Winter 2012 Anime Thread 2.22: You Can (Not) Outpost Cajunator

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damn it! The OVA ended with a big cliffhanger and it looks like the manga will never find the way out of Japan.

I'm impressed. The show was pretty accurate with real manufactors and even some real drivers. And it was well animated and a more realistic racing without the crazy stuff like Initial D.
 
PdotMichael said:
Tresure Island wirh all the alcohol consume?
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That was one of the things not explicitly edited out. At the time, and from what I've seen commented, the majority of people (and those in charge of green-lighting the emission of that content on TV) were comprehensive of the entire context in which those shows were made into, and the reason those shows were imported in first place as well.

Apparently (and unfortunately) it doesn't seem to happen the same with recent shows, dubbed by a certain infamous company.
 
Dresden said:
The new thread may go like this:
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Half of those quotes will be from the OP itself. Gotta start things off right.

sonicmj1 said:
Maybe I'm just blocking things out, but I don't remember any School Days-esque painathons last season. Except for whatever icarus was doing.
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Dresden said:
Not as many juniors coming in last season.
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Yeah, a lot of fresh blood trying to bleed themselves dry right out the gate.

Jexhius said:
I guess there will be a lot less time for such things but only because everyone will be trying to watch twenty shows at once.
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It's going to be a glorious hell.
 
sonicmj1 said:
This would also be less of a problem if there were more good shows to watch this season. Last season, we were sharing a lot of discussion each week about whatever was running, but right now I don't feel like there are a lot of shows that people want to talk about.

When Spring rolls around, there will probably be less (emphasis on) trolling with bad shows.
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True, but we could always do an artificial new season. An "Anime-GAF Watches" like they have on the gaming side, maybe.

Coming to consensus on what to watch would maybe (definitely) be the part it all breaks down though.

And why bother when there's so many people still willing to watch Blood C solely for the entertainment for others? It's the gift that keeps on giving.
 
duckroll said:
The problem is that it's not clever or deep. It's a pretty straightforward show which the majority of people who have seen it have no trouble understanding. You seem unique in that aspect. So the conclusion here is that there's something wrong with you if you can't understand something simple, not the show.
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Yeah, maybe it's too simple/ simplistic for me. Wouldn't be the first time.

Just kidding. The first eight episodes are not straight forward at all. Why does Gekkostate exist? Because surfers are anarchists? That's as "obvious" as it's stupid. If Gekkostate is as subversive and dangerous to the government as the first few episodes imply, and considering every child knows their faces (as Holland and even Renton grace fucking magazine covers), why would the government still work with them? They know whom they're dealing with. And considering the goverment tried to blow them to smithereens more than once, why would Gekkostate even pretend to work with them? And go as far as meeting them in person? Why does nobody tell Renton what they do, and why doesn't he ever ask? Why did he even join? Because he wants Eureka's ass? Is that really supposed to be it? Or is it some weird shit like "fate"? Any show drawing that card can fuck right off - worst plot device in the history of plot devices. That's that, and I haven't even started to go into detail.
 
Blood-C - 02

I forgot to comment on it for the first episode, but the music is fantastic. The action scenes were fun, but it's getting quite hard to trudge through all the school-life parts because there's just about no chemistry between the cast which makes 70% of the episode boring.

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Even for CLAMP, that's surely a bit too much..

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Saya will be such a wonderful waifu.
 
wsippel said:
[...]They know whom they're dealing with. And considering the goverment tried to blow them to smithereens more than once, why would Gekkostate even pretend to work with them? And go as far as meeting them in person? Why does nobody tell Renton what they do, and why doesn't he ever ask? Why did he even join? Because he wants Eureka's ass? Is that really supposed to be it? Or is it some weird shit like "fate"? Any show drawing that card can fuck right off - worst plot device in the history of plot devices. That's that, and I haven't even started to go into detail.
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Don't hold back, it's best to go into more detail on this subject because I think it would give a more thorough understanding of your opinion on this, especially when you're discussing a fairly well received work.

I eagerly await your response.
 
Hix said:
True, but we could always do an artificial new season. An "Anime-GAF Watches" like they have on the gaming side, maybe.

Coming to consensus on what to watch would maybe (definitely) be the part it all breaks down though.

And why bother when there's so many people still willing to watch Blood C solely for the entertainment for others? It's the gift that keeps on giving.
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As I attempted to be the change I wish to see in Anime-GAF, I made my own artificial "new" season this time around, based on stuff I wanted to watch and (carefully-screened!) suggestions about good shows from the last few years. Now I'm watching one episode a week of Usagi Drop, Tatami Galaxy, Bakemonogatari, Trapeze, and Level-E, and I'm very happy. The shows are almost all as good as I was told they would be. My friends are all like, "Why do you watch all these obscure shows?" and I get to feel like the smugly superior anime hipster I wish to be.

It's not a bad idea to spread to more people, but usually they have lots of current stuff they wish to watch. I certainly wouldn't have done it last season, when I was trying to follow four or five shows at once already.

