Mister Wolf
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Deathloop was a GOTY contender at the Game awards. Stop it.
It sold like shit. Consumer > Reviewers. The new Mario Bros movie is a example of this in the reverse.
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Deathloop was a GOTY contender at the Game awards. Stop it.
Yeah after i read more carefully, it does seem that Jez is downplaying Phil's part in this without actually putting it on Matt and Aaron and the likes. That's what i thought i read in the first reading, like "stop blaming Phil so much and start blaming Matt and Pete and Aaron more instead" but no, you are right, my mistake."Spencer oversees the entire business as a whole and speaking completely realistically, it shouldn't fall on him to get into the minutiae of every single game launching under the brand. There are only so many physical human hours in the day."
It took Jez less than a day to get right back up on the shill wagon after his negative review of Redfall.
Hi-Fi Rush came out and all these zealots could do was praise Microsoft. Even though the game was in development pre-acquisition. If I’m not mistaken, some of these fanboys even wrote pieces like “Hi-Fi Rush Wouldn’t Have Happened Without Microsoft”.
But a studio bought in the same merger puts out absolute garbage and suddenly I’m supposed to believe that Microsoft had nothing at all to do with it and Microsoft bears no blame?
Fuck outta here.
If they’re gonna credit Microsoft for things like Hi-Fi Rush, then they gotta blame Microsoft for trash like Redfall.
Yea, that isn't how it works.
Microsoft aren't just letting Bethesda make all their own decisions. Everything has to be ok'd further up the chain.
Microsoft is fully to blame, along with Arkane and Zenimax.
I’m just consistent in pushing back on what I consider to be unwarranted and unfair criticism done in bad faith.
Do you?Do you have reading comprehension problems? Or task of knowing difference between Microsoft (corporation), XBox (division of Microsoft, now AFAIK called Microsoft Gaming), XBox Games Studios (publisher run by Matt Booty) and Zenimax/Bethesda (another publisher run by Peter Hines) is to hard to you?
of course they were involved
they won't, if the game was good microsoft would take all the creditI hope someone confronts Jez with this tweet as this one crashes his entire house of lies in one fell swoop.
Stop protecting the Booty. Even if it isn't his fault he needs gone too. This mess is going on since Mattrick was booted, so who was the last major executive to get sacked? They are worse than civil servants with the protection given.Do you?
- Xbox Game Studios (Matt Booty) = NOT to be blamed (Zenimax/Arkane does not report into Matt or XGS).
- Zenimax/Bethesda = to be blamed (Arkane is their studio)
- Xbox (Microsoft Gaming) = to be blamed (Zenimax reports into Xbox, whose Head is Phil Spencer)
- Microsoft = to be blamed (it is their division, and they own and are responsible for everything. The buck stops with them).
Yeah, damn right they should do exactly this. Bring fucking game to the standard or GTFO.What exactly do you want Xbox to do, tell Arkane they have to work on the game for another year? even though it's clear that won't cut it either?
Stop protecting the Booty. Even if it isn't his fault he needs gone too. This mess is going on since Mattrick was booted, so who was the last major executive to get sacked? They are worse than civil servants with the protection given.
plz get your money's worth and share the screen caps here.On Era, criticizing Jez for being a damage controlling shill is treated like a crime. Notice the ban for a period point/full stop.
I think it's time going to ask for a perm on era and make gaf my exclusive lol
On Era, criticizing Jez for being a damage controlling shill is treated like a crime. Notice the ban for a period point/full stop.
I think it's time going to ask for a perm on era and make gaf my exclusive lol
They can take credit for supporting the studios in the places where they need it. Tango Gameworks clearly had the idea and execution for Hi-Fi Rush locked down, but it really needed more marketing push to reach its potential. What they did was shadow-drop an excellent game into a cut-throat market and left it to fend for itself (a simple round of mock reviews would have told them they had a banger on their hands). Redfall clearly needed technical and creative support to deliver on the vision, but again, they were left to their own devices. Management is about giving studios what they need to succeed and working with each studio to provide that.You can't have it both ways, Hi Fi Rush comes out and is superb and people say well it wasn't anything to do with MS as has been in development for years. The same situation applies to Redfall.
