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ElNino said:
Ok, well that kills my idea for you then. For me I might give it a try seeing as I would only need a PC/Zune HD/WP and leave one spot open for a different PC.

You definitely should. Zune pass is the best $15 a month investment I've ever made and it's especially great for Windows Phone. Get in on the old plan while you can!
 
spiderman123 said:
This might sound like a dumb question but how do I get it on my Focus?! I looked for it but am unable to find the app. I only have the website pinned to my start menu.

It's a webapp (an app on the web, not a native, downloadable app).
 
spiderman123 said:
This might sound like a dumb question but how do I get it on my Focus?! I looked for it but am unable to find the app. I only have the website pinned to my start menu.

That's all it is. Just Bookmark it in IE, and you are done. GAF went this way because it was easy, and nobody has to recreate stuff each time a new OS hits.
 
spiderman123 said:
This might sound like a dumb question but how do I get it on my Focus?! I looked for it but am unable to find the app. I only have the website pinned to my start menu.

Thats pretty much it. Its just a mobile version of NeoGAF. Bookmark it or pin it like youve done.

edit: lol, beat
 
Heavy said:
Seriously? That long just for dual core phones that have been out so long
There's always android if you want to flex your epeen.

The OS runs great on 2008 hardware. I think that's a great accomplishment.
 
Well, my twitter people just disappeared from my contacts list and my "twitter only" group is empty..

going to do a reset and re-configure things..
 
Yeah I've just been doing some more reading on it and it sounds like it doesn't even matter since Mango is already really snappy. You get more battery life too since it's not dual core. I'm leaning towards Windows phone for my first smartphone purchase.
 
Heavy said:
Seriously? That long just for dual core phones that have been out so long
The issue is they really aren't needed (other than for games maybe).

WP7 generally performs better than Android because so much of it is GPU accelerated. Android basically needs fast phones. It's like LCD's hitting 120Hz, 240Hz, etc ... it's all so they can try to catch up with Plasma
 
VanMardigan said:
I looked, just for you, and couldn't find any options for that.
In that case, I think we need to add this to the MS list for things to update.


Having a 40 sec ringtone doesn't make much sense if the thing goes to voicemail way before that.
 
Heavy said:
Yeah I've just been doing some more reading on it and it sounds like it doesn't even matter since Mango is already really snappy. You get more battery life too since it's not dual core. I'm leaning towards Windows phone for my first smartphone purchase.

do it, it is super awesome! Especially with mango out now etc.

and to pimp this idea further:

vote this, so developers are able to integrate their stuff into people/me hub and threads.

http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...llow-developers-to-integrate-simple-me-or-peo
 
Heavy said:
Yeah I've just been doing some more reading on it and it sounds like it doesn't even matter since Mango is already really snappy. You get more battery life too since it's not dual core. I'm leaning towards Windows phone for my first smartphone purchase.
I'd be more interested in a better GPU and more storage than a dual core processor.

If you're thinking a windows phone, I'd wait to see the next wave which should be available soon.
 
ravien56 said:
I can get a Samsung focus for $200 new, does it run the os good? Any flaws on the phone/design?
The only big downside is the 8 GB of storage, but it runs well and looks/feels really good in person. I thought it looked pretty cheap online but it's a nice device.
 
Can those on Mango please try this for me.

Put some earphones into the phone and play a song. Then ring your number. Does the ringtone play through the earphones at any point?
 
Heavy said:
Seriously? That long just for dual core phones that have been out so long
I have my own little theory that no one could debunk so far.

Windows Phone 7 is using the Windows CE6 R3 kernel, with some bits and pieces from the CE7 kernel. The problem here is that the old CE6 R3 kernel from 2007 lacks multi-threading support and does not support more than 512 MB RAM (this is documented).

I'm not sure about this part, but it sounds plausible:
Why did they choose such a basis for a new 2009/2010 smartphone OS? Because CE7 was very late and they didn't have anything else (CE7 went RTM after WP7).

That said, they did an amazing job and you could already see that with the Zune HD in 2009.
hwalker84 said:
Truly ask yourself it it's really needed? The OS already is faster than the rest.
From a user experience perspective it's not needed, no. But from a marketing perspective it is. Even the new Mango phones are going to be a though sell for $199. They lack a second core, more RAM and LTE support and the latter will be a major con for carriers not named T-Mobile.
Raistlin said:
The issue is they really aren't needed (other than for games maybe).
Even then, devs can't use the full potential, because they can't code natively.

venne said:
I'd be more interested in a better GPU and more storage than a dual core processor.

If you're thinking a windows phone, I'd wait to see the next wave which should be available soon.
We are in the middle of the next wave. The only phones missing are the Focus S, the Sea Ray and that LG phone.
 
ravien56 said:
I can get a Samsung focus for $200 new, does it run the os good? Any flaws on the phone/design?
Great phone. I got my used for $90 on craigslist. $200 sounds like a lot to me for how old the phone is.

You can place a SD card into the phone but you need to research which ones work. I recently got a 16GB and it works perfectly.
 
Darth Tigris said:
Yikes. Does this mean we should hurry sign up for the current ZP before it goes away??? I always thought that was the feature that separated ZP from other FREE sub services.

Well, basically you'll lose 5 songs a month since the new plan is 5 bucks cheaper you can use that money to buy 5 songs anyway.

Personally I only get full albums so if I like an album it's cheaper to go buy the CD and rip it myself.
 
Meus Renaissance said:
Can those on Mango please try this for me.

