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PG2G said:
They updated the Facebook app to support places and photo tagging. Also looks like the text in the notification area is larger so you can actually click the links.

Still behind the other platforms but its nice to see it in active development.
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I had to uninstall my old version (0.9.0.0) to get the update. wth?
 
PG2G said:
They updated the Facebook app to support places and photo tagging. Also looks like the text in the notification area is larger so you can actually click the links.

Still behind the other platforms but its nice to see it in active development.
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Much smoother now too.
 
Microsoft is finally talking about sales.

OEMs shipped 1.5 million devices to the carriers and retailers. Remains to be seen if customers will buy the devices.

Achim Berg, corporate vice president, Mobile Communications Business and Marketing Group has announced that OEMs selling Windows Phone 7 handsets have delivered 1.5 million handsets to carriers.

“Sales are ramping well …. phones being bought and stocked by mobile operators and retailers on their way to customers. We are pleased that phone manufacturers sold over 1.5 million phones in the first six weeks, which helps build customer momentum and retail presence” he said.
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WMPowerUser: Official: 1.5 million Windows Phone 7 handsets shipped, faster than original iPhone, “a promising start”
 
antiquegamer said:
The facebook update for me without having to uninstall.

So they are using Sony tactic "ship" numbers. : P
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NEVER a good sign when you're using ship to retail numbers. That being said no need to panic yet. Gotta see what the updates in Q1 bring along with being on more carriers.

Shit needs to start picking up before the summer hits though IMO.
 
Brettison said:
NEVER a good sign when you're using ship to retail numbers. That being said no need to panic yet. Gotta see what the updates in Q1 bring along with being on more carriers.

Shit needs to start picking up before the summer hits though IMO.
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Maybe I'm a bit too pessimistic, but I don't think that will happen.
 
I think that really is depend on how fast they can patch WP7 to be at least up to par with Android and iPhone and most of all fix the little annoying things like glitch marketplace, no favorites number list, multi-cell phone number and most of all get more quality apps on to their marketplace.

It's sad that the bing search for the competing platform have better functionality than the one on their own mobile device.


Looks like the Venue Pro got a solid review from these guys ...

http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/dell-venue-pro-review

All I can say forget the Omnia 7, this Dell is one sexy looking phone.
 
antiquegamer said:
The facebook update for me without having to uninstall.

So they are using Sony tactic "ship" numbers. : P
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They are being shipped yo carriers/resellers, not direct to traditional retail outlets. Not surprising that they have to use that method.
And ms doesn't make the hardware.
 
Nokia might jump aboard the Windows Phone 7 ship as well next year. I can't imagine they would be happy or financially able to continue to support their Symbian and MeeGo OSes as their sales are anyway.
 
brotkasten said:
Maybe I'm a bit too pessimistic, but I don't think that will happen.
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I feel ya on being pessimistic, but gotta see what happens at least in the US when Verizon and Sprint bget phones. Also depends on if the iPhone jumps ship, and what happens with "4G" shit at CES.

MS has also yet to build a big new 1st party 360 game that could have WP7 hooks. I still love my phone though.
 
I'm waiting until they release the next wave of phones, maybe at CES or at other Mobile World Congress thing in February. They totally failed at the first round of hardware.
 
Korey said:
I'm waiting until they release the next wave of phones, maybe at CES or at other Mobile World Congress thing in February. They totally failed at the first round of hardware.
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My Omnia 7 rejects this post.
 
Brettison said:
NEVER a good sign when you're using ship to retail numbers. That being said no need to panic yet. Gotta see what the updates in Q1 bring along with being on more carriers.

Shit needs to start picking up before the summer hits though IMO.
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When you have 10 different phones shipping across a bazillion different carriers, it's a bit difficult to get everyone to agree to let you reveal sales numbers. What everyone does know is that the Samsung Focus is selling out like crazy, so it's pretty easy to assume that the actual sold numbers are pretty close to the shipped numbers.


The Abominable Snowman said:
Well, THE best WP7 phone, the Venue Pro, is supposed to ship tomorrow to my house, meaning I'll get it either Christmas Eve or on Monday :)
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Have you used the Venue Pro? Because I have, and I'm curious what makes you think it's THE best.
 
brotkasten said:
This post is relevant for every Zune and WP7 user outside the US

This is pretty old, I knew it was out there and I finally found it again.

Rafael Rivera, the author of the awesome WithinWindows blog, found a way to unlock location restricted features in the Zune 4.0 software right after launch. One of those features is the podcast marketplace.

It also unlocks more features, but I think the podcast marketplace is the most relevant feature for the EFIGS states.

Here's the full list:


All you have to do is to launch this reg script, restart the Zune software and you have access to the Podcasts marketplace.