You can join me for the last few episodes, if you want.
 
sonicmj1 said:
It's true. I've been watching nothing but good shows, and people only seem to care what I say when I get pissed at particular episodes/Bakemonogatari.
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It's more common dissenting opinions will be expressed and talked about, inviting more discussion, than everyone reaffirming one another about how good something was.

Maybe the problem is that I don't post enough cute screencaps of Rin in my Usagi Drop impressions.
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Please don't propagate this anymore than it needs to be :(
 
Dynedom said:
Woah, one of the alternate titles for BRS 2012 on AniDB is in arabic.

Middle east otaku redeemed?
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Seems like a lazy title translation. They just translated the Shooter part and kept the Black Rock the same.

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It is amazing to see how much love some people on Arabic-speaking countries profess for shows of that era, and their own adaptations, to the point of stating how much superior some of the aspects were in those, flooding with opinions like the always present "the opening of Treasure Island in Arabic is much better than any other by a large margin" many discussions or video webpages. But better judge yourself on this:

▌Treasure Island | Arabic Opening | Subtitles | جزيرة الكنز
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt2YGu1afU8

I have to admit it is, indeed, a very nice substitute... and this is a good excuse to post about Mr. Dezaki's goodness
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The guy that the vocals for this song also did the ones for Grendizer. He is pretty famous dude cause of it. You can instantly recognize his voice in any work.
 
Jexhius said:
Don't hold back, it's best to go into more detail on this subject because I think it would give a more thorough understanding of your opinion on this, especially when you're discussing a fairly well received work.

I eagerly await your response.
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Well, there are episodes six and seven for example. There's naive, and then there's stupid - which is precisely what Ganta Renton is. I have a hard time caring for a protagonist who's not just a whiny, spineless bitch, but also seemingly more oblivious and stupid than an amoeba. Then again, not a single character in this show seems any more intelligent than a roundworm.
 
wsippel said:
Well, there are episodes six and seven for example. There's naive, and then there's stupid - which is precisely what Ganta Renton is. I have a hard time caring for a protagonist who's not just a whiny, spineless bitch, but also seemingly more oblivious and stupid than an amoeba. Then again, not a single character in this show seems any more intelligent than a roundworm.
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You can be specific if you want.
 
wsippel said:
Yeah, maybe it's too simple/ simplistic for me. Wouldn't be the first time.

Just kidding. The first eight episodes are not straight forward at all. Why does Gekkostate exist? Because surfers are anarchists? That's as "obvious" as it's stupid. If Gekkostate is as subversive and dangerous to the government as the first few episodes imply, and considering every child knows their faces (as Holland and even Renton grace fucking magazine covers), why would the government still work with them? They know whom they're dealing with. And considering the goverment tried to blow them to smithereens more than once, why would Gekkostate even pretend to work with them? And go as far as meeting them in person? Why does nobody tell Renton what they do, and why doesn't he ever ask? Why did he even join? Because he wants Eureka's ass? Is that really supposed to be it? Or is it some weird shit like "fate"? Any show drawing that card can fuck right off - worst plot device in the history of plot devices. That's that, and I haven't even started to go into detail.
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It's been years since I've watched the show, so I'm murky on the details, but a few of the stuff you're complaining about are things that people grasp intuitively, I think, because they're not complicated or "deep" in any way, shape, or form.

Things like Renton joining Gekko State--you see in the beginning that Renton dreams of flight. He also idolizes them; the magazines, the boards, etc. The things that prevent him from flight: the newly erected fence from the military, the lack of connections, along with his connection to his grandfather. There's the mystery of his heritage. None of these are things they need to spell out, because it's there in the background and in how they are implied. And by the end of episode two the things that curtail him from flight, from leaving, are eliminated, and he takes that leap off the precipice, which culminates with him finally being able to escape. We don't question why he'd join Gekko State because we know that he's idolized them, not as terrorists, but as trapar-heroes, surf gods, etc. And then there's Eureka and we all know boys do crazy shit for cute chicks, man.

Nobody tells Renton what's up because he's new, and he's just a kid, and they don't trust him. Trust is built as the show goes on.

He wants Eureka's ass, which is puzzling as she has none, but hey. Kids.
 
wsippel said:
Well, there are episodes six and seven for example. There's naive, and then there's stupid - which is precisely what Ganta Renton is. I have a hard time caring for a protagonist who's not just a whiny, spineless bitch, but also seemingly more oblivious and stupid than an amoeba. Then again, not a single character in this show seems any more intelligent than a roundworm.
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Renton's a naive, lovelorn little-kid. In ways, I'd prefer he be that than the usual 'this writer can't handle kids for shit cause this kid's mental age is about 20 years older than his appearance.' Problem is, that's just not all that interesting to the adult viewer unless surrounded by very interesting foils. Geckostate doesn't work for some, I thought they did enough.
 
Envelope said:
I tried to watch Milky Holmes 2, but I didn't enjoy the first 2 episodes at all, is the third really that much better?
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The first two episodes of S2 are the worst two of the entire franchise.

DiGiKerot said:
Depends what you are after, but I'm inclined to say yes - it goes well beyond being goofy into being utterly insane.