Put some earphones into the phone and play a song. Then ring your number. Does the ringtone play through the earphones at any point?

just tried it , it played through the earphone and the speaker .
 
hwalker84 said:
Great phone. I got my used for $90 on craigslist. $200 sounds like a lot to me for how old the phone is.

You can place a SD card into the phone but you need to research which ones work. I recently got a 16GB and it works perfectly.
A new Samsung focus through the Rogers website is 499.99 without a contract. Even on ebay, new ones are going for 300+.
 
brotkasten said:
Yeah, more colors would be great.

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Is that on a dev unlocked phone?

If not, care to share your knowledge? PM?

Thanks
 
ravien56 said:
A new Samsung focus through the Rogers website is 499.99 without a contract. Even on ebay, new ones are going for 300+.

I got one for less than $200 a while back on Ebay. Keep looking, and don't limit your search to just "new" phones, some of them are in excellent condition and at a great price.
 
I don't know if anyone here uses the SurfCube browser (it's my favorite overall), but I just got a pretty awesome email from the dev.

The v4 beta will be hitting for those that have helped out with testing in the past. So hopefully it won't be too long before it hits the marketplace. The update looks to be ... HUGE. Here's the info I received:

You are receiving this email because in the past you have helped us with feedbacks on SurfCube.

Hello,

It’s been a while since we released a new SurfCube version. The reason is simple – we have been working hard on our biggest update yet – SurfCube 4!

Today, I would like to invite you – no, ask you – to help testing this up and coming new version. SurfCube 4 will only run on Mango devices, but if you have one, and interested in what the future of web browsing brings for Windows Phone 7, then please apply!

Here is a quick what’s new for SurfCube V4:

  • Mango features
    • New browser engine – SurfCube Uses Mango’s new, fully HTML5 compatible IE9 engine for faster and more compatible browsing
    • Full support for multitasking and fast app switching
    • Support for background audio
    • Pinnable tabs - you can pin the currently opened tabs to your Start Screen as a new tile! So, if you routinely check Engadget, WMPoweruser, WPCentral and 1800PocketPC for gadget news, you can open them from the Start Screen with a single tap:
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    • Share – we have removed our own Twitter sharing mechanism in favor of the one built into Mango. Now you can just as easily share web pages on LinkedIn, Facebook and Twitter, and you don’t even have to set the credentials through SurfCube – if you have them set up in the OS itself, you are good to go!
  • Brand new navigation mode – bottom menu. One of the most often heard complaint about SurfCube (now that we have tabs, video playback, etc solved) is that it is complicated to use. First time users are presented with a mandatory tutorial on the different methods they can use to control the cube. Now we have introduced a new method, dubbed “bottom menu” which works just like any Windows Phone 7 application, so new users should feel right at home. No more tutorials, no more tricky control schemes to learn. Of course, the old (and IMHO much cooler) navigation methods (the joystick, edge grab and phone flick) are still there – you just have to turn them on in the settings menu. Then you will be presented with a with tutorial for that one specific control scheme. These new tutorials are full of little animations to make sure that everybody gets how the control scheme is used.
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  • Tab browsing enhancements:
    • Opening a new tab now automatically takes you to the top side to let you choose a site to display in the new tab. Previously, you had to perform an additional cube rotation for this.
    • Always open tabs in… - We have had “open in background tab” and “open in new tab” context menu items on links (long press) for a while. Now, you can specify that a certain web page should open all its links in a background tab or a new tab. This makes SurfCube the best solution for browsing portals. If you want to check out the news on CNN for example, you can set its home page to open all links in a background tab. Then just tap on the links you are interested in, and by the time you have finished scanning the front page, all of the interesting articles are loaded and ready for you. To enable this feature, just long tap anywhere on the page and change the “Open Links” setting for the Page.
    • If you don’t use quick tabs, we now have an option to turn the cube back to the front from the tab side as soon as you selected a tab.
  • Even better Landscape support:
    • More space for favorites and history– we have changed the design so that you can now see 50% more items in Landscape mode on the top face of the cube.
    • Quick Tabs can now be on the top or on the right side in Landscape mode, letting you choose how much screen real estate you want to sacrifice. Flipping between the two modes is easy – just turn your phone to the other side. This is what it looks like:
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  • New Context (long tap) menu design. Since we introduced new features to the context menu, we changed the design, and now have a small pivot to choose whether the action you are about to perform is for a picture, a link or a page.
  • Faster app launch. We have decreased the application’s net launch speed by 20%. It is still not as much as we would have liked to, so we will continue to invest in app startup speed in the future.
  • Enhanced video player – The video player can handle HTML5 videos (as long as they are supported on the phone), and has a cool new position indicator while seeking within the video.
  • Joystick design – the joystick now clearly indicates which directions the cube cannot be turned in, making users feel more confident about their position on the cube.
  • Reorganized settings – we have reorganized the settings (right) face of the cube. All the cube navigation settings are on a single pivot page.
  • Favorites are now organized alphabetically
  • Tons of little bug fixes – we have fixed a lot of bugs, such as not being able to position the cursor in a text field because it brought up the context menu instead, desktop mode, Google search always opening in desktop mode, visual glitches and inconsistencies. We have also made a dozen performance fixes, so hopefully browsing will be more fluid – and fun than ever.

Sounds fucking EPIC. Definitely pumped you supports background audio. That way you can just pin an Amazon Cloud player tab to your start screen :D. Or better yet, Cloud Player plus other music sites since it supports tab groups!

Being able to default tab open behavior (in my case, to background tab) will also be really helpful in everyday use.
 
I just tried the camera and they added touch focus and shot. No more using the button. It might have been in there before, but I never found it.
 
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