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I noticed something peculiar with the camera on my Omnia. I was tryin to take a picture of my desk and realisd it was incredibly dark.

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Then I aimed it slightly lower and I get this

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It seems any minor adjustment of the angle sharply affects the brightness of the images taken. Another example below.

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And then I aim at the roof

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Results are the same in an open environment as well
 
antiquegamer said:
Windows Phone 7 in my Xbox Kinect Hub! It's about time they integrate and have one uniform UI across all devices.
Seriously, it looks better than the new Windows 8 interface. Much better. Oh, and they called it "Xbox Music". Lets see if this is the new name or only for the Xbox.
 
brotkasten said:
Seriously, it looks better than the new Windows 8 interface. Much better. Oh, and they called it just "Xbox Music". Lets see if this is the new name or only for the Xbox.

I agree it looks more Zune HD interface mix with Windows Phone 7 than Windows 8 tiles galore interface. It also very clean looking, let hope MS keep it that way and not pollute it with tons of ads and busy design.
 
dLMN8R said:
My thoughts?

I wouldn't want to be on the Windows Phone team right now :-(

You see, outside iMessaging, I didn't see anything to make me think WP7 has a lot to gain on. I agree that the Notification system needs attention, but Mango does offer things which if I owned an iPhone I too would want. I commented that this fall, it'll come down to personal preference in terms of the OS. Outside the quantity of the App Store on the iOS, there isn't anything there other than iMessaging I am envious of personally.

I would like to backup my phone though lol - everything from apps, game saves to text messages
 
Meus Renaissance said:
Thoughts on the WWDC11 conference?

like every Apple conference, if you're in that ecosystem it's exciting stuff but it's not enough to pull me in

and they probably pissed off a lot of developers by poaching their best ideas
 
They copied over the lock screen camera from WP7 and the notification from Android. Both excellent moves.

I haven't read up on everything else though, did they add any additional functionality to the apps on the springboard (like live tiles or widgets)? Also, what is imessaging?
 
iMessaging is the iOS version of BBM. Message text and media to other iOS devices over Wifi and 3G. Carriers are crying
 
I've never used BBM, so I guess I don't know what I'm missing. I think the threaded stuff in Mango that mixes texts and chat should work for me just fine.
 
Meus Renaissance said:
You see, outside iMessaging, I didn't see anything to make me think WP7 has a lot to gain on. I agree that the Notification system needs attention, but Mango does offer things which if I owned an iPhone I too would want. I commented that this fall, it'll come down to personal preference in terms of the OS. Outside the quantity of the App Store on the iOS, there isn't anything there other than iMessaging I am envious of personally.

I would like to backup my phone though lol - everything from apps, game saves to text messages
Mango, as much as I like it, won't make anyone switch though. We don't know yet what the Nokia Mango phones will look like, nor what iPhone 4GS/5 will be for that matter, but they'll probably receive similar high scores from the press. However, the iPhone has greater mindshare worldwide. And the iTunes/iCloud integration will be huge. Microsoft needs to figure out their Zune rebranding stat and start promoting an alternative to iTunes. They also need to make Windows messenger relevant again in the US, or get Skype integrated into Mango and make it a BBM/iMessenger competitor.
 
Charred Greyface said:
Mango, as much as I like it, won't make anyone switch though. We don't know yet what the Nokia Mango phones will look like, nor what iPhone 4GS/5 will be for that matter, but they'll probably receive similar high scores from the press. However, the iPhone has greater mindshare worldwide. And the iTunes/iCloud integration will be huge.

Android is handily beating iPhone despite anything resembling iTunes or a unified messaging system. MS has the ecosystem and a killer OS, they don't have the device lineup that Android has. Once Nokia gets in, and hopefully with the other OEM's getting a little more creative and inspired with their WP7 handsets, MS will be fine.

Mango will help with the 3rd party app problem, in terms of giving them more access, and there has been no problem getting devs to publish, even with the restrictions in place now.
 
