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Winter of Anime 2013 |OT -6| How much lower can we go?!
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Perhaps not accept but understand. Even then, there is a timeskip of sorts and after years, you're telling me that the two can't see eye-to-eye at all? Again, unless you hate your brother, which I never really got that perspective from the movie, you might not agree with what they're doing but at a certain point you have to let go of it.
They may not be closer but they certainly wouldn't be that detached either.
They may not be closer but they certainly wouldn't be that detached either.
I thought the
fight
Yuki used to be able to beat the crap out of Ame but this time she "lost" because she's effectively lost her wild side. They've both chosen the path they want to go on and that was that. It didn't have to end with both of them embracing each other in tears. I thought there was an understanding built and nothing more really needed to be said.
I get what you're saying about it not being "neat" though. And
it does feel build that they basically ended their relationship at that. But that's life, really.
No, it isn't. Not all family relationships go smoothly.
Wolf Children is about Hana, she is the main character. Hosoda has made this pretty clear from the beginning. Yes, it's a movie about a family, but the only reason for that is because he wanted to tell a story about the struggles and triumphs of a single mother.
I think it's pretty clear that Hana is the narrative arc of the film, and the children are only a large part of the film because they are such an important part of her life. Do not be tricked by the narrator. The narrator is not the main character. The narrator is simply the person who is telling Hana's story, and she happens to also be in the story herself.
The movie starts with the moment she first meets the father of her children because that is the beginning of her journey to becoming a mother. The movie ends with her being content that she has raised the children to a point where they can look after themselves enough to be part of the world they want to be.
Theonik
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A1 production hell. What episode is that from even?
I have a sister, grew up with a cousin who is like a brother, and have seen the interactions with multiple friends. I would definitely say it is.
Unless your brother is a drug addict, is stealing money from the family, or some other extreme circumstance.
Recent magi episode aired yesterday.
We're talking about something being natural, anecdotal experiences are the only thing a person can rely on.
That's essentially what I got from it as well.
I didn't understand
how the end of Yuki's story fit if Hana was supposed to be the main character, because it just seemed so detached from Hana that I couldn't find how to link the two. Looking at it as Hana's growth as a mother and how her children become extensions of her development makes a lot more sense to me.
What I got from that is Yuki ignoring the advice of her mother and telling someone else her secret. She also is diverging from Hana's advice. Both of the children are making decisions for themselves and who they want to be.
Chihayafuru S2 Episode 1
I'm sure I'll regret starting to watch it before it's done, but I couldn't resist anymore.
Great first episode, Kana's scheme to grab the first years was spot on.
The scene where everyone realizes how greedy Chihaya is killed me and also the message exchange with Porky was humourous.
I'm a bit doubtful about what this Sumire girl can bring to the show on the karuta side, but we'll see.
Oh, the show has a great ED and a nice OP.
I'm sure I'll regret starting to watch it before it's done, but I couldn't resist anymore.
Great first episode, Kana's scheme to grab the first years was spot on.
The scene where everyone realizes how greedy Chihaya is killed me and also the message exchange with Porky was humourous.
I'm a bit doubtful about what this Sumire girl can bring to the show on the karuta side, but we'll see.
Oh, the show has a great ED and a nice OP.
Well, you could look at it as
Yuki showing her independence by voluntarily revealing her secret instead of keeping it hidden like her mother wanted.
On a side note, I think it's kind of funny how
big of a deal keeping it a secret is, but both people in the film who find out someone they like is a wolf-person are just like "whatever, I don't even care."
Hmm, I didn't consider that Yuki was
diverging from Hana's advice. I guess her leaving home for middle school is the culmination of her becoming mature enough to decide where she belongs herself.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense and I think that's how we're supposed to look at it. I'm kinda sad I didn't see it at first.
It's a jetpack knee simulator
The rift between them was already there, as both had diametrically opposed viewpoints on how they should live their lives. The fight didn't come from nowhere, and didn't do much but cement that rift as shown in the respective outcomes with Yuki crying in the bathtub while Ame showing a wilder side.
The conflict that needed to be resolved wasn't between the two, though, but of Hana's own acceptance of the divergent paths her children could take.
Bringing this back to the point at hand, rifts do form between family, even if it's just a matter of becoming distant rather than a dramatic break.
The conflict that needed to be resolved wasn't between the two, though, but of Hana's own acceptance of the divergent paths her children could take.
Bringing this back to the point at hand, rifts do form between family, even if it's just a matter of becoming distant rather than a dramatic break.
I agree on the bolded, and that's ultimately why I thought the movie was focused more on Hana rather than the family as a unit. That scene was there to illustrate to Hana about
the different roads her children would take rather than the emotions between Ame and Yuki themselves.
Both threads would just become about Wolf Children since it's the only anime most people want to talk about right now.
There is never any insight into the perspective they have of one another though. I guess that's what I find lacking.
