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[hosannainexcelsis]

No no, it means I'm Bakemonogatari's biggest fan. After all, I've seen it three times.

Even the snake arc?

 

[Instro]

Nise would have been great as a short set of OVAs.

Even the snake arc?

He's seen that 5 times.

 

[Jex]

Even the snake arc?

Can't say that such an arc is really worth revisiting.

 

[cajunator]

Even the snake arc?

No one can resist Kana Hanazawa. NO ONE.

Can't say that such an arc is really worth revisiting.

denial.

 

[jman2050]

No part of Nise comes close to being as bad as the first 1.5 episodes of Nadeko garbage.

 

[Jex]

Actually, and I honestly can't believe I'm saying this, I'm getting the feeling you and others put Bakemonogatari on too high a pedestal.

It's not really a question of putting it on a high pedestal and declaring that its inherently a great show for the ages, or anything like that. It's the ability look at all the various qualities it has and say that I'm disappointed that another show, in this case Nisemonogatari, lacks in so many areas that the original had going for it.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

No part of Nise comes close to being as bad as the first 1.5 episodes of Nadeko garbage.

Although the BD version of the snake arc and Nise 4 are perhaps equally distasteful, the direction in Nise is worse.

 

[Jex]

I coined it, but I'm starting to think that maybe we can just return to the word "cute".

Look what you've created. You've ruined the English language forever!

 

[jman2050]

Although the BD version of the snake arc and Nise 4 are perhaps equally distasteful, the direction in Nise is worse.

Shinobu trumps Nadeko any day every day. Even unclothed.

 

[cajunator]

No part of Nise comes close to being as bad as the first 1.5 episodes of Nadeko garbage.

It was the weakest set of episodes, but Hanazawa's voice kept pulling me back. That's why they used her voice after all. Its like Otaku magnet.

 

[Jex]

If I had to pick one hnngghh show from the winter season out of these two, which one should it be?

Rinne no Lagrange
Ano Natsu

I vote for Ano Natsu - it's the more confident of the two.

Ano Natsu.
Easily.
Maru and Wan are powerful, powerrful things, but ano Natsu gives you a choice between several very hnnngable characters, inclusing a big boobie alien, an adorable sadist, a drunken friendzone girl who occasionally wears cat ears, and other surprises!

Rinne is a terrible show.

Ano Natsu is an enjoyable, if somewhat predictable romcom. It's filled with cute, entertaining, and enjoyable characters. Definitely go for this one.

These people all speak the truth, but for different reasons. I don't actually qualified to chose one show over another based on "hnngh" because I don't have the faintest idea what that means.

 

[cajunator]

Jex is clearly a liar.
an adorable tsundere liar.

 

[Thoraxes]

Although the BD version of the snake arc and Nise 4 are perhaps equally distasteful, the direction in Nise is worse.

All I can think of now is that reaaaallly suggestive scene with the snake on her body.

 

[Jex]

I don't think suspense is a necessary element in a romance in like regards to "who ends up with who" it's the journey that matters; unless you are talking about suspense in reference to that, in which case I agree with you.

You can't trust people like this - they read the endings for romance shows ahead of time and don't consider it 'really' a spoiler!

True. If I'd taken the time to write out the rest of my thoughts rather than leaving it there, it's that shoujo/josei is often much better about this kind of thing. Perhaps it's the nature of shounen/seinen romance?

I think the problem with AnoNatsu's establishing plot is its reliance on apparent archetypes. "Childhood friends" are SO overused that their emotional arcs tend to all be similar, particularly in the case of a show like this where the whole point is that the protagonist and the alien fall in love.

Then the bishounen guy and the shy girl with big tits (god, I can't remember any of their names!) will have some kind of slow-burning subplot until their mutual attraction is revealed, because their entire story is signposted through every single character interaction they share. There's nothing romantic about it because their chemistry is inorganic.[...]

I will however, say that in this matters execution is far more important to me than simply the concept and the relationship patters.

 

[jman2050]

I will however, say that in this matters execution is far more important to me than simply the concept and the relationship patters.