Saying that, whilst the episodes that have followed were at least better than the first two, it's not been as amusing as the third episode again.
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Yeah, it's quite unfortunate that the second season isn't as good as the first one was, but at least it has some good episodes... :)

Envelope said:
I didn't care for the Accel World manga, it's just another
boring cliched romance where the perfect girl falls for the worthless guy, who turns into SUPER COOL DUDE in the alternate world. The MC is the standard "why am I so worthless" character, who defeats all his opponents because he has HEART.
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Yeah, sounds like one to ignore.
 
Finding Renton to be "spineless bitch" based on the first 6 or 7 episodes or whatever says enough to me about the person watching the show, it's a warped view. It doesn't describe him at all.
 
Not gonna lie, I've been legitimately interested in checking out Blood-C for a while and now these impressions have me wanting to watch it even more to see how big of a trainwreck this gets.

Anyhow;

Blood-C Episode 02

Oh lawd, CLAMP proportions.

Poor class rep is totally getting friend-zone'd. Man even the twins are cheering him on.

Not even the mysterious handsome delinquent can resist Saya's cuteness.


And another fight scene. This is becoming a monster of the week sorta thing isn't it?

Hmmmm.
 
Goddamnit, why the hell does this thread have to move so damn fast.

Right, anyway...

High School DxD 7

Man, that felt like a filler episode. An excuse to introduce other people and get a mascot. Well, at the least things look mildly interesting next episode... And by mildly interesting I mean filled with T&A.

Wait, I'm not actually getting INTO this show am I? DAMNIT, BUT IT'S SO BAD!

Moretsu Pirates 7

So classy. Marika all dolled up was a bit of an AHA moment too. Finally some vaguely morally ambiguous stuff coming next episode and they she can finally see what it's like to be a REAL pirate, not just a luxury liner entertainer.

Daily Lives of High School Boys 7

Literature Girl was the best, but damn if the skit right after the opening credits didn't make me pause. Why can't this show go on forever? ;_______;

Papa no Iukoto wo Kikinasai! 7

God, still so bad... Except for Raika... Man, she's the best part of that show BAR NONE. She makes everything else funny and interesting. Sako is still the kind of guy I would lure to an abandoned building and ritualistically murder, but even that creep lolicon couldn't bring down how awesome Raika is. Shame about Sora and her romantic thing for her (totally not blood related!) uncle. If it were only Raika, I would be able to call this show a bit sloppy, but good. I do wonder what's next though. That
landlady sure is a stuck up bitch. I mean, who the fuck kicks a single parent to THREE kids out of his apartment with a 30 day notice? Sure, there's the contract, but shouldn't she, you know, try and find out the circumstances?

Only reason I'm enjoying this in the end is Raika though, and the MC isn't a TOTAL loss. He's better than most other Harem protags at least... which isn't saying much...
 
Can I request those now watching Blood-C provide predictions for how things will get brain-melting after viewing the fourth and eighth episodes? It'd be interesting to contrast expectations and reality as things progress.
 
Dresden said:
It's been years since I've watched the show, so I'm murky on the details, but a few of the stuff you're complaining about are things that people grasp intuitively, I think, because they're not complicated or "deep" in any way, shape, or form.

Things like Renton joining Gekko State--you see in the beginning that Renton dreams of flight. He also idolizes them; the magazines, the boards, etc. The things that prevent him from flight: the newly erected fence from the military, the lack of connections, along with his connection to his grandfather. There's the mystery of his heritage. None of these are things they need to spell out, because it's there in the background and in how they are implied. And by the end of episode two the things that curtail him from flight, from leaving, are eliminated, and he takes that leap off the precipice, which culminates with him finally being able to escape. We don't question why he'd join Gekko State because we know that he's idolized them, not as terrorists, but as trapar-heroes, surf gods, etc. And then there's Eureka and we all know boys do crazy shit for cute chicks, man.

Nobody tells Renton what's up because he's new, and he's just a kid, and they don't trust him. Trust is built as the show goes on.

He wants Eureka's ass, which is puzzling as she has none, but hey. Kids.
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You know, that's actually what I thought. I'm just not buying it. Maybe because I'm too old. But then again, I've never idolized anyone, so it might be even harder for me to swallow.

The problem is that the whole show is too naive for it's own good. Having recently finished FMA Brotherhood, another show I'm technically far too old for, this becomes even more obvious. FMA became too naive at the very end, but at least there always were a few "chaotic good" characters to keep some balance. And I could accept the "I won't kill anyone" sentiment. It probably would have worked all the way through if it were a little less blatant in the end, but I like and sympathize with characters that have ideals. I just have a hard time dealing with stupid characters. And Renton is stupid, not realizin that the other dudes are fucking with him in ep 7. Gekkostate is stupid for hazing him by putting him against some (supposedly) dangerous yakuzas without any backup plans. The military is stupid for actually being surprised when the most prolific terrorist organization is double crossing them in ep 8. No matter how well regarded the show is, it reaches outlandish levels of stupidity.
 
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