VanMardigan said:
I've never used BBM, so I guess I don't know what I'm missing. I think the threaded stuff in Mango that mixes texts and chat should work for me just fine.
BBM has nullified my texting and calling. Microsoft should be using their considerable strength with MSN and doing something about iMessaging/BBM.
 
Firestorm said:
BBM has nullified my texting and calling. Microsoft should be using their considerable strength with MSN and doing something about iMessaging/BBM.

I don't really see why Windows Live Messenger isn't as good (or better than) iMessaging/BBM.
 
After iOS5 and Mango hit it seems like Apple, Google and Microsoft will all have phone OSs that are roughly at the same place feature wise while also having a few of their own unique advantages and disadvantages.

Right now Microsoft really needs at least one really killer piece of hardware (basically the Droid of WP) and to market its services better. There's no reason that Apple and Google should be taking up so much of the music mindshare when Zune and Zune Pass not only existed years ago but are better in many ways. Unfortunately the last one is an uphill battle in today's media environment.
 
Weenerz said:
I bet the prototype Asus device will be their "droid", they seem to be showing off Mango on that device.

it's never been their business to create one flagship piece of hardware. They just make the software and let the OEMs do their thing.

That said it looks like the Nokia phones might get some special attention. I doubt they'll be some exclusive hardware but they'll definitely get the marketing dollars
 
If the Nokia deal hadn't happened I would agree that Microsoft was content to put out software and let others do as they will. That they've so committed to Nokia is, to me at least, a sign that they recognize the importance of having sexy hardware that grabs attention. At least I hope it is.

Also, what Asus phone are you referencing Weenerz? The only recent phone I've seen previewed from a new OEM is the Acer W4 or something, which didn't seem all too much better than anything out now.
 
Yeah, it's sad that Zune hasn't gotten the kind of spotlight it deserves in WP7 ads, and the culprit is very likely the fact that MS' dumb ass bureaucracy is still struggling to re-brand the product, which I think is a dumb move anyway.

You can't drop advertising money on a brand you're throwing away, and they haven't unveiled its new name yet, so this awesome service and music player (which I personally feel makes it the best music player on any PC, console or phone out today) just languishes. And one of the best reasons to own a Windows Phone is unknown to the masses while Apple soaks up the media attention for iCloud, which is awesome for different reasons entirely so I'm not dissing them either.
 
Wait for the Nokia phones. I have no doubt Nokia can (and probably will) release phones that are way better than the phones of their competition. They had a shitty OS that was holding them back all the time but their phones and parts of their software were always great.

My N93 from 06 had everything; Wireless Lan, 3G, Tethering, E-Mail, video recording, photos, two cameras for video chat, internet browser, apps, Podcasts, music, a program to synch stuff to the pc (better than Zune in some ways), backup function, upgradeable storage, Adobe reader, powerpoint, excel, word, barcode scanner, Flash Player, Real player, and more.

And that was in 2006. Still kind of blows my mind.
 
xbulletholes said:
i can't believe they have the split/thumb keyboard in ios5, i thought microsoft were onto a winner there.

What do you mean?
 
PG2G said:
I don't really see why Windows Live Messenger isn't as good (or better than) iMessaging/BBM.
Because the Windows Live app is shit and anything that doesn't queue up messages and receive then when you're out of coverage is useless as a reliable communications medium. The group support also isn't there.
 
Anno said:
If the Nokia deal hadn't happened I would agree that Microsoft was content to put out software and let others do as they will. That they've so committed to Nokia is, to me at least, a sign that they recognize the importance of having sexy hardware that grabs attention. At least I hope it is.

Also, what Asus phone are you referencing Weenerz? The only recent phone I've seen previewed from a new OEM is the Acer W4 or something, which didn't seem all too much better than anything out now.

When Pocketnow was interviewing the guy from Microsoft, he was demonstrating Mango on an Asus device.
 
Firestorm said:
Because the Windows Live app is shit and anything that doesn't queue up messages and receive then when you're out of coverage is useless as a reliable communications medium. The group support also isn't there.