I prefer to say that 'generic' isn't strictly a pejorative and that cliches become cliches for a reason.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

Shinobu trumps Nadeko any day every day. Even unclothed.

Admittedly Shinobu's dialogue is more interesting.

I prefer to say that 'generic' isn't strictly a pejorative and that cliches become cliches for a reason.

There is nothing new under the sun, and all that.

 

[Jex]

Also AnimeGaf, I'm thinking about preordering this for around $450:

Does it seem extremely high for 26 episodes with animation fixes, 4 bluray discs, a PS3 game, and an art book? Also, would buying it from a secondary market be cheaper?

I have never imported bluray anime before but I know it reaches really high prices.

It's really up to you to decide how much you think it's wroth. I'd certainly never pay that much money for it.

 

[dimb]

Can't say that such an arc is really worth revisiting.

I don't really remember it being that radically different from the rest of the series. In certain areas I would almost say it excels past other sections of the show. It's probably Bake/Nise at its visual peak.

 

[Haly]

You know what I want in Nise 11?

Spoiler

Tsukihi: "I CAN'T CONTROL IT!"

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

In newly announced anime news:

• Some Fate spinoff manga is getting animated, but it's not Fate/Zero so who cares?
• King Records' Starchild label has a "K" anime project which is clearly teasing Ikuhara's followup to Penguin Drum. Who am I kidding, it's going to be something no one cares about.

 

[Jex]

There is nothing new under the sun, and all that.

Well, that's what you and I might have thought, but that's before the Toothbrush scene. Now we all know that creativity is far from dead.

 

[cajunator]

the thing about setsl ike those, is the vlaue goes up extremely quickly once they are OOP. This has made the cost of the Fate Zero set for example, make more sense as it is an exclusive item. It is just a matter of not quite feeling worth that to me as I didn't enjoy the series THAT much. ALthough I do generally love Fate Stay Night.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

I don't really remember it being that radically different from the rest of the series.

Nadeko is the least interesting character of the show, her problem lacks emotional impact, the dialogue isn't witty, there's really nothing going for it outside of creepy fanservice.

 

[Jex]

Too late.

This thread is currently in one of it's classier iterations, frankly.

Sailor Moon 8

Time for Sailor Mercury! Apart from the swirling music in Mercury's transformation, I must say that right now I prefer Sailor Moon's.

This episode was filled with great faces and humor.

You know who needs to embrace expressive faces? Sunrise. The various recent works in the Gundam franchise seem to have the world's stiffest and most boring faces. Even SHAFT does this better!

 

[dakkumauji]

In newly announced anime news:

• Some Fate spinoff manga is getting animated, but it's not Fate/Zero so who cares?
• King Records' Starchild label has a "K" anime project which is clearly teasing Ikuhara's followup to Penguin Drum. Who am I kidding, it's going to be something no one cares about.

It sounds like Fate/Magical Girl. Yes, please. I love non-serious Naruverse stuff.

 

[cajunator]

Gundam does have some boring artwork sometimes. One reason I dont get into the series at all.
Studio 4C oftentimes does some pretty amazing stuff with facial expressions.

 

[Jex]

This is actually a pretty amazing idea. Having your waifu motivate you to wake up in the morning? Brilliant.

What other reason is there for bothering to get up in this cruel, cold world, after all.

 

[InsaneZero]

• Some Fate spinoff manga is getting animated, but it's not Fate/Zero so who cares?

I'm going to give this piece of news a big enthusiastic "meh".

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

You know who needs to embrace expressive faces? Sunrise. The various recent works in the Gundam franchise seem to have the world's stiffest and most boring faces. Even SHAFT does this better!

Sunrise should take a lesson from their own Gintama!

 

[cajunator]

What other reason is there for bothering to get up in this cruel, cold world, after all.

To purchase more anime stuff. Can't do that while I'm sleeping! (yet)

 

[Jex]

Has 4 different voice sequences to select from (no random option).



