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Burai said:
Indeed. You can neither tether nor set up MMS without specific carrier settings which is fucking retarded. I'm on Giff-Gaff and it became pretty obvious early on that my WP7 experience was going to be pretty tricky. Some people have emailed LG to request they add Giff-Gaff to the network setup app but I wouldn't hold your breath.

Microsoft made some pretty dumb concessions to the manufacturers and carriers.
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I doubt MS had a choice. They were in such a rush to release wp7 that they didn't see what they were getting into. That or they're really dumb and this platform has no hope.
 
Think I'm going to bite on a Lumia 800 as it will actually save me money over the next 12 months and the handset will be free anyway. My 3GS has had it anyway.

The hardware partnership is starting to seem a bit odd to me right now though, obviously Nokia's R&D budget is going to shrink tremendously but I never really pictured them as a company that was happy to be dumping pre-defined specs in a pretty box. Nokia has always been a company that thrives on innovative uses of new technology.

The talk of them pushing MS to get NFC and improved location systems into Apollo gives me some hope that Nokia will add the differentiators to the WP platform while MS brings the stability and the tools, but the proof of that will be in the Apollo announcement next year. Bit worried at this point that all that talk of Elop being an MS mole was actually wide of the mark and all we'll see from the partnership is prettier Windows Phones, that would be a massive waste in my opinion.
 
Ghost said:
The hardware partnership is starting to seem a bit odd to me right now though, obviously Nokia's R&D budget is going to shrink tremendously but I never really pictured them as a company that was happy to be dumping pre-defined specs in a pretty box. Nokia has always been a company that thrives on innovative uses of new technology.
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Have you actually seen the Symbian smartphones? Nothing about them were innovative or used new technology.

I mean, come on, a resistive touchscreen in 2009 and a 640x360 display in a 2010 high end smartphone? :lol
 
PG2G said:
Someone on XDA in the UK posted that Phones 4 U is expecting to sell out their entire launch allocation for preorders both in store and online. With some stores expecting iPhone-like launch lines...
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Wouldn't be surprised, my Phones4U in town were pushing the Lumia hard, big posters in the windows and signs out in the middle of the street for it.

Burai said:
Indeed. You can neither tether nor set up MMS without specific carrier settings which is fucking retarded. I'm on Giff-Gaff and it became pretty obvious early on that my WP7 experience was going to be pretty tricky. Some people have emailed LG to request they add Giff-Gaff to the network setup app but I wouldn't hold your breath.

Microsoft made some pretty dumb concessions to the manufacturers and carriers.
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I sent LG an email about Giffgaff's MMS stuff too but am yet to hear back. They've got Tesco in too alongside the usual O2 stuff so there is no reason bar laziness for them not to do it.

Tethering has annoyed me though that my stock Optimus 7 ROM won't have it yet carrier branded ones will have it. Baffles me frankly.
 
brotkasten said:
Have you actually seen the Symbian smartphones? Nothing about them were innovative or used new technology.

I mean, come on, a resistive touchscreen in 2009 and a 640x360 display in a 2010 high end smartphone? :lol
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They never got the detail right, but Nokia has been way ahead of its time for nearly 2 decades.

First GSM phone
First Text message
Mother fucking SNAKE!
First Built in antennae
First WAP device (wap was shit but also the precursor to everything we do now on our phones)
First phone with a HDD
NFC Payment and ticketing (Nokia did this in 2005!)

N9 has little hints of that spirit too, the touch to pair stuff is incredibly cool as is some of their aware services. MS can bring the detail to that, strike the deals with the manufacturers so Nokia doesn't remain this remote island of innovation. Probably wont happen though.
 
After reading the interview with Joe Belfiore and some of the Nokia folks, I have no doubt that Nokia will be constantly flowing requests and ideas to Microsoft. It'll be up to Microsoft to accept them or not, but there is no real reason to turn down a good idea.