There's the original article: Restore Zune 4.0’s “missing” features

e: Updated the OP.
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Works for me, thanks! Even in the UK, we don't have access to podcasts :/ kind of stupid
 
Does anyone know how to check what Apps you're currently downloading or which ones you've already downloaded? I started downloading every single Xbox Live Game (Trial) a couple of minutes ago, but there's no information about when those downloads will be completed... :/
 
Korey said:
I'm waiting until they release the next wave of phones, maybe at CES or at other Mobile World Congress thing in February. They totally failed at the first round of hardware.
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Pretty much, the launch hardware was so average. There was nothing there to excite anyone that follows tech blogs. If my phone wasn't near death, I'd probably have waited too. We need actual high end phones (like Tegra 2) to get people excited. Hopefully Microsoft hasn't handicapped themselves too much with their hardware requirements (which I truly hope actually are just minimum requirements).
 
snap0212 said:
Does anyone know how to check what Apps you're currently downloading or which ones you've already downloaded? I started downloading every single Xbox Live Game (Trial) a couple of minutes ago, but there's no information about when those downloads will be completed... :/
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In the marketplace you should see X downloads in the bottom left, click it and it should list them all with progress bars.
 
Brettison said:
NEVER a good sign when you're using ship to retail numbers.
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That's not true. Many times that's the only accurate numbers a company has.






JaggedSac said:
I think the Omnia looks to be the best of the bunch, but alas, I am in the US.
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? The Focus is practically the same phone.
And it's awesome
 
PG2G said:
Pretty much, the launch hardware was so average. There was nothing there to excite anyone that follows tech blogs. If my phone wasn't near death, I'd probably have waited too. We need actual high end phones (like Tegra 2) to get people excited. Hopefully Microsoft hasn't handicapped themselves too much with their hardware requirements (which I truly hope actually are just minimum requirements).
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That might matter if wp7 was slow (like android) but every wp7 runs silky smooth so adding tegra 2 will not make it run any faster (or a newer class of games) so there really is no point. The device variation comes in the form of the external choices (screen type/size, keyboard, cameras, etc).

What needs to happen (and should have already happened) is for microsoft to create a phone (in the zunehd vein). That would have been hardware that would have excited people imo.
 
PG2G said:
We need actual high end phones (like Tegra 2) to get people excited.
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Do you really think so? The original iPhone didn't even have 3G, it had a shitty camera and nothing about the hardware was really worth mentioning. It still sold really, really well.

Or do you mean exciting hardware to get people to leave the Apple-Island? I don't really think the average iPhone User cares about hardware specs that much. Maybe those who read the tech-blogs, but you don't sell a lot of units even if these people think you've got a great device.
PG2G said:
In the marketplace you should see X downloads in the bottom left, click it and it should list them all with progress bars.
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On the PC?
 
snap0212 said:
On the PC?
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Nope, on the phone.

Download something biggish, back out to the homescreen after it's queued, re-enter the marketplace tile and you should see the "[x] downloads" text in the bottom.
 
jagowar said:
That might matter if wp7 was slow (like android) but every wp7 runs silky smooth so adding tegra 2 will not make it run any faster (or a newer class of games) so there really is no point. The device variation comes in the form of the external choices (screen type/size, keyboard, cameras, etc).

What needs to happen (and should have already happened) is for microsoft to create a phone (in the zunehd vein). That would have been hardware that would have excited people imo.
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So Microsoft will on one hand be begging OEM's to not use Android and pay the royalties involved to license WP7 instead, and then on the other hand, Microsoft will release a line of phones that competes with said OEM's?
Additionally, since it's rather hard to differentiate on WP7, I fail to see how Microsoft realeasing a handset would help the situation any, other than just piss off the phone manufacturers.

WP7 is getting rather tempting I must say. I just want a Google Hub, and I'll be all over that shit when I upgrade.
 
Patriots7 said:
I fail to see how Microsoft realeasing a handset would help the situation any, other than just piss off the phone manufacturers.
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This. MS needs to keep phone manufacturers happy right now. If MS wanted something to act as the face of WP7, they should endorse a phone like Google are doing with their Nexus series.
 
jagowar said:
That might matter if wp7 was slow (like android) but every wp7 runs silky smooth so adding tegra 2 will not make it run any faster (or a newer class of games) so there really is no point. The device variation comes in the form of the external choices (screen type/size, keyboard, cameras, etc).
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I agree that WP7 hardware is fine for now (well, the OS performs nicely, some of the apps... not so much). Tech folks get excited about new dual core processors and stuff like that though. I think it would have gone a long way if we had a real top tier phone.

snap0212 said:
Do you really think so? The original iPhone didn't even have 3G, it had a shitty camera and nothing about the hardware was really worth mentioning. It still sold really, really well.
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I don't think its really fair to compare the original iPhone to anything nowadays, it was pretty much a game changer. There is a lot more competition now and their competitors have both better hardware and more mature software.
 