1) Wake up! It’s morning!
…Auu, I’ll have to try harder!
WAKE UP!!
Oh! Good morning! I’m happy you woke up.
Wh-what? A reward for keeping my promise to wake you up?
Well, um…I’d love to go out together somewhere!

2) Good morning! It’s time for our morning training!
T-Today for sure I’m going to get past* you!
So hurry out of bed and let’s get started.
Hauuu… No, don’t go back to sleep…
…Although…his sleeping face looks so content…tee-hee…

(*The verb used here for “get past” also has a slang meaning of rub one out/hand job, so this line also sounds like, “T-Today for sure I’m going to get you off!”)

3) Good morning. It’s about time to wake up.
Fauu…he’s not getting up…
Oh, Maho just mailed me.
Let’s see…”Kiss him while he’s defenseless”
Fueehh?!
Uuuu… I’ve already been finding it hard to look him
in the face lately…my heart flutters so much for some reason.
Now with Maho saying things like that, I really
can’t look at him…

4) Mmm…*sigh*…
Fueh!? *shriek*!! I-I’m sorry!
I grabbed and squeezed without even realizing it…
It’s so strong…and warm…
It just feels so good I couldn’t help it…
…What? Mine felt good, too?
I hope we can hold hands tomorrow, too!

I take back what I said earlier. This thread isn't classy at all!

 

[cajunator]

what do you have against Kana Hanazawa?
You monster.

 

[dimb]

Nadeko is the least interesting character of the show, her problem lacks emotional impact, the dialogue isn't witty, there's really nothing going for it outside of creepy fanservice.

It's actually kind of like Nise in a way. The problem may belong to her, but the show focuses in on other characters. There's a lot of Kanbaru, some Hanekawa, and it builds a lot on the tension between Araragi's relationship with Senjougahara and his growing harem. It's fairly short and to the point, and even though it might be creepy fanservice I felt like all of the stuff with the snake as an ethereal entity was handled well. It lasts for all of two episodes and she isn't even in one of them. Is she really that unbearable?

 

[Jex]

Sunrise should take a lesson from their own Gintama!

They seem to think that they can only doing in shows which are comedies. It's an odd approach to take, because it's not like they're investing in heavily realistic facial animation during Gundam - just stiff mannequins.

 

[Basileus777]

[*]
[*]Some Fate spinoff manga is getting animated, but it's not Fate/Zero so who cares?
[/LIST]

Isn't that the magical girl Illya spin off?

It sounds like Fate/Magical Girl. Yes, please. I love non-serious Naruverse stuff.

I doubt it will be as amusing as Carnival Phantasm.

 

[cajunator]

It's actually kind of like Nise in a way. The problem may belong to her, but the show focuses in on other characters. There's a lot of Kanbaru, some Hanekawa, and it builds a lot on the tension between Araragi's relationship with Senjougahara and his growing harem. It's fairly short and to the point, and even though it might be creepy fanservice I felt like all of the stuff with the snake as an ethereal entity was handled well. It lasts for all of two episodes and she isn't even in one of them. Is she really that unbearable?

She isn't the best or worst girl in the series. She was just kind of there. But her voice, and DAT OP. Good stuff. The show is Senjou's to lose anyway.

 

[Jex]

I'll probably take a more passive approach to this. Nothing else to do? Knock out an ep or two. I doubt I'll make a strong run at the series.

There's always something else to do. Read a book. Learn a language. Practice an instrument. Play in the sun. Watch paint dry.

 

[cajunator]

There's always something else to do. Read a book. Learn a language. Practice an instrument. Play in the sun. Watch paint dry.

In my case, go fishing in a very large swamp.

 

[dakkumauji]

Isn't that the magical girl Illya spin off?



I doubt it will be as amusing as Carnival Phantasm.

Well nothing will be. But, second place is better than nothing!

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

It's actually kind of like Nise in a way. The problem may belong to her, but the show focuses in on other characters. There's a lot of Kanbaru, some Hanekawa, and it builds a lot on the tension between Araragi's relationship with Senjougahara and his growing harem. It's fairly short and to the point, and even though it might be creepy fanservice I felt like all of the stuff with the snake as an ethereal entity was handled well. It lasts for all of two episodes and she isn't even in one of them. Is she really that unbearable?

