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I agree that the manufacturers have been trending towards candybar phones but that doesn't necessarily mean that customers are leading, or even following, the trend. The manufacturers could be making more candybar phones for many different reasons including: they are cheaper to make, and they dovetail nicely with another marketing ploy ("thinnest phone ever").
Personally I've been trending towards sliders which are, more often than not, the phones with hardware keyboards. When I got my first legit smartphone, the iPhone 3G, it could barely be called a computer. Now smartphones have the same screen resolution as the 13" Macbook Pro. During that span, the software input experience has barely changed. For all the swyping and penning, good hardware keyboards still offer the best experience. I do a lot more typing on my smartphone ranging from typing up multiple paragraph posts on GAF to making multiple page documents in Microsoft Office or iWork. When I pick up an iPhone in the future I'll chose to get a keyboard along with it.
no big deal to them but you do need to be sure you activate 4G on your data plan (and change your wife's back) otherwise you will not be able to access data without WiFi. If you have a grandfathered unlimited plan (or any data plan) they will convert it to 4G no charge.
I did the same and had to call and fix it. The rep also told me to go to store and pick up a 4G sim card for my number if I wanted to take "full advantage" of the data speed but I do not know if that is true.
EDIT: UPDATE... by the way ATT will call you on the expected delivery day of your phone to be sure you got it and it is working, that would be the time to tell them you decided you would be using new phone isntead of wife and to set up the data plans and phone IMEI numbers correctly. should be fairly painless.
You know whats funny now.
My girlfriend has become an Android fanboy (Nexus S) but she constantly installs so much shit she makes the phone unstable (she's had to wipe to factory at least 4 times). Well last week it finally got to the point where it totally shot Best Buy couldn't do anything and it has to go back to Samsung.
After seeing how frustrated she was with her old backup Blackberry i paid for one of those unlock codes on eBay Sunday.
Yesterday after two days of use she's now torn between the two phones. LMAO. Windows Phone about to convert another one.
My girlfriend has become an Android fanboy (Nexus S) but she constantly installs so much shit she makes the phone unstable (she's had to wipe to factory at least 4 times). Well last week it finally got to the point where it totally shot Best Buy couldn't do anything and it has to go back to Samsung.
After seeing how frustrated she was with her old backup Blackberry i paid for one of those unlock codes on eBay Sunday.
Yesterday after two days of use she's now torn between the two phones. LMAO. Windows Phone about to convert another one.
They released multiple phones so that they would have models at multiple price ranges.
and? that still doesn't explain or justify why every model is a candybar.
Matthew Panzarino Reviews the Nokia Lumia 800 ★
Jon Gold on the Nokia Lumia ★
They'll probably never switch but someone should start compiling and updating a nice comparison chart** of the best/most popular WP7 apps and their counterparts on other platforms. In my eyes, some of the WP7 third party apps already look better.
**there was one that Microsoft UI developers used to trot out. Anyone got a link?
newdayrocks
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I'm getting fed up waiting for Verizon Wireless to release the Galaxy Nexus, and said to myself, "Why not check out VZW's Windows Phones?" But then I checked out my options.
Is the Trophy seriously still the only available model? Is there any word of something bigger and better coming to Verizon soon?
Is the Trophy seriously still the only available model? Is there any word of something bigger and better coming to Verizon soon?
There are nokia rumors.
brotkasten
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There's some speculation that a Nokia Windows Phone (w/LTE) could hit Verizon in H1 2012, since some of their staff was at the Lumia 710/800 unveiling at Nokia World in London last month.
Ya know, that's a great idea. Not it.
Joel Was Right
If you smell burning, it's probably the generators acting up. Report it anyway.
The marketing for the Lumia is insane. I've seen more ads in the past few weeks than in the past year
So both Windows Phone OS and Android OS have flagship phones this year that are arguably the best devices they've ever put out for their respective platforms, and they aren't available in the US (the biggest market for consumer electronics) for the holiday shopping season (the biggest shopping season of the year)?
