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Winter 2012 Anime Thread 2.22: You Can (Not) Outpost Cajunator
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Summer Wars
Ha.
Ha ha.
GAF, you were kidding when you ranked this movie so high, right? Or did I just come in with too much expectations?
Ha.
Ha ha.
GAF, you were kidding when you ranked this movie so high, right? Or did I just come in with too much expectations?
Let's see... i'm going to start out with the most glaring flaw. The female lead.
Simply put, she's not very interesting. For 90% of the movie the only thing she was doing was drooling over her uncle as one of those one-dimensional side characters you would find in many other romance animes. And then somehow, towards the end she takes on a huge role in the plot. Erm, that's fine I guess. But then waaaay out of left field she falls in love with the main character after not showing the slightest interest in him for 99% of the movie. It's like the writer/director/whoever was responsible thought "Oh shit, we forgot to hook up the main character with his romantic interest. Let's just shoehorn it at the conclusion and pretend it was a natural progression!" I just couldn't help but cringe really hard.
The art and the animation was great. Throughout the movie I had many moments where I legitimately felt part of their family. The house had a lot of detail and some of the scenes were quite pretty.
Characters (for the most part) were very well done. I liked the family and their many different personalities and squabbles and it all gelled together very well. Was sad when the great-grandma died.
The story itself was passable. I didn't find it all that interesting and thought it was a bit ridiculous that they couldn't do something simple like shut down the servers and then delete the A.I. Also, I'm not american but it's also stupid how the military fuckups are always blamed on the U.S in anime.
So to sum it up, the movie was decent but it was nowhere close to the expectations I had for it. Oh well.
Simply put, she's not very interesting. For 90% of the movie the only thing she was doing was drooling over her uncle as one of those one-dimensional side characters you would find in many other romance animes. And then somehow, towards the end she takes on a huge role in the plot. Erm, that's fine I guess. But then waaaay out of left field she falls in love with the main character after not showing the slightest interest in him for 99% of the movie. It's like the writer/director/whoever was responsible thought "Oh shit, we forgot to hook up the main character with his romantic interest. Let's just shoehorn it at the conclusion and pretend it was a natural progression!" I just couldn't help but cringe really hard.
The art and the animation was great. Throughout the movie I had many moments where I legitimately felt part of their family. The house had a lot of detail and some of the scenes were quite pretty.
Characters (for the most part) were very well done. I liked the family and their many different personalities and squabbles and it all gelled together very well. Was sad when the great-grandma died.
The story itself was passable. I didn't find it all that interesting and thought it was a bit ridiculous that they couldn't do something simple like shut down the servers and then delete the A.I. Also, I'm not american but it's also stupid how the military fuckups are always blamed on the U.S in anime.
So to sum it up, the movie was decent but it was nowhere close to the expectations I had for it. Oh well.
If there is any impact at all, it will mean that Sunrise and Bandai will focus more on the older core market now and spend more money targeting our taste than that of younger children.
Neko Mimi Mode
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Stellvia of the Universe 1
Tackling some of my mountain of backlogged older anime DVD/BDs that I bought only because they were cheap. This one actually looks promising. Directed by Tatsuo Sato, or "That guy who directed Nadesico", what could go wrong?
Anyways, it looks fun. Sort of getting the "coming of age" vibes from the main character Shima, who just wants to "see the stars". She seems sweet and just a touch pouty given her age, more what I'd expect from a school anime protag than a sci-fi. That said, they've already introduced a dearth of supporting characters who look just as interesting if not more. I like character-based anime, so I may stick with this one.
The Dub sounds terrible, should I be surprised? Animation is good though, even some CG effects and the like. Moe chicks piloting space fighter-crafts because why not? Looking forward to seeing how this develops.
Tackling some of my mountain of backlogged older anime DVD/BDs that I bought only because they were cheap. This one actually looks promising. Directed by Tatsuo Sato, or "That guy who directed Nadesico", what could go wrong?
Anyways, it looks fun. Sort of getting the "coming of age" vibes from the main character Shima, who just wants to "see the stars". She seems sweet and just a touch pouty given her age, more what I'd expect from a school anime protag than a sci-fi. That said, they've already introduced a dearth of supporting characters who look just as interesting if not more. I like character-based anime, so I may stick with this one.
The Dub sounds terrible, should I be surprised? Animation is good though, even some CG effects and the like. Moe chicks piloting space fighter-crafts because why not? Looking forward to seeing how this develops.
Anncast Sexism Episode 2/10/2012 (I think this fits here?)
This show is usually bad...but this episode is borderline surreal. At first I found the whole situation funny. The ANNcast ringleader rounded up a bunch of women to get indignant about sexism. Some ways in things turned more sad. Is this really the way people think? In an effort to combat what they think is sexist a bunch of people cast aspersions over large swathes of people both in and out of the context of anime.
Now I'm mostly just confused. Like, how am I supposed to process the level of stupidity, snobbery, and ignorance here? This is only exacerbated by the context of having a conversation that is supposed to confront a type of discrimination. By the end of the podcast, everything was just offensive.
