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Winter 2012 Anime Thread 2.22: You Can (Not) Outpost Cajunator

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Jex

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Perhaps more worryingly there are probably people brand new to the whole 'anime thing' who use lists like this to decide what to watch:

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I can only hope they don't start with the first title.
 

cajunator

Banned

The correct answer here is that Ano Hana is recent and cowboy Bebop is not.
CB is a classic anime series even by my measure, but the majority of people who probably vote on these shows are younger generation kids. They know a lot more about ano Hana than they do about Cowboy Bebop.
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Just for comparison:

Evangelion

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Clannad

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Steins;Gate

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As you can see, ANN fan ratings are truly useless. They can't be used to differentiate excellent titles from utter trash. It all looks the same.

I honestly don't get this at all.

Are you arguing that Evangelion is better than the other two? I mean you can take that stance but maybe you should realize you are the one who is wrong. Not everybody else. Clannad AS and Steins;Gate are much better shows than Evangelion.
 
Perhaps more worryingly there are probably people brand new to the whole 'anime thing' who use lists like this to decide what to watch:

topmen.png

"Oh jesus, I was going to watch some Cowboy Bebop and Evangelion, but looks like I need to tackle Clannad After Story and FMA: Brotherhood first! Thanks ANN!"

The correct answer here is that Ano Hana is recent and cowboy Bebop is not.
CB is a classic anime series even by my measure, but the majority of people who probably vote on these shows are younger generation kids. They know a lot more about ano Hana than they do about Cowboy Bebop.

That's true. I don't dislike Ano Hana, don't get me wrong. I'm just a little surprised by it's popularity. There's actually people out there who think it's the greatest anime ever. That's just bonkers.

You're a monster.

That reminds me, I haven't seen Monster yet either. It's probably in crappy 4:3 too, seems only newer anime can take the hint.
 
Another reason ANN sucks is Bobobo being in the bottom 50. Something is seriously wrong with those people.

So question about the end of the Edolas arc of Fairy Tail
they keep saying how Edolas Erza has good in her heart so are they just forgetting about all the people she supposedly killed?

The rule is if you don't directly see someone killing people, they can be forgiven very easily and portrayed as good. Sometimes that isn't even necessary.

Daily Lives of High School Boys 10

Best bike segment ever.
 

cajunator

Banned
Perhaps more worryingly there are probably people brand new to the whole 'anime thing' who use lists like this to decide what to watch:

topmen.png


I can only hope they don't start with the first title.

There's nothing worrying about that list. that's an excellent list actually.
I've enjoyed all of that except Full Metal Alchemist.
 

Jex

Member
Like how game review scores really go from 7-10, ANN ratings go from Very Good to Masterpiece.

There seems to be a pretty clear problem inherent to this whole scoring system - people who don't really care for a show, or can't be bothered to finish it, probably wouldn't muster the energy to cast a vote about it on ANN. It's naturally going to be the people who are excited for a woke that vote for it.
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
Awesome, I haven't seen Utena either so I think I'll join you, it's an AnimeGAF Sacred Cow (tm) after all.

DVDs appear to be cheapish on Amazon UK, native 4:3 (when will they learn?) of course, but I can fix that.
Yeah they should've cropped it to go against the aspect ratio it was made in & throw out anything the people who storyboarded the show wanted to accomplish for because some people can't deal with black bars. Durr.

Worst new AnimeGAF member.
 

Jex

Member
I honestly don't get this at all.

Are you arguing that Evangelion is better than the other two? I mean you can take that stance but maybe you should realize you are the one who is wrong. Not everybody else. Clannad AS and Steins;Gate are much better shows than Evangelion.

I'm just saying that all these shows are really highly-rated, so you can't tell them apart.

Incidentally, of course Evangelion is better show, but that's besides the point.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
I'm used to seeing some pretty terrible top ten anime lists, but I think I'm always most puzzled by the frequent presence of Clannad After Story. Not just because of my anti-KyoAni hipsterism and my distaste for harems, I'm always baffled about why this particular series seems to be considered BEST EVAR by so many anime watchers.

Gotta get with the times. These days it's a Facebook Like or zilch!

Well, Jex did promise me internet fame...
 
Perhaps more worryingly there are probably people brand new to the whole 'anime thing' who use lists like this to decide what to watch:

topmen.png


I can only hope they don't start with the first title.

Well they are probably rated so high as average anime watchers like them. So they are good place to start for newcomers to anime. Then when you have watched anime for some time you start to appreciate more the non mainstream material. I must say that MAL has better top list though.
 
Yeah they should've cropped it to go against the aspect ratio it was made in & throw out anything the people who storyboarded the show wanted to accomplish for because some people can't deal with black bars. Durr.