This seems rather silly to me.
This seems rather silly to me.
Yeah they're everywhere, billboards, papers, TV, cinema.
woahitsreeo
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There are a lot of generics on eBay and Amazon. AT&T sells a couple of cases by case-mate. And there are some official HTC branded cases by expansys-usa. I got a generic one from eBay that came with a screen protector and car charger for $13 (mainly for the screen protector). Not sure just yet if I want to ultimately sport the Titan naked or protected just yet though.
Complex Shadow
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DAT DROID HATE.
titan came...
quick impressions...
Do NOT compare side by side to focus S, turn off focus S and the titan will look great. Next to F/S it's no comparison, even on white screen, VIVID is the word on focus/S. the white on titan is definitely in the WARM spectrum red tint) where the focus is cool and appears brighter wherever there is white.
Once I turned F/S off titan is starting to look really good. but still less vivid in daylight. heh!
Call quality on speaker or handset are good! very please so far but more testing to do as phone calls are important as I run my business on this phone for the most part. I may swap the F/S for another and see if my speaker phone is a lemon or just get another titan for back up as the titan screen seems a little exposed.
I've read of scratching and such and the way the guts fit in the body it is a little sloppy but it's an interesting way to fir such abig screen in a small footprint, relatively.
Love the bigger real estate so far but will run it for two-three days and make a decision.
overall I like it
quick impressions...
Do NOT compare side by side to focus S, turn off focus S and the titan will look great. Next to F/S it's no comparison, even on white screen, VIVID is the word on focus/S. the white on titan is definitely in the WARM spectrum red tint) where the focus is cool and appears brighter wherever there is white.
Once I turned F/S off titan is starting to look really good. but still less vivid in daylight. heh!
Call quality on speaker or handset are good! very please so far but more testing to do as phone calls are important as I run my business on this phone for the most part. I may swap the F/S for another and see if my speaker phone is a lemon or just get another titan for back up as the titan screen seems a little exposed.
I've read of scratching and such and the way the guts fit in the body it is a little sloppy but it's an interesting way to fir such abig screen in a small footprint, relatively.
Love the bigger real estate so far but will run it for two-three days and make a decision.
overall I like it
Steelyuhas
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Titan is in the US, so not sure what your talking about.
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So is the Lumia actually doing pretty well? That's good to hear, Nokia's previous flagships have been one bomba after another.
I guess basically if I can use it the way I use BBM now. Is it something that's just always on and it notifies you when someone messages you? Can you be signed into it and desktop Live Messenger at the same time and have it perfectly synced? If you reply to someone on your desktop is the notification still there on the phone?
For example when I had Live Messenger on my BlackBerry it would sign out often if I hit areas with no coverage which was kind of annoying. It want it to automatically sign in again and push any messages I missed through like BBM would.
A reminder to all of you that just bought new Windows Phones:
https://windowsphone.promo.eprize.com/redemptionprogram/:b=ie9/
Free $25 gift card to the marketplace. Just a heads up though, you need to upload a copy of your sales receipt and a copy of the UPC on the side of the box to get the card, so you might as well have them ready.
https://windowsphone.promo.eprize.com/redemptionprogram/:b=ie9/
Free $25 gift card to the marketplace. Just a heads up though, you need to upload a copy of your sales receipt and a copy of the UPC on the side of the box to get the card, so you might as well have them ready.
frontieruk
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Never used BBM so can't compare, but I can test the other bits...
Yes it allows you to sign in at multiple places, the desktop app shows that you're signed in on a phone and allows you to sign it out remotely.
I signed out of my phone and sent a message and signed back in and the message came through, I signed in on my laptop and phone and sent myself a message, it appeared in both locations.
I left my laptop signed in signed the phone out and sent another message it appeared on laptop but when I signed back in on phone it didn't come through I'd assume as it was considered delivered.