If MS is to "blame" for Redfall launch problems then it must also take all the credit for Hi Fi Rush.
Gamepass filler... nothing more ... everyone's know it .. some shills will die in the hill of denial ... but it is what it is.. drop a stream of continuous content, quality dosent matter ..some times they will luck out (hi fi rush) most of the time will be shit ..... the netflix way of life ...Quoting this one for truth. The biggest justification for these mergers is the additional marketing power, resources, expertise and funding that a platform holder can provide. Hi-Fi Rush was shadow-dropped with almost no marketing support and now we're being told that Microsoft took little-to-no interest in Arkane's latest project. If the only outcome is that these games will just appear on fewer platforms than they would have, is this really in anyone's interest?
Don't ask for perm, create w topic asking why their admin members were playing Hogwarts legacy back in the dayI think it's time going to ask for a perm on era and make gaf my exclusive lol
People bash the game press for impartiality justly so and at the same time clap for awards given by the same press...It sold like shit. Consumer > Reviewers. The new Mario Bros movie is a example of this in the reverse.
Xbox fans now:
It was PlayStations fault all along
Well if you have the quotes from this "people" saying hifi rush is not MS success and at the same time saying the redfall is MS failure by all means post them here.. lets call out themYou can't have it both ways, Hi Fi Rush comes out and is superb and people say well it wasn't anything to do with MS as has been in development for years. The same situation applies to Redfall.
If MS is to "blame" for Redfall launch problems then it must also take all the credit for Hi Fi Rush.
“Journalists “ I don’t think but some pretty big Twitter guys and I air quote that word for even Jez as they are just extensions of the MS PR machine imoGenuine question: Are there any "blue team" journalists like Jez?
343 was given free reign because Phil played games and was legit friends with a lot of people running 343 and he let that friendship cloud some judgement.The information is most likely true though, and it kinda falls in line with existing information about MS studio autonomy. Just look at 343 and how they've been allowed to screw up for years seemingly without intervention. ..Which is baffling to me. With all of this going on Microsoft need to set up some sort of oversight mechanisms.
I question this narrative 100%. Phil hyped Halo Infinite massively for that gameplay reveal until the internet met Craig and mocked them into delaying the game an extra year or so, to still be released as a complete shitshow.The information is most likely true though, and it kinda falls in line with existing information about MS studio autonomy. Just look at 343 and how they've been allowed to screw up for years seemingly without intervention. ..Which is baffling to me. With all of this going on Microsoft need to set up some sort of oversight mechanisms.
Call the senator!I was listening to Jez's podcast and they were actually saying something along the lines of Sony first party studios are to blame because they've raised the bar so high it's almost impossible for others to compete.
It took Jez less than a day to get right back up on the shill wagon after his negative review of Redfall.
Hi-Fi Rush came out and all these zealots could do was praise Microsoft. Even though the game was in development pre-acquisition. If I’m not mistaken, some of these fanboys even wrote pieces like “Hi-Fi Rush Wouldn’t Have Happened Without Microsoft”.
But a studio bought in the same merger puts out absolute garbage and suddenly I’m supposed to believe that Microsoft had nothing at all to do with it and Microsoft bears no blame?
Fuck outta here.
If they’re gonna credit Microsoft for things like Hi-Fi Rush, then they gotta blame Microsoft for trash like Redfall.
Call the senator!
Somebody needs to get a court order for Sony to lower the quality of their games!
Do you?
- Xbox Game Studios (Matt Booty) = NOT to be blamed (Zenimax/Arkane does not report into Matt or XGS).