The messages I'm left with are that women can be whatever they want, as long as it is X, Y, and Z. Also, women shouldn't fall in love with men ever, because that would mean they are dependent on men, and that would be horrible and sexist.
The more I think about the things in this podcast the more confused I am. How is Mirai Nikki sexist? The whole show is based around two people who need each other to survive. This is augmented with a strain on that relationship by the psychotic inducing trauma one of the two had, but nothing about the show really strikes me as painting one gender in a specific way. How is B Gata H Kei sexist? Because it's about a girl who is interested in a guy that's less attractive than her? The absurdity of the examples peaks with K-on, which evidently uses girls being friends and hanging out as a device to propagate some yuri agenda that is also sexist.
This podcast is probably the most pathetic thing I will listen to all year. A bunch of people out of touch with reality vilify men and women with different sets of ideals and philosophies for being "sexist" or something. I don't even know anymore, but wow, this was just really disgusting.
This show is usually bad...but this episode is borderline surreal. At first I found the whole situation funny. The ANNcast ringleader rounded up a bunch of women to get indignant about sexism. Some ways in things turned more sad. Is this really the way people think? In an effort to combat what they think is sexist a bunch of people cast aspersions over large swathes of people both in and out of the context of anime.
Now I'm mostly just confused. Like, how am I supposed to process the level of stupidity, snobbery, and ignorance here? This is only exacerbated by the context of having a conversation that is supposed to confront a type of discrimination. By the end of the podcast, everything was just offensive.
The messages I'm left with are that women can be whatever they want, as long as it is X, Y, and Z. Also, women shouldn't fall in love with men ever, because that would mean they are dependent on men, and that would be horrible and sexist.
The more I think about the things in this podcast the more confused I am. How is Mirai Nikki sexist? The whole show is based around two people who need each other to survive. This is augmented with a strain on that relationship by the psychotic inducing trauma one of the two had, but nothing about the show really strikes me as painting one gender in a specific way. How is B Gata H Kei sexist? Because it's about a girl who is interested in a guy that's less attractive than her? The absurdity of the examples peaks with K-on, which evidently uses girls being friends and hanging out as a device to propagate some yuri agenda that is also sexist.
This podcast is probably the most pathetic thing I will listen to all year. A bunch of people out of touch with reality vilify men and women with different sets of ideals and philosophies for being "sexist" or something. I don't even know anymore, but wow, this was just really disgusting.
That should happen... but what if they go the opposite direction and do something like the Chinese Gundam SEED knockoff! Hino's chance of redemption!
Any more news on Origin apart from the actual announcement?
Stop, you're killing me! Lololol.
I don't think we'll hear anything more about Origin until at the earliest later this year. The target demographic is basically the same as Unicorn, so they probably want to focus on finishing that up first.
Unknown Soldier
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The only thing ANN was ever good for was it's database, and now that we have the far superior anidb.net, there's nothing that ANN is good for. Hopefully you will learn a valuable lesson and never visit that terrible site ever again.
Anidb.net is superior? How so? I just had a look at it, and its far less complete than ANN's, and much harder to get any sort of accurate information on who worked on what.
Another 6
http://i.imgur.com/aTVaC.jpg
Happy Birthday me!
Great episode <3
Oh also:
http://i.imgur.com/aTVaC.jpg
Happy Birthday me!
So he comes to class on the 13th of July brandishing a knife and spouts some depressing lines about why he didn't understand/couldn't understand and saying there was no way he could forgive them/himself (can't remember the exact line). Brilliant birthday gift.
Great episode <3
Oh also:
The gender of the "another" isn't confirmed since the curse seems to mess with peoples memories as they cannot remember exactly what went on
Unknown Soldier
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Huh? I only visit anidb.net for the ratings, which is all I ever visited ANN's database for. If it's ever important for me to know who worked on what, I'm sure Animu-GAF will repeatedly inform me until it's burned into my memory forever. :3
I don't think anyone gives a crap about the ratings on any site. The only thing ANN is good for is for their show and staff database, which users help to update to the best of our ability. It's a great reference source as long as it is accurate. User ratings = ROFLMAO GTFO.
Unknown Soldier
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Whatever, I guess it's too much to expect the esteemed and distinguished gentlemen and ladies monocles of Animu-GAF to understand what use the user ratings might be to ordinary anime fans. There's always self-selection bias when dealing with user ratings but it's still better than having absolutely no idea of how good other people think something is at all.
I would argue that it actually isn't at all. People got bad taste and stuff. Probably better to go in without any knowledge than bad knowledge.
ANN is highly useful for the staff encyclopedia, although it is incomplete and sometimes incorrect (bad name grouping etc.)
Neko Mimi Mode
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I rely somewhat on user ratings too, not having the time nor inclination to sink finances into bad anime (or bad anything, really). I tend to stick with it's score on MAL though, anything over 7 is A-OK.
I do not actively visit ANN for anything other than their database (which I find to be very comprehensive). I am subscribed to the ANNcast through a third party program and as a fan of podcasts I check in on it from time to time. I typically listen to podcasts as I go to sleep, so in certain cases content can be irrelevant. This episode was unusually offensive and uneducated.
