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So if W8 is out in October, when should we expect the Surface Pro? Early 2013 I assume? Really hoped a xmas release. 
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SeaOfMadness
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They probably will.... once they figure out the best use cases for the wheel and integrate it fully in win9. I see the metro one note as a test case for moving full office over to metro (and expect that to be when everything goes metro).
The interesting bit is the wheel could even potentially work for the smaller snapped window since it appears where you touch.
No, you don't.
Steelyuhas
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Damn that is cool. The radial menu is pretty sweet, played around with it a bit on the Onenote Metro app and it's really slick.
Hey you shut your mouth!
Wow, that is awesome.
LukasTaves
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Holy fucking shit!
It seems Ms has some *really* amazing UI improvements in the oven. I can see some utterly complicated desktop interface getting ported with no compromises to this.
Thats sweet.
SeaOfMadness
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Here's a better demo of it.
I love the way you can drag out a line from the dial to make finer adjustments.
I love the way you can drag out a line from the dial to make finer adjustments.
Complex Shadow
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Arm tablet is dead confirmed.
I don't think it'll be that bad for touch and you can always plug in a mouse for some of the finer details.
Here's a pretty good blog post on touch input for Office: using the new Office with touch
RT has the desktop. You can only use Windows Utilities and Office (comes with it) and IE though.
I installed right over Windows 7 on my junky home computer and it was pretty smooth. The install advisor will tell you what programs will carry over and what will need to be reinstalled.
I can't help but think they're going to kill access to the desktop altogether. There's no logical explanation for having it there for office/ie only.
Is there a program I could use to change those shortcut key combinations so that they at least make sense? E.G.
Win+A = apps
Win+S = settings
Win+F = files
Yikes... There's no way I'd want FireFox-less internet browsing, much less an iOS-like 'walled garden' type of environment from Windows8. I guess I'm the regular "Win8" Edition all the way, if I end-up upgrading.
It sounds that way. I mean like, what would be the point of the Desktop environment if you're just shoe-horned back into Office/IE, likely the metro versions too.
SeaOfMadness
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Silly.Mikey
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Wow, thats amazing
Very very nice.
soul creator
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anyone else using Windows 8 on a Lenovo A720?
I've wanted to splurge a bit on something gaudy recently so I just bought one of these, and I dig it a lot actually. There were some quirks though with needing to reinstall drivers after I put Windows 8 on it, and I was getting some random crashes initially (that seemed to be fixed after some updates...knock on wood), so it obviously isn't 100% ready for prime-time, but I love being able to switch back and forth between BIG ASS TABLET, and regular mouse/keyboard input. The fold-down screen helps address a lot of the "why would I use touch on a desktop?" issues. Even regular old phone games (like Cut The Rope) feel pretty amazing on a 27" touch screen that's tilted down like an architect's table.
It kinda feels like having a Microsoft Surface in my home.
I've wanted to splurge a bit on something gaudy recently so I just bought one of these, and I dig it a lot actually. There were some quirks though with needing to reinstall drivers after I put Windows 8 on it, and I was getting some random crashes initially (that seemed to be fixed after some updates...knock on wood), so it obviously isn't 100% ready for prime-time, but I love being able to switch back and forth between BIG ASS TABLET, and regular mouse/keyboard input. The fold-down screen helps address a lot of the "why would I use touch on a desktop?" issues. Even regular old phone games (like Cut The Rope) feel pretty amazing on a 27" touch screen that's tilted down like an architect's table.
It kinda feels like having a Microsoft Surface in my home.
I'm holding out for a kinect/leap solution where I don't have to fully reach for the screen and can just seamlessly raise my hand from my m/kb whenever i want to do something quickly and not get my fingers all over the screen as well. Also wouldn't have to buy specific monitor.
Before dlm8r comes in and flips out, Windows RT=/=windows 8 and is specifically for ARM tablets. You cannot buy or upgrade to windows RT as a result because it's being put on specific devices. And yeah it's metro apps only with the exception of Office 15.
Been using Win 8 for the past week and I still don't know why I need metro on a desktop. The apps are all crappy and the desktop alternatives are pretty much better in every way. I might as well just unpin everything except for my programs. Speaking of which, can't I just make it so the windows key takes me to the "all apps" section? Why do pictures open up in metro when I'm on the desktop?
