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Winter Anime 2017 |OT| John Wick cleaning up KyoAni's mess
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SliceSabre
Banned
Demi-Chan 05
This revelation means that ice girl should honestly be ice skating everywhere.
This revelation means that ice girl should honestly be ice skating everywhere.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yeah, I saw, but it really feels like it's sitting comfortably in shoujo trappings. In a reductive sense, it's a lot like Ping Pong in that it uses the narrative ticks of the genre it is referencing in order to convey actual character motivations rather than exposition. I think it works as a co-option of shoujo, but it also feels like something that's probably better to read than it is to watch.This anime has a Seinen tag on MAL, so I assume the manga was published in a Seinen magazine? The way it's narrated seems more like it's Shoujo though, which is kind of a bummer.
You could say one is kind of spoiled by something like Oyasumi Punpun, which sometimes delivers the most complex of emotions with a single picture or close-up, but I'm not going to complain. I'll do that when I finish SW
You know, it reminds me of Fences, where you just get these long Denzel Washington monologues and the camera just moves around because he didn't know what else to do to make a monologue look visually exciting. Except Denzel is an amazing actor, so you can at least feel something when he spends 5 minutes talking about his character's life in depression era America, while in this anime, you're getting voice actor line readings and cartoon faces (or the actress trying her best to put on a stoic face while looking at a point behind the camera in the case of the live action adaptation).
Nanbaka #6
lol now I get the "this is a comedy anime" jokes people were doing.
Where did their nipples go?
lol now I get the "this is a comedy anime" jokes people were doing.
Best yurio
Where did their nipples go?
KiraKira Precure À La Mode 1
Time for these new magic girls to whip up some delicious food in the newest show in the franchise. Op is okay. The Cure designs are going to take time to get used to. They look like they belong in Tokyo Mew Mew. A plucky girl protagonist. Good to see that they're mixing things up. Is magic going to be public this time? It looked like it's going to, but Maho Girls also hinted at it before reversing course. Ichika is okay right now. Not great or bad. Though she got gloomy for a bit, so that's something. Good to see her trying to make that cake even if she sucks at it. The live action part was weird though. Pekorin is okay too. Gummy's normal form looks to be a fairy. No monster of the week yet either. Transformation is okay. But getting magic energy from a cake that Gummy just let her finish was weird. Fight was meh, but I liked the heavy use of non-stock footage magic. Whip has super hearing and moves a bit like a rabbit. I approve of more specialized powers and fighting styles. Catchy Ed. Okay start overall. I'm looking forward to the others for sure.
Time for these new magic girls to whip up some delicious food in the newest show in the franchise. Op is okay. The Cure designs are going to take time to get used to. They look like they belong in Tokyo Mew Mew. A plucky girl protagonist. Good to see that they're mixing things up. Is magic going to be public this time? It looked like it's going to, but Maho Girls also hinted at it before reversing course. Ichika is okay right now. Not great or bad. Though she got gloomy for a bit, so that's something. Good to see her trying to make that cake even if she sucks at it. The live action part was weird though. Pekorin is okay too. Gummy's normal form looks to be a fairy. No monster of the week yet either. Transformation is okay. But getting magic energy from a cake that Gummy just let her finish was weird. Fight was meh, but I liked the heavy use of non-stock footage magic. Whip has super hearing and moves a bit like a rabbit. I approve of more specialized powers and fighting styles. Catchy Ed. Okay start overall. I'm looking forward to the others for sure.
MikeHattsu
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Of course you do
hosannainexcelsis
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I figured you would be all over this show once you discovered it. What makes Scum's Wish work, at least for me, is that it has thoughtful, sensitive, low-key direction that avoids loud melodrama for quiet tension and self-reflection. If it had the grandiose, emotionally extravagant direction of, say, Ano Hana or Sound Euphonium season 2 it would be unbearable. What makes me skeptical about the show is that, unlike Flowers of Evil, I'm not sure Scum's Wish has anything to actually say about the nature of these relationships aside from exploiting their pain for our entertainment. It's always one step away from the Jerry Springer Show, and only the deft hand of the director has been able to hold the show back from that by attempting to ground it with a certain measure of human empathy. We'll see if he can manage to keep that going through to the end.
Hanamonogatari
Kanbaru gets her second arc, and it was all right. Compared to some of the stellar stuff second season offered it fell a little flat. The growth Kanbaru herself went through in this arc paled to say Nadeko in Nadeko Medusa, and the overall theme and tone of despair and perseverance was far less interesting than Tsubasa Tiger. While emotionally it wasn't nearly on the level of Shinobu Time, or as consistently engaging as Hitagi End. On the whole it was nice to have an arc centred on Kanbaru but I'm not sure she's quite as interesting a lead as most of the rest of the main cast.