Neko Mimi Mode
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I don't, but I'm not about to second-guess the reasons people rate an anime as poor. It's likely if a small amount of people rate it as poor, then that's their own failing. If thousands of people rate it as poor, chances are I probably will as well.
Dude, just talk about subversions of heroes, hybrid forms between Euripidean and Aeschylean tragedy, hubris... waffle for ten pages and you're done.
(I still don't understand the "pages" thing from American universities. Why don't you get asked for word counts? Some people have big handwriting/use tiny fonts in Word etc.)
See if you can get in a reference to Plato's Symposium. There's a discussion about how all human beings used to be roundcats before we got split in half, and that's why some people are lesbians.
Neko Mimi Mode
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Can't I just rely on you (and AnimeGAF in general) to bring those to my attention? It's far safer than wading through the sea of mediocrity for that one drop of greatness XD
EDIT;
Looks interesting, I'll check that one out then (you better be right!)
Did you wake up to Madoka?
Unknown Soldier
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School Days.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Frankly the far more sensible solution IMO is make everyone move out, burn the whole goddamn town down, and make a new one elsewhere. It's not a huge city or anything, I'm sure they could swing it.
Is School Days actively bad, though? It's a "troll" anime in that the content is pretty horrifying, but does that negate any other qualities it may actually have? Do people regret having watched it in the end?
PdotMichael
Banned
Yes.
Unknown Soldier
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They generally also specify what font you can use, how wide the margins are allowed to be, and what line spacing is allowed. Yeah, they could just go with exact word counts, but I guess pages is always how it's been done here.
Which proves my point precisely.
MAL lost what little credibility it had for me when I saw the user rating for Guilty Crown.
7.85
Well, I can be trusted at least.
Unknown Soldier
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Goddammit, where's that Mr. Burns laughing GIF when I need it? I know Branduil and DrForester use it, help me out here!
Neko Mimi Mode
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School Days is great! The plot is quite in-depth, a real head-splitter!
MAL gives it a rating over 8, last time I checked. So clearly the system isn't perfect.
MAL gives it a rating over 8, last time I checked. So clearly the system isn't perfect.
Don't worry, when GC finishes and you had to have watched a quarter of a show for your rating to count.... (I think that's how MAL works) it will skyrocket up!
Trojita
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Maybe
It's pretty bad. There isn't much quality in the actual direction, art, writing, pacing, or animation.
Right, well I won't make any time for it then.
Blood-C fulfilled all my anime trolling needs for now
I loved Blood-C, bring on the film!
But you see, that's exactly it. It's so bad that it's actually an entertaining watch. Being plain boring is one thing, but being bad enough to bring out your inner rage means that it's worth your time.
(IMO)
Unknown Soldier
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During their romantic moonlight stroll, Mei tells Kouichi that she has nothing to worry about regarding the curse, and then proceeds to tell the story of how she almost died. It's a pretty clear implication from that little conversation arc that she's telling Kouichi that she's immune because she almost died once before.
Yes... School Days is an excellent romantic story.
I think it was explicitly implied with Kouichi's mother, who we find out died during her time in the town when giving birth.
Wings of Honnêamise
I don't know what to write here. It is a masterpiece, but for some reason I didn't enjoy it that much. The only time I really felt like the movie had a hold on me was toward the end,
Pizzaroll called it "hard sci-fi" but the science portrayed in Honneamise is, as far as I can tell, completely accurate. I would say it is better described as alternate history fiction. There were no fantastical elements at all, or anything even remotely speculative.
The thing that bothered me most was how all the characters could, regardless of background, launch into a sociological/philosophical monologue. I would expect that from the scientist, and the general, but not from Shiro and his layabout friends.
I don't know what to write here. It is a masterpiece, but for some reason I didn't enjoy it that much. The only time I really felt like the movie had a hold on me was toward the end,
when they were racing against time to launch. I teared up a bit at the end, before the Gainax montage, which I felt was out of place.
Pizzaroll called it "hard sci-fi" but the science portrayed in Honneamise is, as far as I can tell, completely accurate. I would say it is better described as alternate history fiction. There were no fantastical elements at all, or anything even remotely speculative.
The thing that bothered me most was how all the characters could, regardless of background, launch into a sociological/philosophical monologue. I would expect that from the scientist, and the general, but not from Shiro and his layabout friends.
"Properly animated" or not, I find difficult to deny how extremely cool in the animation department were some of the moments of Captain Tsubasa J, could you?
It could be proper for the mere tools of this distant 'cold war' recreation they are, to express that kind of experience they are in... making social commentaries on the times drawing obvious parallel lines was like a requisite for the characters, maybe it can be called a 'fourth wall' break of some sorts.
I definitely felt that, at certain times in Honneamise, I wasn't listening to the characters themselves but the writer/director speaking directly through the characters. While I don't mind characters conveying the agendas of their creators, it should be subtle, at least, and fit into the overall tone/setting.
Yes... School Days is an excellent romantic story.
duckroll I expected, but the rest of you? For shame. School Days is quality Shakespearean style shit. Absolutely brilliant. How could you NOT like it. You all have no taste.
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