- Zenimax/Bethesda = to be blamed (Arkane is their studio)
- Xbox (Microsoft Gaming) = to be blamed (Zenimax reports into Xbox, whose Head is Phil Spencer)
- Microsoft = to be blamed (it is their division, and they own and are responsible for everything. The buck stops with them).
I agree. There are many PlayStation shills and fanboys on Twitter that have made this their day job.“Journalists “ I don’t think but some pretty big Twitter guys and I air quote that word for even Jez as they are just extensions of the MS PR machine imo
He's as much of a journalist as the guys working on playstation blog (no disrespect meant to the bloggers). It's just a marketing branch of Microsoft, not to be taken as independent in any way.I agree. There are many PlayStation shills and fanboys on Twitter that have made this their day job.
However, like it not, Jez is a "journalist" that has access to the Windows Central platform. Twitter fanboys have limited reach. Guys like Jez can tap into the journalism medium to reach a much wider audience and even attend important conferences and meetings, e.g., Brad Smith's EC ABK press conference.
Tom Warren, Brad Sams, Jez Corden, Nick: there are many.
I don't think there are any PlayStation fanboys who are "journalists" and also have access to well-known publications that they can use as their propaganda medium. I could be wrong though; I just haven't seen any yet.
I think you may be right. I found this Gaming Leadership Team chart (Jan 18. 2022) and expected to find Zenimax leadership alongside Matt Booty. But they aren't here.Actually don't think this is correct ..... Zenimax is a subsidiary of Xbox Game Studios since 2021. Notwithstanding that the former Zenimax businesses have a lot of operating autonomy Booty is still in charge of all of this,
Corporate structure is Xbox Game Studios -> Zenimax Media -> Arkane Studios
I agree. There are many PlayStation shills and fanboys on Twitter that have made this their day job.
However, like it not, Jez is a "journalist" that has access to the Windows Central platform. Twitter fanboys have limited reach. Guys like Jez can tap into the journalism medium to reach a much wider audience and even attend important conferences and meetings, e.g., Brad Smith's EC ABK press conference.
Tom Warren, Brad Sams, Jez Corden, Nick: there are many.
I don't think there are any PlayStation fanboys who are "journalists" and also have access to well-known publications that they can use as their propaganda medium. I could be wrong though; I just haven't seen any yet.
Doubt 60% of them know what side is up on the xbox controller... could be wrong thoughI think you may be right. I found this Gaming Leadership Team chart (Jan 18. 2022) and expected to find Zenimax leadership alongside Matt Booty. But they aren't here.
The Zenimax deal closed over 2 years ago. There's no way you're telling me at no point in the last 2 years Matt Booty or one of his people didn't look at this game and think "maybe let's chat with whoever at Bethesda is the producer on this game".
Both Microsoft and Bethesda need to take responsibility for this. Microsoft especially because this is their first AAA exclusive since Halo Infinite. Why did they not take care to make sure everything was fucking perfect?
This is a larger problem with Microsoft right now. They seem to be incapable of managing their studios and projects. Unfortunately for Phil, that starts with him. if you can't fo it all yourself, hire good managers. If you can't do that, then maybe you need to let someone do your job.
Bethesda’s structure and leadership will remain in place.
He'd be singing a different tune would the game be a 90+
I'm surprised Era cares about Jez. The dude is been on Defining Duke which is a part of Colin Moriarty's company.On Era, criticizing Jez for being a damage controlling shill is treated like a crime. Notice the ban for a period point/full stop.
I think it's time going to ask for a perm on era and make gaf my exclusive lol
Yeah, but we know him and his shenanigans. Others, Windows Central average users for example, will just eat up his propaganda without knowing the reality.RaxtxA
I don’t regard Jez Corden as a journalist or even a “journalist”. He does public relations.
The pronouns still get me.I think you may be right. I found this Gaming Leadership Team chart (Jan 18. 2022) and expected to find Zenimax leadership alongside Matt Booty. But they aren't here.