Finally though I'm through second season after months, mainly due to not really care for the time skip arc. Now I can move onto something else, and it's probably going to be more monogatari.
Kanbaru gets her second arc, and it was all right. Compared to some of the stellar stuff second season offered it fell a little flat. The growth Kanbaru herself went through in this arc paled to say Nadeko in Nadeko Medusa, and the overall theme and tone of despair and perseverance was far less interesting than Tsubasa Tiger. While emotionally it wasn't nearly on the level of Shinobu Time, or as consistently engaging as Hitagi End. On the whole it was nice to have an arc centred on Kanbaru but I'm not sure she's quite as interesting a lead as most of the rest of the main cast.
Finally though I'm through second season after months, mainly due to not really care for the time skip arc. Now I can move onto something else, and it's probably going to be more monogatari.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I agree that there's a general restraint to the direction - you can see it in the sex scenes, which feel pathetic more than erotic. Although the crying can push it over the edge at times, since frustrated, emotionally disappointing sex is yet another one of those tropes you see when you want to portray a dysfunctional relationship.
I'm hoping it builds up to a subversion of a learning moment for the main characters - it would be the only thing that makes the whole exercise worth it to me. I guess implicit to that is that I hope it ends properly, whether the manga is still going or not. (Based on past history, at the very least the Jdrama should definitively end, so there's that I suppose)
hosannainexcelsis
Member
If all this builds up to is a subversion of a learning moment, then it likely will end up a worthless series.
At any rate, the Scum's Wish manga is ending this spring, and Fuji TV announced that both the anime and the live action drama will be adapting the entire manga.
names2hard4you
Member
I'm curious whether the live action drama goes as far as the anime goes in the bedroom scenes. I mean even by Western standards, this sort of stuff would be a little heavy if it were being acted by real people.
Sentai with 40% off on all their sports anime which also includes Sabagebu for some reason, lol
I really wish there was another American football anime. I don't know if anything could top Eyeshield 21, but one day. I highly doubt All-Out would be an appropriate substitute because of different rules though, haha
Hellwarden
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Gundam IBO 42
Guys, Barbatos Lupus Rex is so beefy and huge.
It's great.
It's great guys.
Guys, Barbatos Lupus Rex is so beefy and huge.
It's great.
It's great guys.
Dropped, lol.
Thanks for the warning, DTL.
There were red flags from the beginning.
You should watch All Out anyway.
#BI GAME
Sentai with 40% off on all their sports anime which also includes Sabagebu for some reason, lol
I really wish there was another American football anime. I don't know if anything could top Eyeshield 21, but one day. I highly doubt All-Out would be an appropriate substitute because of different rules though, haha
GoldCrusader
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Don't just look at the negative comments lol, what episode are you on? Like I said in my other comment season 1 is slow, but season 2 is very strong imo. So unless you really dislike it, dropping it because DTL likes it seems silly.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
The thing is that relationship drama is just better handled elsewhere, by virtue of being about adults and not teenagers and people who might as well be teenagers. For me anyway, most of the enjoyment comes from playing with the form rather than the actual content itself.
Like I just watched a show on Netflix about a Black Christian Londoner who is so afraid sex because of her god-fearing mother that she doesn't know how birth control works and refuses to use a tampon. (Incidentally, it also has the self-narration, but done in the now in vogue fourth wall breaking form)
I just don't think Scum's Wish is going to approach that level of damage and introspection, outside of perhaps the teacher.
But at least it's ending, so that's good. I still have no idea why Fuji or whomever would pay to have both a live action and anime airing at the same time though.
I agree. The medium, in this case, is definitely a restriction to the style of narration. They could have changed this aspect or approached in another way, but I don't mind it the way it is right now.
And while we're comparing this to Ping Pong, I really hope this delivers the way Ping Pong did
This is probably going to have some sort of happy ending in order to satisfy the audience as well.
names2hard4you
Member
Zestiria - 17
Ufotable keeps killing it with this show. It's so good.
Ufotable keeps killing it with this show. It's so good.
I assumed simply that there's an audience who won't watch animation. Which is kind of weird given Japan.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Watched Vampire Hunter D. Good shit, but just some funky dialogue and then didn't like the love stuff. Beautiful imagery and great use of music.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Gintama 321
That was a good episode. Is Mutsu a Yato? I think that was a reveal a while ago but I forgot if it actually happened
That was a good episode. Is Mutsu a Yato? I think that was a reveal a while ago but I forgot if it actually happened
Yeah, that was revealed last season.
