make it (be it MS or other
).I kinda like this as something that blends in well with the tWin8 tile interface.
http://www.reviversoft.com/start-menu-reviver/
Its just a shame that the transition from modern UI to desktop isn't as smooth as I'd like compared to Start8.
Start Menu Reviver (its free by the way).
Monkeylord
Member
I have 2 email accounts set up in Windows Mail. My home email from my ISP and my Gmail.
Only my ISP email (Blueyonder) shows the double emails, and only on Windows Mail. On my phone or online shows only one of each email.
megarockexe
Member
Nope, just windows mail. curiously enough though, if I delete one it deletes both. Also, it nests both emails under one subject so it actually looks like 3 emails.
Here's what I mean...
Outlook as in the email service at outlook.com. I see it's an ISP email now, but I could be a double-account issue at some place. Check the webmail versions of each account to see where the account comes from, otherwise it could be a duplicate account configured within the Mail app.
Felix Lighter
Member
But this launched with Windows 8
EDIT: Beaten... into the ground
I upgraded from Windows 7 so I wasn't aware of its existence.
Monkeylord
Member
I'm starting to think it may be because my ISP email address is the one I used to create my Windows ID (well, at the time it was my Xbox Gamertag, but that became a general Windows ID). I had to disable mail syncing with the Windows ID account and manually add my ISP email in order to add server settings.
Until I did that I wasn't getting any emails on my ISP account.
At the bottom left I can cheese between my ISP and my Gmail, but each account is only listed once.
Jzero
Member
That's weird, that doesn't happen to mine.
Winterfang
Banned
I though Firefox had a Metro app. What happened to it?
SonofdonCD
Member
I just bought an Asus Transformer Book T100. I want to connect my MS account to it, but it keeps giving me an error 0x800b0101. Is there a fix for this?
Jayayess1190
Member
If you use Mozilla Nightly with it set to default browser, it works.
Emperor Bohe
Member
yoooo, that looks amazing
I like the start screen at home, but for tech work the start screen is useless. It's useless because every person's machine, every test machine, every type of infrastructure machine has a completely different layout. So you just ignore it, and win+appName enter. That works most of the time, but if you're ever working on installers or verifying that your product installs correctly, you then must go to the all apps screen with is a giant mess. With enterprise software, it can easily be 10 1080p monitors in width. It's so disorganized you never use it.
I think for enterprise something like the start menu updated to use modern UI is needed. On that line of thought, the entire desktop needs to go modern UI (but still with resizable windows).
Edit:
Basically the first image but with organizable folders by name, etc.
Chairmanchuck
Member
Anyone knows the best way to backup my Outlook-contacts and login-information, since I wanna do a clean re-install of W 8.1, but the email, as well as firefox and Opera have quite important login information for my work and i rather have to backup them easily than search for the login information.