I fully expect that a lot of the stuff Meego brought to the table will be in Apollo
 
Phones4U have these to play with in the UK. Went to find one at lunch, loved it, super responsive, feels really nice, looks great. I was 99% this morning so I'm biased, but I'm 100% sold now.
 
What do you guys think about making the Homescreen work more like Hubs with categories and pivots? You could still pin your favorite apps to the start screen for the live tile functionality. The current app list just looks so out of place.

Rough example:

Start screen -> Media -> Games -> Downloaded apps -> Settings
 
PSGames said:
What do you guys think about making the Homescreen work more like Hubs with categories and pivots? You could still pin your favorite apps to the start screen for the live tile functionality. The current app list just looks so out of place.

Rough example:

Start screen -> Media -> Games -> Downloaded apps -> Settings
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This actually sounds like a really nice idea, if done right. It would also enable homescreen backgrounds that everyone seems to crave.

I would prefer something like the N9, though:
Start - App list - Notifications
 
PG2G said:
After reading the interview with Joe Belfiore and some of the Nokia folks, I have no doubt that Nokia will be constantly flowing requests and ideas to Microsoft. It'll be up to Microsoft to accept them or not, but there is no real reason to turn down a good idea.

I fully expect that a lot of the stuff Meego brought to the table will be in Apollo
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i saw the exact opposite in the interviews. nokia seemed to be doing their own thing with their phones and adding it to the platform. the same way htc and samsung have created their own hubs and apps. nokia though is doing this on a much bigger scale with more freedom.

apollo, yes, will be more refined but probably due to microsoft's own improvements.

i do hope i'm wrong and nokia services are more integrated into the apollo update rather than simply nokia adding their apps to the platform.
 
just discovered WP Shortcut Tiles app. yes, now i can pin bluetooth, wifi, etc onto the start screen rather then going into the settings tile.

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thirty said:
i saw the exact opposite in the interviews. nokia seemed to be doing their own thing with their phones and adding it to the platform. the same way htc and samsung have created their own hubs and apps. nokia though is doing this on a much bigger scale with more freedom.

apollo, yes, will be more refined but probably due to microsoft's own improvements.

i do hope i'm wrong and nokia services are more integrated into the apollo update rather than simply nokia adding their apps to the platform.
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I don't really mean in terms of services, im talking about Nokia's ability in have influence on the direction of and the features that are being added to the OS.

Vlad: Joe, just to clarify, if Nokia comes to you with a new feature and says, “this is better than what you guys already have,” you’re perfectly open to taking that and integrating it into your next build?

Ricker: Or building hooks so Nokia can put it in.

Belfiore: It sounds like you’re asking kind of an obvious thing, so I don’t know… why wouldn’t I
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We're already hearing about stuff like this through the push for NFC and new location services.

Regarding Nokia's actual services, I wouldn't be surprised if certain things stayed exclusive. Things like Nokia Drive and Nokia Music are the differentiators that get you to buy Nokia instead of Samsung. I do expect the accuracy and detail of the core maps to improve though
 
http://wmpoweruser.com/qualcomm-windows-phone-7-does-not-need-dual-core-processors/

Fudzilla cornered Qualcomm to ask them about their relationship with Microsoft, and why all Windows Phones so far only have single cores.

Qualcomm said that Microsoft designed Windows Phone 7 to be very fast and fluid on single-core processors.

“Windows Phone devices are built around specific hardware requirements that drive consistent and high-quality end user experiences. Qualcomm’s Snapdragon mobile processor and chip system software, which today ships in every Windows Phone device, is redefining mobility for consumers around the world by offering an unprecedented combination of mobile processing performance, rich multimedia, GPS, high-performance graphics, wireless connectivity and power efficiency,” claims Qualcomm.

The dual-core brigade of course started with Android, and provides an interesting counterpoint to any Android user bragging about their dual core monster – that the only reason they need a dual core phone is that otherwise it would be ungodly slow if running on a single core.