If you leave the phone as signed in it will auto reconnect after losing signal, hope this helps.
Some analysts said they were below expectations (estimated 500k by year end) other analysts said met expectations (estimated 2 mil by year end). Nokia said it was doing well. Probably won't know until Nokia releases its financials.
Complex Shadow
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Is this a limited time thing. ffs first phone to come to Canada I'll take it.
Edit:
son of a fuge.
I genuinely feel bad for you Northlanders being left out of all this excitement.
antiquegamer
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After a day with Titan here is some of my initial impression.
+ screen is lovely and I am getting used to the bigger tiles. I actually really do like the less saturated color.
+ phone is big but still fit nicely. It feel solid in hand and I will probably used it naked. The back is almost like having a case built in.
+ battery for some reason last me longer than the Focus.
+ good reception.
+ app run faster and smoother. Pulse used to lag and stutter a bit on my old Focus but not on the Titan.
Some of the stuff that bug me a bit.
- I do miss the deep black on the Amoled.
- the buttons are terrible. Probably worst thing about the Titan. It's hard to turn the phone on and the volume rocker just not very responsive at all.
- while phone is big, it doesn't feel big but if you have one of the thin phone like Focus, Focus S or any of the Galaxy II phone you will feel the weight after holding Titan for a while.
- sometime the screen lag a bit not sure why. On occasion it would take a bit to register. It could be that my one hand gesturing is all off because device is so much bigger. I will have to give it a few more day.
- viewing angle is not as good as my old Focus.
I don't think you can go wrong going with either the Focus S or Titan. They are both solid phone. Another thing I want to mention is how smooth it was to switch from my Focus to the Titan.
I will used it a few more days and give an impression. That said if this phone wasn't free, I think I would be perfectly happy with my old Focus.
+ screen is lovely and I am getting used to the bigger tiles. I actually really do like the less saturated color.
+ phone is big but still fit nicely. It feel solid in hand and I will probably used it naked. The back is almost like having a case built in.
+ battery for some reason last me longer than the Focus.
+ good reception.
+ app run faster and smoother. Pulse used to lag and stutter a bit on my old Focus but not on the Titan.
Some of the stuff that bug me a bit.
- I do miss the deep black on the Amoled.
- the buttons are terrible. Probably worst thing about the Titan. It's hard to turn the phone on and the volume rocker just not very responsive at all.
- while phone is big, it doesn't feel big but if you have one of the thin phone like Focus, Focus S or any of the Galaxy II phone you will feel the weight after holding Titan for a while.
- sometime the screen lag a bit not sure why. On occasion it would take a bit to register. It could be that my one hand gesturing is all off because device is so much bigger. I will have to give it a few more day.
- viewing angle is not as good as my old Focus.
I don't think you can go wrong going with either the Focus S or Titan. They are both solid phone. Another thing I want to mention is how smooth it was to switch from my Focus to the Titan.
I will used it a few more days and give an impression. That said if this phone wasn't free, I think I would be perfectly happy with my old Focus.
Complex Shadow
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does the focus s have expandable memory?
Psychotext
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Sooo.... I finally set up my Lumia 800 and it's working ok.
Any apps I should be considering? Not really too interested in games as I hardly have time for the ones I already have. I'd consider trying anything particularly good though.
Would really like a location based alarm / reminder app. I've tried one and it wasn't great. Don't know if there are any others out there. Also, probably need a jabber client, but the ratings on the ones I'm finding by searching are awful.
Any apps I should be considering? Not really too interested in games as I hardly have time for the ones I already have. I'd consider trying anything particularly good though.
Would really like a location based alarm / reminder app. I've tried one and it wasn't great. Don't know if there are any others out there. Also, probably need a jabber client, but the ratings on the ones I'm finding by searching are awful.
No gen 2 phone have expandable memory. It's a nightmare on wp7.
Complex Shadow
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i am sure there is a windows phone 7 app thread. try doing a google site search
lumia 700 has it, but then again it has gen 1 hardware.
lumia 700 has it, but then again it has gen 1 hardware.