Seriously, I click weather and it does the spinning circle thing longer than it would've taken me to just google the weather in Chrome. And I don't have to deal with a nonsensical horizontal scrolling layout either. There are really only two reasons to go into metro, you have a touchscreen device or you like doing everything you do slower and in more cumbersome ways.
Seriously, I click weather and it does the spinning circle thing longer than it would've taken me to just google the weather in Chrome. And I don't have to deal with a nonsensical horizontal scrolling layout either. There are really only two reasons to go into metro, you have a touchscreen device or you like doing everything you do slower and in more cumbersome ways.
Metro apps take WAY too long to load, I agree. I expect things to load instantly at this point, but some of the Metro apps are insanely slow comparatively.
Metro works for touch screens and would work well with trackpads that support multitouch gestures. With mice, they did not do nearly enough.
1/15/2013. It'll give you warnings and then start to auto shutdown. Steam games can easily be reinstalled by copying them to another partition/drive if you install W8 RTM in October.
RTM? Why wouldn't I be able to copy Steam games right now with the current preview?
RTM is the final retail release, I meant when you get a license it'll be simple to transfer your games over from the release preview.
Ah okay. Thanks for the clarification!
Jzero
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has someone posted the new leaked rtm stuff?
show me your skeleton
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edit: goddamnit jzero15! >:C
MmmSkyscraper
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That site is getting pounded harder than...
Edit: not much to get excited about there.
Anybody gotten the updated login pages? Looks like they are starting to roll out.
http://www.liveside.net/2012/07/23/...d-with-metro-style-wave-5-m4-release-imminent
http://www.liveside.net/2012/07/23/...d-with-metro-style-wave-5-m4-release-imminent
More on page 3 of that thread too.
Seriously, who's in charge of this stuff:
Terrible design. And if this is RTM... there are still Vista-styled icons there. Why even bother going with the flatter UI when every single icon clashes terribly with it?
Does Microsoft even know what "consistent" means?
Yuck.
That's all the Desktop view, though. It's vestigial at this point, with Metro as the new standard look of Windows.More on page 3 of that thread too.
Seriously, who's in charge of this stuff:
Terrible design. And if this is RTM... there are still Vista-styled icons there. Why even bother going with the flatter UI when every single icon clashes terribly with it?
Does Microsoft even know what "consistent" means?
Yuck.
I'm surprised they bothered to reskin Desktop assets at all. Perhaps to indoctrinate the industry more deeply into the world of their new Metro overlords. I, for one, welcome them.
Jzero
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Yea probably using it on a mac. It shouldn't be crashing at all.
Jayayess1190
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Windows 8 has issues with Mac's and Boot camp. Read somewhere that you need to wait for Apple to fix it.
Windows 8 Blog about hardware acceleration.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/...celerating-everything-windows-8-graphics.aspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/...celerating-everything-windows-8-graphics.aspx
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Then what in Windows 8 prevents you from doing that?
If you're only using it as a Steam launcher Windows 8 uses a smaller foot print and less memory than Windows 7.
soul creator
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I was getting a bunch of random lockups initially. I then noticed that it didn't install my actual video card drivers (it was some random default Microsoft video driver). After upgrading those, and installing some other windows update stuff, it's been stable ever since.
I'm not on an iMac though (it's the lenovo a720 I mentioned in a post above)
I'm not on an iMac though (it's the lenovo a720 I mentioned in a post above)
Wiktor
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I like metro-ified Office icons. Hopefully some user will make a similiar set for all Windows icons.
Anyway, a funny thing. In Poland we have a free newspaper (handed out for free on the streets, it survives on adds alone) called Metro. It's publisher (Agora) just merged the official news website of the newspaper with Microsoft's msn.pl site and billboards such as this appeared on streets:
Such an obvious, but still very fun thing to do
Anyway, a funny thing. In Poland we have a free newspaper (handed out for free on the streets, it survives on adds alone) called Metro. It's publisher (Agora) just merged the official news website of the newspaper with Microsoft's msn.pl site and billboards such as this appeared on streets:
Such an obvious, but still very fun thing to do
Silly.Mikey
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Man the removal of the start menu on the regular desktop really bothers me.
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