Worst new AnimeGAF member.

I give you plenty of good reasons to post though, that's gotta count for something.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
I have to admit that while my personal top ten wouldn't be so egregious as to include dreck like AnoHana, it would still be a disconcertingly mainstream list to most of you.

Another reason ANN sucks is Bobobo being in the bottom 50. Something is seriously wrong with those people.

Fuck that. Bobobo is god's gift to comedies based primarily around prehensile nose hair.
 

cajunator

Banned
It's really not a bad list for casual anime fans. People more into the hobby certainly have much different lists. These shows appeal to many people. It's not hard to see why they are highly rated. It also isn't ANN's fault how these shows get rated.
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
Well they are probably rated so high as average anime watchers like them. So they are good place to start for newcomers to anime. Then when you have watched anime for some time you start to appreciate more the non mainstream material. I must say that MAL has better top list though.
I wouldn't recommend most of that to newcomers.
 
I have to admit that while my personal top ten wouldn't be so egregious as to include dreck like AnoHana, it would still be a disconcertingly mainstream list to most of you.

Please share, surely Blood-C is in there somewhere? (I'm guessing #1)

EDIT: MAL's Top 10 has Gurren Lagann, therefore it's infinitely better.
 

iavi

Member
Perhaps more worryingly there are probably people brand new to the whole 'anime thing' who use lists like this to decide what to watch:

topmen.png


I can only hope they don't start with the first title.

To be fair, jumping into anime with that list wouldn't be the worst thing. There's plenty of good in there. I wouldn't rank them that way, but eh.
 

Jex

Member
I don't know why you guys are so hung up on aspect ratio. I say it's up to the viewer to do whatever it takes to enhance their viewing experience. I prefer Redline like this -

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cajunator

Banned
To be fair, jumping into anime with that list wouldn't be the worst thing. There's plenty of good in there. I wouldn't rank them that way, but eh.

Exactly. For newcomers, that list isnt extreme or scary. Those shows aren't likely to put them off of anime immediately like some of the more eccentric shows we like to champion here. It's a good all around list.

I don't know why you guys are so hung up on aspect ratio. I say it's up to the viewer to do whatever it takes to enhance their viewing experience. I prefer Redline like this -

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Looks good but you still didnt get the black bar out of the side.
 

RurouniZel

Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Everybody could tell that Ichika was going to win this contest from the start so it's not fun rooting for her. Team Lemon is way more fun and Team Kanna is way more HNNNG.

Basically. I don't hate Ichika as much as the others, she's cute too. But I was secretly rooting for Kanna just 'cause she's uber adorable.
 

Makoto

Member
Perhaps more worryingly there are probably people brand new to the whole 'anime thing' who use lists like this to decide what to watch:

topmen.png


I can only hope they don't start with the first title.
I got back into anime thanks to Clannad: After Story (well, actually it followed Azumanga Daioh and Haruhi to name a few, but my "oh shit, perhaps I should take anime up as a hobby" moment was After Story's doing).
 

Jex

Member
I got back into anime thanks to Clannad: After Story (well, actually it followed Azumanga Daioh and Haruhi to name a few, but my "oh shit, perhaps I should take anime up as a hobby" moment was After Story's doing).

And looks where it's lead you. To this thread. Clearly you should be re-considering your life choices.
 

jman2050

Member
I'm used to seeing some pretty terrible top ten anime lists, but I think I'm always most puzzled by the frequent presence of Clannad After Story. Not just because of my anti-KyoAni hipsterism and my distaste for harems, I'm always baffled about why this particular series seems to be considered BEST EVAR by so many anime watchers.

Effective callous tragedy porn is tough to pull off!
 
I'm used to seeing some pretty terrible top ten anime lists, but I think I'm always most puzzled by the frequent presence of Clannad After Story. Not just because of my anti-KyoAni hipsterism and my distaste for harems, I'm always baffled about why this particular series seems to be considered BEST EVAR by so many anime watchers.

It was great until that ending happened.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
Lovely, should save you having to use the Zoom feature too.

Is it available on Betamax or do I have to splurge on the VHS?

Available on Betamax, RCA Selectavision, or your other favorite modern video medium of choice.

I've also put the finishing touches on the ultimate Redline viewing experience:

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Now with bad VHS tracking, static, screen glare, and rainbowing. Because blu-ray and original aspect ratio are for chumps.
 

cajunator

Banned
Available on Betamax, RCA Selectavision, or your other favorite modern video medium of choice.

I've also put the finishing touches on the ultimate Redline viewing experience:

5HOhu.jpg


Now with bad VHS tracking, static, screen glare, and rainbowing. Because blu-ray and original aspect ratio are for chumps.

Stop it, you're making me nostalgic :(
 
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