PG2G said:
I agree that WP7 hardware is fine for now (well, the OS performs nicely, some of the apps... not so much). Tech folks get excited about new dual core processors and stuff like that though. I think it would have gone a long way if we had a real top tier phone.
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Do you honestly believe that some apps perform rather shitty because the 1 Ghz Snapdragon is too slow?
 
Sir Fragula said:
Nope, on the phone.

Download something biggish, back out to the homescreen after it's queued, re-enter the marketplace tile and you should see the "[x] downloads" text in the bottom.
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Yeah, but there has to be a way to check your downloads on the PC after I've started a download on my PC (to pause them, etc). Right?
 
snap0212 said:
Yeah, but there has to be a way to check your downloads on the PC after I've started a download on my PC (to pause them, etc). Right?
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I don't think there is a way. This is one thing that Zune need to do better is the app management. Again not to beat the already dead horse, it seems that's where Microsoft bar seems to be set their bar at, to be parity with iPhone but from 4 years ago. ><

As for the first crop of Windows Phone, there are really nice one but I agree nothing really stand out. The best of the bunch for me would be Omnia 7 but then we didn't get that in the States. The top tier phone I think was suppose to be the Venue Pro but with the launch bungle and problem of the early units really taint that status.

The review seems good and the phone do looks great, that curve glass and the back that don't look like cheap plastic toys (yes Samsung) really give the phone the high quality look. I love my Focus and the screen is godly but damm if the phone is not cheap looking and generic.

One thing I get from reading tech sites, they really seems to be bias against Windows Phone 7 ...
 
They have a good reason to be biased against WP7..

Microsoft knew that they would be launching while missing major features (multitasking, copy/paste, turn by turn nav) that their big competitors already have in their operating systems.

Tech sites like to see progress.. they attacked the iPhone for its lack of features when it launched and that was 3 years ago. (Tech) people expect more out of a mobile operating system than what Microsoft has given them at this point in the game.

I will be among the first to say that experience wise, WP7 is on a very high tier with regard to the native applications that come with the OS. I've never seen such blinding speed in navigating the OS or such thoughtful UI design in most areas of the OS on other platforms. The iPhone always had hiccups here and there or would hard freeze on occasion.. and android can't get a device powerful enough to run it without lagging.. Gingerbread looks to improve this situation a lot.. it looks far more fluid than any other Android version to date, but google isn't there yet. Android lacks a cohesive experience and it lacks the performance properties of an operating system tailored to a specific hardware specification.

As for application performance (or lack thereof), everyone (outside of Microsoft) so far is relegated to writing their apps using Silverlight or XNA, which is one of the reasons 3rd party app performance isn't up to par with the built-in stuff.

If Microsoft allows developers to write native applications for the device instead of forcing them to use XNA or Silverlight, I think we'd see a lot of faster loading applications and better-performing applications.

The features will come.. Microsoft is obviously heavily invested in the platform.. I want them to succeed.. it's one of the best ideas that they've ever come up with, but I'm not one of the people that Microsoft needs to sell on their platform.
 
Robobandit said:
Microsoft knew that they would be launching while missing major features (multitasking, copy/paste, turn by turn nav) that their big competitors already have in their operating systems.
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Is this not available in the US? I got Navigon's software for free (T-Mobile sponsored it) and it works just fine.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
They are being shipped yo carriers/resellers, not direct to traditional retail outlets. Not surprising that they have to use that method.
And ms doesn't make the hardware.
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Google doesn't make hardware either, but they know how many phones are being activated by users.
 
snap0212 said:
Yeah, but there has to be a way to check your downloads on the PC after I've started a download on my PC (to pause them, etc). Right?
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On the Zune software, click on Marketplace at the top, then you'll see a tab for downloads below that. That tab is only there when there are actual downloads happening, otherwise you won't see it.
 
VanMardigan said:
On the Zune software, click on Marketplace at the top, then you'll see a tab for downloads below that. That tab is only there when there are actual downloads happening, otherwise you won't see it.
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But you don't see apps in the download queue.

e: Could someone slap me, please? Apps show up in the queue, but they're so small, you won't see it if you don't immediately to the download tab.

e2: Most of the time the apps are even too small to open up the download tab. They should definitely fix this.
 
After messing around trying to do various theme ... I realize there should be save setting for the phone (preferably on the cloud or at least on your computer Zune). It would be nice to be able to wipe the phone and full restore it using Zune or Live. Option to save theme set like Windows 7 would be really nice (including ringtone, sound notification).
 
Most people don't know this, but if you have some complains or feature requests regarding the Zune service or software client, it helps to write a mail to askzune@microsoft.com or contact the hosts of the Zune Insider podcast, Matt and Jessica, via Zune. The tags are 'skipdeez' and 'Jetherealz'.
 
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