Psychotext
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Thanks, I'll have a look.
I've really been enjoying Windows Phone 7, but apps are getting to be an issue for me. I have no idea what's good, and I hate that a lot of the good games are Xbox Live enabled, therefore at least twice as expensive as they would otherwise be. And I don't have a clue about any good free or cheaper games on there. Seriously, even on Android, I didn't have a problem at all finding good cheap/free games. I've downloaded a few on WP7, but none good.
Psychotext
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Hmmm... the thread is dead. Is it generally considered ok to bump threads that haven't been posted in for over 4 months?
Complex Shadow
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yes. just ask for apps. others will follow. e.g look above you .
dream
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They'll never switch because the truth is they don't really like WP7 that much. That's why every Apple blogger's review of WP7 always sounds the same - it's just a passive aggressive fuck you to Android.
Awesome! Thanks! I guess one last thing is, if you have a conversation on your PC while logged in on your phone, do you have to clear the notifications on your phone afterwards? Just curious on it. Not a dealbreaker.
This should help smooth my transition when the Lumia 800/900 comes out here.
antiquegamer
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If your device and carrier support tethering then it will just work. I am not sure what you mean by unlock, there an option in the setting that turn on your Internet sharing and if your phone and carrier support it then you just turn it on.
You can unlock it as well, even if your carrier doesn't. On my Focus, I payed for the Chevron unlock token (because I never bothered to do it pre-NoDo and didn't feel like rolling back), then deployed an app from XDA and it enabled ICS (WiFi tethering).
feel the exact same way in my short time except the no case part and that I'd still probably pay for the large screen but free is a no brainer.
Complex Shadow
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Are u on AT&T ?
antiquegamer
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No he's on T-mo. I think in the US only new phones support tethering unless you unlock your phone.
Saw this on another forum. I know it's supposed to be there, but I have all the updates I can "receive" and I don't have ICS.
Edit: :lol
No update was showing on my phone, but as soon as I connected it to my Mac, it was showing an update. Go figure!
HTC Titan users, read this:
http://www.wpcentral.com/htc-titans-graphics-stutter-tied-srs-enhancement
http://www.wpcentral.com/htc-titans-graphics-stutter-tied-srs-enhancement
antiquegamer
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Ah I stand corrected then. I guess only on the crappy AT&t where only 2nd Gen phones come with tethering option.
chaosblade
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I also don't really like the buttons on the Titan. And I don't really like buttons on the top of a phone in general. I really liked the placement of the power button the Focus Flash, on the side of the phone where your thumb/index finger would be (depending on what hand you're holding it in). Flash also turned on the screen with the Windows button, Titan doesn't.
Kind of agree with that review that mentioned the antenna being in the phone "case" instead of being with the rest of the phone hardware. Might never cause any problems, who knows.
Those are my only gripes so far. It's big, but it's right on the line between just big enough and too big for me. Don't think I'd bite on anything bigger. And the battery life seems pretty good too.
Kind of agree with that review that mentioned the antenna being in the phone "case" instead of being with the rest of the phone hardware. Might never cause any problems, who knows.
Those are my only gripes so far. It's big, but it's right on the line between just big enough and too big for me. Don't think I'd bite on anything bigger. And the battery life seems pretty good too.
Man, I'm glad I got over the app craze before I moved from iOS to this. I can't help but feel like there is a goldmine just waiting to be tapped while going through the marketplace. There WAS a lot of total crap on the iPhone app store, but there were also a handful of gems that were really fun to pick up now and again. This OS is so much prettier and flows so much better than the iPhone, so it's a really attractive platform, but it really is kind of lacking when it comes to apps.
I wish I knew how to program anything beyond input/outputting text and if/else statements, because I would start developing apps as of yesterday.
I wish I knew how to program anything beyond input/outputting text and if/else statements, because I would start developing apps as of yesterday.
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