Yes. And she is totally in both episodes, wriggling around naked and everything.

They seem to think that they can only doing in shows which are comedies. It's an odd approach to take, because it's not like they're investing in heavily realistic facial animation during Gundam - just stiff mannequins.

These days Sunrise's best staff are working on their comedy shows.

 

[Jex]

It's actually kind of like Nise in a way. The problem may belong to her, but the show focuses in on other characters. There's a lot of Kanbaru, some Hanekawa, and it builds a lot on the tension between Araragi's relationship with Senjougahara and his growing harem. It's fairly short and to the point, and even though it might be creepy fanservice I felt like all of the stuff with the snake as an ethereal entity was handled well. It lasts for all of two episodes and she isn't even in one of them. Is she really that unbearable?

Yes, actually. She's a really boring, bland character who totally fails to engage in any of the interesting back-and-forth banter that makes other characters so enjoyable. She exists only to engage in some of the most extreme, hentai-inspired fanservice in the whole show including tentacle-rape. I don't think much more needs to be said.

Oh, and in the TV airing the second episode of the arc had less animation than final episodes of Evangelion. Which is still better than what they inserted after the fact.

 

[cajunator]

I can't disagree with you there.
Nadeko had one purpose and it was to further the...PLOT.

 

[wonzo]

Bodacious Space Pirates 10

holy shit, pirate captain chiaki fucking owns. i wonder if space usagi's gonna stick around after they find the ghost ship.

 

[Jex]

Nise 10

Not as bad as I was expecting based on some impressions here. It's still really disappointing that it took so long to even get to this point with the show deciding that it's much more important we witness what a supreme pervert Araragi is in extreme tender detail for episodes on end but if there's one thing I've come to expect from this show is a certain degree of disappointment permeating throughout. That and trashiness, of course.

And dammit I'm gonna have to concede that Shinobu is pretty darn cute (when fully clothed).

Now now, episode 10 clearly shows that he's not as bad as you might have thought. After all

Spoiler

she's not really his sister!

She's just some middle school girl! Oh.

That he thinks is his sister. Oh. Well. Fuck.

 

[InfiniteNine]

Nadeko is my waifu.

 

[NewFresh]

I take back what I said earlier. This thread isn't classy at all!

You have to take the good with the...well, whatever that is.

 

[Jex]

You people are not making me watch BRS. I must be strong.

You and me both buddy.

You guys should really watch the Black Rock Shooter OVA before the TV show.

That's like advising people to take a sedative.

 

[cajunator]

Bodacious Space Pirates 10



holy shit, pirate captain chiaki fucking owns. i wonder if space usagi's gonna stick around after they find the ghost ship.

Of course she owns. She's the best character in the show by a mile.
Naturally, when given an outfit fitting with the theme of this show she would destroy.

 

[Jex]

Rinne no Lagrange 09:
On a note not necessarily related to just this series, am I the only one that finds it difficult to accept civilizations whose technology is so advanced that they're capable of space travel yet are still monarchies? I'm probably just looking at this through the lens of an American that has had "DEMOCRACY IS THE ONLY GOOD FORM OF GOVERNMENT" pounded into his head his whole life, but the amount of reason necessary to achieve such feats of science just feels so enormously at odds with the irrationality of rule by heredity. I love the mix of imperialism and space in science fiction as much as anyone, but when I begin to think about it too much, it can take me out of the story. Probably more so in Lagrange considering that

Spoiler

humans, De Metrians, and Le Garitans all originated on the same planet. How does Earth, the least-advanced of these peoples, end up with the least-tyrannical form of government

?

Your assumption that democracy is the final or even best form of government is flawed from the outset.

 

[Erigu]

I don't know if it's unreasonable to expect a sequel to be as good as the original.

Just see it this way: Nisemonogatari is a bonus scenario. A special. "Koyomi's Summer Break".
It introduces a few new characters and hints at the actual sequel.