I'm talking Mango
 
Earl Cazone said:
microsoft introduced split keyboard with windows 8 this week
Well Microsoft has used that before in earlier products, i think they used it in those Ultra-Mobile PCs that no one bought like 6-7 years ago.
 
Weenerz said:
When Pocketnow was interviewing the guy from Microsoft, he was demonstrating Mango on an Asus device.
That Asus phone is a prototype and will always be a prototype. They're now developer phones and Asus won't sell them in retail. Hell, Asus didn't even announce a Mango phone, nor are they one of the three new phone partners (Acer, Fujitsu, ZTE). They won't jump on board 'til 2012. The real mango dev phone is the HTC Mazaa, which is a Trophy with updated specs and a gyro, but won't be available in retail either. So right know we don't know anything about the upcoming phones with Mango.
 
giga said:
It's a smart move to take a look at what other companies are doing in addition to what you're doing. I wouldn't be too happy about the new iOS update if I were Microsoft, though. Seems like iOS users will get some of the best WP7 features in addition to what they already have. We obviously have them already but we're still lacking some (or a lot of) essential features both on the phone side and the PC software side. Hurry up, Microsoft. Make me proud. :>
 
PG2G said:
I'm talking Mango

Also remember at some point skype will be integrated with wlm.... that is when it gets really interesting but once wlm hits wp7 I am dropping my txt plan to the lowest one. It sounds like wlm post mango will match the other services.
 
Eventually both platforms will have similar core functionality. The competition right now is who gets there first. But with the user base and mindshare surrounding iOS, it wouldn't even matter to many if WP7 had all of that today; it's not an iPhone. The device is a pop icon.

jagowar said:
Also remember at some point skype will be integrated with wlm.... that is when it gets really interesting but once wlm hits wp7 I am dropping my txt plan to the lowest one. It sounds like wlm post mango will match the other services.

WLM will be useless unless all your contacts have a WP7 or are on their desktops all day though
 
giga said:
I liked Watson's reactions more


BrandonWatson We remove the pesky problem of managing photos. Now manage your data plan. We'll shove 'em down the pipe, but only hold 'em for 30days #wwdc
about 3 hours ago

BrandonWatson WTF - Zune Marketplace allows you to buy once download to other devices - what a claim that this is a first #wwdc
about 5 hours ago

BrandonWatson AAPL's most important new feature - their competition with Netflix for most bandwidth used; pics of cats & kids bringing down the net #wwdc
about 5 hours ago

BrandonWatson Wait, what? Hi, you cannot access your pictures because they were deleted from our server today, despite you seeing them yesterday #wwdc
about 5 hours ago
 
Teetris said:
Does Mango have any noticeable improvement for games? I can't seem to find any info about it
What are you expecting? They mentioned "other multi player modes", so I guess real multiplayer is in this time.
 
Meus Renaissance said:
WLM will be useless unless all your contacts have a WP7 or are on their desktops all day though

Aren't there perfectly capable WLM apps on iOS (and probably Android)?
 
Meus Renaissance said:
Eventually both platforms will have similar core functionality. The competition right now is who gets there first. But with the user base and mindshare surrounding iOS, it wouldn't even matter to many if WP7 had all of that today; it's not an iPhone. The device is a pop icon.

Uhh, you're forgetting No 1. I know Wired and every other blog makes you think it's iPhone, but it's not. The iOS platform is not only beatable, it's already been beat. WP7 needs more, better devices, because as you point out, the functionality is going to be all there. And then some. The devices aren't quite there yet, especially lacking a flagship device, and of course the full feature-based marketing that can only occur once they know what each feature is actually called (Zune).
 
Charred Greyface said:
it's relatively expensive at $15 per month.

Yeah, but that's just for the ZunePass. You can still stream any song you've purchased off the service to any device that can access the Zune services. Browser, 360, ZuneHD, etc. And have been since it was introduced years ago.
 
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