Dedication Through Light
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Escaflowne Episode 4
Escaflowne is a dragon mecha? Wow how cool is that!
Van needs more action, he always gets good poses and lines but then gets prevented from doing anything.
Escaflowne is a dragon mecha? Wow how cool is that!
Van needs more action, he always gets good poses and lines but then gets prevented from doing anything.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Yamishibai s4 06
Hey more evidence Japanese ghosts are total bullshit that are just dicks for no reason. I'm not even sure what happened here.
There's a girl in a white outfit and long black hair (of course) and she's on the opposite side of the train station and when the train goes by she teleports, and then covers your eyes and asks "Guess who" in the same voice of your senpai but its not your senpai and then you forget who your senpai is and who you are and then you just cover your eyes saying "Who am I" forever? Did I get all that?
Fuck all ghosts.
Hey more evidence Japanese ghosts are total bullshit that are just dicks for no reason. I'm not even sure what happened here.
There's a girl in a white outfit and long black hair (of course) and she's on the opposite side of the train station and when the train goes by she teleports, and then covers your eyes and asks "Guess who" in the same voice of your senpai but its not your senpai and then you forget who your senpai is and who you are and then you just cover your eyes saying "Who am I" forever? Did I get all that?
Fuck all ghosts.
Cornbread78
Member
3-gatsu ep.16
Wait, is Rei enjoying hinself? What is this madness? Hopefully this new Rei continues.
Monster Girls ep.5
Well, snow-chan's social awkwardness is now
What a nice sensei he is to help out all the demi girls.
Wait, is Rei enjoying hinself? What is this madness? Hopefully this new Rei continues.
Monster Girls ep.5
Well, snow-chan's social awkwardness is now
cured by Sensei?
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I guess my question is why this property in particular. Is the manga extreme popular and they want to give it a final push before it disappears from bookshelves? Like even the Arakawa Under the Bridge people waited for the anime to be over before pumping out the live action version. lol
(Then there was the one season where they decided to put a live action Moyashimon in the noitaminA block... because film is technically animation since it's 24 frames per second spliced together, right??)
Based on the numbers, you'd think someone would want to make a live action Bakemonogatari or a live action Your Name first.
Ping Pong proved that you can take the tropes and forms of a genre and use them as tools to create something that goes beyond watching teenagers play a sport, so here's hoping.I agree. The medium, in this case, is definitely a restriction to the style of narration. They could have changed this aspect or approached in another way, but I don't mind it the way it is right now.
And while we're comparing this to Ping Pong, I really hope this delivers the way Ping Pong did
I'm okay with a "happy" ending if doesn't rely on expected pairings. But then again, Japan is fond of high school romances lasting a life time.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
So you're saying that style is better than substance?
Anyway, I don't believe adult-centric narratives are inherently superior to teenager-centric narratives (and obviously you don't either, or you would be watching Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid and Showa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu).
No greater proof that firehawk's love of Kobayashi is fraudulent.
names2hard4you
Member
Gundam IBO - 42
Couldn't help but jump in joy when Mikazuki just absolutely destroyed the opposition when Orga non-challantly just said "crush them" after they begged for their lives like the little snakes they were. They had it coming.
Couldn't help but jump in joy when Mikazuki just absolutely destroyed the opposition when Orga non-challantly just said "crush them" after they begged for their lives like the little snakes they were. They had it coming.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I don't expect substance out of anime anymore, so there's that. *too lazy to look up shrug emoji*
I just don't know if Scum's Wish aims to be anything more than an examination of damaged people trying to manage damaged relationships, and I'm fine if it doesn't try because I don't expect it to.
You know, I'm sure someone has written a story about an Ainu teenager who is struggling with his cultural, racial, and national identity in a homogeneous society that rejects his very existence, so it's not like I think teen stories have to just be your standard high school (melo)drama. I just don't think someone will ever make an anime about that though.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
I think you have a perverted idea of what "substance" is.
AnimeGAF discord is working on legislation to regulate usage of "substance" much like how we plan to restrict the usage of "deconstruction" without a demonstrable background in the works of Jacques Derrida or "feels" without having read W.K. Wimsatt and Monroe Beardsley's essay The Affective Fallacy.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
Sounds good.
Joe Molotov
Member
Despite it's flaws, Vampire Hunter D is still one of my all-time favorites. I just wish Sentai had included the original Streamline dub on the Blu-Ray.
I'm surprised that isn't on there.
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