Fudzilla still expects Windows Phone 7 to go dual core eventually, if only for marketing purposes.
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Anyone going to the Windows Phone event in NYC on the 7th? I'm pretty happy with my current phone (iPhone 4), but I really like how WP7 has come along so I'll be attending. Though I probably won't upgrade until WP8 or something comes out.
 
SuperBonk said:
Anyone going to the Windows Phone event in NYC on the 7th? I'm pretty happy with my current phone (iPhone 4), but I really like how WP7 has come along so I'll be attending. Though I probably won't upgrade until WP8 or something comes out.
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Way to far away for me.
 
AT&T is going to release the Focus S and the Focus Flash on November 6th.
While we've been waiting for AT&T to finally announce some dates for their new Windows Phone Mango lineup, it looks to be real close. Like next week close.

On the official AT&T Facebook page, it was announced that the Samsung Focus S ($199.99) and Focus Flash ($99.99) will be available starting November 6th--hooray!

Of course the HTC Titan is left off of that list, presumably because the big guy is still getting ready (it's tough being that large, they need extra big ships to get 'em over here from Taiwan we hear).

The Samsung Focus S, featuring a gorgeous 4.3" Super AMOLED Plus screen, super thin and light body, a 1.5GHz CPU with 8MP rear and 1.3MP cameras is sure to impress and makes a worthy successor to the original Samsung Focus. And that Focus Flash ain't no slouch either.
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I'm planning on getting the Titan, but what's the consensus here on the Focus S? I see a lot of posts talking about how terrible Samsung phones are (build quality), and a lot of posts saying they're gonna grba the Focus S as soon as it comes out.
 
Complex Shadow said:
What's the focus flash. Also I am probably gonna get a samsung phone. Just because I want that sd card slot option.
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I think the original Focus will probably be the only windows phone with an SD card for the foreseeable future. It isn't something Microsoft intended and its not something they really wanted to support.

Neither the Focus S or the Focus Flash has expandable memory AFAIK.
 
Lanbeast said:
I'm planning on getting the Titan, but what's the consensus here on the Focus S? I see a lot of posts talking about how terrible Samsung phones are (build quality), and a lot of posts saying they're gonna grba the Focus S as soon as it comes out.
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All we've seen so far is picture. I would totaly get a Titan if it wasn't for the memory.
 
Hmm, so if AT&T dropped the release date for the Samsung phones for Nov 6th, wonder what sort of added news they're planning for the Nov 7 event? Think it's just a play with the new phones event?
 
Anyone else think the $49.99 Samsung Focus with 1.4 GHz CPU is a MUUUUUUCH better deal than the $99.99 HTC Radar 4G with 1 GHz CPU? Don't know wtf HTC is doing.
 
Is there a way to get TellMe to play music/videos, simply my saying 'Play *name of song*' or something similar?
TellMe is phenomenal. Everyday I use it, and I just can't believe how this is possible. What is going on, and why isn't the entire world just mindblown here by this miracle?

Message from ***

'Read it'

And it reads your shit.

Why am I the only person going berserk over this shit? You're talking to a computer, in your phone man. Are you seeing just how miraculous this shit is? Fucking GPS on this bitch too? I said goddam.
 
Seems weird to me that the Focus S is so much more expensive than the Flash when the only differences I'm aware of are bigger screen size and more megapixels. I would think it would have more selling points for the money.
 
jonnybryce said:
Seems weird to me that the Focus S is so much more expensive than the Flash when the only differences I'm aware of are bigger screen size and more megapixels. I would think it would have more selling points for the money.
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It's really not that weird.

Thinner (10.9 mm vs 8.55 mm)
Bigger screen (3.7" vs 4.3")
Better screen (SAMOLED vs pentile free SAMOLED+)
Better front facing camera (probably VGA vs 1.3 MP)
Better camera on the back (5 MP vs 8 MP)
More storage (8 GB vs at least 16 GB)
 
Lanbeast said:
I'm planning on getting the Titan, but what's the consensus here on the Focus S? I see a lot of posts talking about how terrible Samsung phones are (build quality), and a lot of posts saying they're gonna grba the Focus S as soon as it comes out.
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Yeah I'm trying to decide between the Titan and the Focus S. I think I'll probably go with the Titan just because of the build quality.
 
Veidt said:
Is there a way to get TellMe to play music/videos, simply my saying 'Play *name of song*' or something similar?
TellMe is phenomenal. Everyday I use it, and I just can't believe how this is possible. What is going on, and why isn't the entire world just mindblown here by this miracle?

Message from ***

'Read it'

And it reads your shit.

Why am I the only person going berserk over this shit? You're talking to a computer, in your phone man. Are you seeing just how miraculous this shit is? Fucking GPS on this bitch too? I said goddam.
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It's all good for some accents but not Northern Irish ones, it can be completely hopeless at times.
 
TellMe integration is pretty limited right now, if you want a list of everything that is possible initiate TellMe and hit the question mark. It will give you a list of all available commands.

They will surely add more and more as the OS gets updated
 
jonnybryce said:
Seems weird to me that the Focus S is so much more expensive than the Flash when the only differences I'm aware of are bigger screen size and more megapixels. I would think it would have more selling points for the money.
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Higher quality screen on the Focus S, too.

Super Amoled versus Super amoled+. The Focus S won't have the pentile (RGBG) pixel structure. May or may not matter to you.

I'd definitely prefer the + screen, but I can live with the pentile.
 
Anyone feel like texts, Xbox Live messages, Facebook messages, and tweets directed at you should all be in one place since they are all essentially the same thing (private message directed at you)?
 
Greyface said:
I found a fix for my DVP screen/call bug.

Is there really no maps app that offers direction by transit? Is it possible to sideload the Nokia maps app? :?
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None of the google maps apps support it?
 
http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Blogs/blog/nokia-developer-news/2011/10/27/new-apps-prove

Next, they are going to bring 20 of the world’s best games to Windows Phone for Nokia. “This time, we’ll be designing our games for an awe-inspiring experience on Windows Phone for Nokia,” he said, noting that they plan to publish 10 games from EA as well as games from Chillingo, their indie publishing arm. There will also be seven games from the Hasbro line-up for Nokia users worldwide
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If EA developed 20 games exclusive to Nokia phones I'll be disappointed. While its good that Nokia is causing people to pick up the support, it will kind of suck if they end up exclusive. Hopefully just time exclusive.

They should encourage people to buy their phones through differentiation in design, hardware, and their in house built sw. Not by locking up exclusives.
 
PG2G said:
None of the google maps apps support it?
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I've bought gMaps Pro and Bingle maps. In the most recent update gMaps Pro added the public transit routes feature by loading up the directions from the mobile google maps website in internet explorer haha. WTF is going on? Bingle (has the nicer interface by the way) doesn't go that far and only offers routes by car, walking and cycling. Are there any other apps I should consider?
 
Greyface said:
I've bought gMaps Pro and Bingle maps. In the most recent update gMaps Pro added the public transit routes feature by loading up the directions from the mobile google maps website in internet explorer haha. WTF is going on? Bingle (has the nicer interface by the way) doesn't go that far and only offers routes by car, walking and cycling. Are there any other apps I should consider?
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check appflow if you want to find cool new apps
 
Wonder if we'll see any Tango leaks soon, just looking through the i'mawp7 app and 1% of devices using the app are apparently using Tango 'Windows Phone 7/8.x BETA 1' with version numbers like 7.1.8058 through to 7.10.8706.
 
kharma45 said:
Wonder if we'll see any Tango leaks soon, just looking through the i'mawp7 app and 1% of devices using the app are apparently using Tango 'Windows Phone 7/8.x BETA 1' with version numbers like 7.1.8058 through to 7.10.8706.
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I was looking at that app too and thought it was pretty impressive that 50% of devices are already on Mango, only a month after the release.
 
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