It kinda does feel that way. It's really funny how most of the good offensive gameplay involves basically dash sliding right into enemy fire, and then doing that funny looking bouncing evade move and going slow-mo in mid-air to snipe a few heads, before dash sliding the fuck out of the area, recovering energy, and then repeating the same thing again. Lol.
I've been trying to watch Last Dark for the past couple of hours but for some reason, I don't want to start it.
Siblings often take each other for granted, they don't necessarily think about their family in the detached way that "perspective" implies.
Ultimadrago
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Paging JouleJoule.
I'm so far behind, I only finished the first season.
This really isn't that surprising as the next manga chapter coming out's supposed to be their Graduation.
ZachDeKoromaru
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Well you should watch it, because every other season is greater than the first.
Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu: Finale OVA 4
This family is messed up. All of the effort they put in is ridiculous. I would never thought this show would end up like this.
I have them on DVD just didn't get to them yet.
This family is messed up. All of the effort they put in is ridiculous. I would never thought this show would end up like this.
I have them on DVD just didn't get to them yet.
Ultimadrago
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The Wolf Children: Ame and Yuki
I largely appreciated the visuals in the film. The background art was swell as was the animation. I haven't bothered with The Girl Who Leapt Through Time nor Summer Wars. But I have seen Omatsuri Danshaku to Himitsu no Shima, (a long time ago) so I'm at least a bit familiar with Hosada's character designs. They are created for expressive animation and it shows again in this film, especially in the wolf children. Several cuts in the film, as well, stood out in a positive way (usually scenes involving direct relationships whether between Hana and her mate, the children and Hana, Ami and Yuki, so on).
One of Wolf Children's blaring failings is the narration. It serves minimal purpose whatsoever. I wouldn't even say it gave needed direction to the narrative. Even the moderately light amount it had (in relation to the entire film) was excessive. I see where someone would come from comparing it to Wall-E's opening, but it does not reach that level of credit. The context of each film makes the light/no dialogue work to completely different ends, Pixar's work not having vocal narration of any sort (again, only regarding introduction). The biggest issue is, it wouldn't take extremely complex steps to fix.
Then there's the computer-generated vehicles which are still unsightly while being many in number and the first-person scenes were not welcome. There are thankfully only
of those, though. In contrast, the latter part of the scene where the second one resides,
is one of the better moments in the film. I believe some of the greenery used computer-generated features as well, but these actually worked well. It's unfortunate that the not-so-good stuff popped out.
It wasn't emotionally involving, but some handling of the family themes really hit the right spot. Moments that come to mind are:
This particular line really worked for the sudden escalation of that scene.
Secondly,
Dabbing on the music, it definitely adds to some of the better scenes. (Here's where I bring up the
scene again).
Since I've read multiple Ghibli comparisons, it's worthy to note that this is still better than Ghibli's past five or so odd films. It had a major concept of family and dealt with the intertwining relationships decently.
I largely appreciated the visuals in the film. The background art was swell as was the animation. I haven't bothered with The Girl Who Leapt Through Time nor Summer Wars. But I have seen Omatsuri Danshaku to Himitsu no Shima, (a long time ago) so I'm at least a bit familiar with Hosada's character designs. They are created for expressive animation and it shows again in this film, especially in the wolf children. Several cuts in the film, as well, stood out in a positive way (usually scenes involving direct relationships whether between Hana and her mate, the children and Hana, Ami and Yuki, so on).
One of Wolf Children's blaring failings is the narration. It serves minimal purpose whatsoever. I wouldn't even say it gave needed direction to the narrative. Even the moderately light amount it had (in relation to the entire film) was excessive. I see where someone would come from comparing it to Wall-E's opening, but it does not reach that level of credit. The context of each film makes the light/no dialogue work to completely different ends, Pixar's work not having vocal narration of any sort (again, only regarding introduction). The biggest issue is, it wouldn't take extremely complex steps to fix.
Then there's the computer-generated vehicles which are still unsightly while being many in number and the first-person scenes were not welcome. There are thankfully only
2
riding down the hill
It wasn't emotionally involving, but some handling of the family themes really hit the right spot. Moments that come to mind are:
The fight between Ame and Yuki, it's an escalation that, as a sibling, can attest builds quite naturally. A smaller touch that worked in the scene was Yuki actually asking Ame if he wanted to scrap.
Secondly,
when Ame leaves Hana in the parking lot, the first thing she says is "I haven't done enough yet." Well, it's something along the lines. The selflessness/(selfishness?) of a good mother and the guidelines of "a mother's job never being done" affected Hana's immediate reaction to his leaving. She gets out of it really quickly, which is a slight issue, but the film goes on for long enough without delving into that shift. The point is that despite all that she already did to get good into her children's stomachs and raise them right, she still desired to give more. She knows it can't be that way forever and the audience knows it can't be that way forever. Nonetheless, it's a decent cap near the final minutes that naturally progresses from her struggles ranging throughout the film.
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Since I've read multiple Ghibli comparisons, it's worthy to note that this is still better than Ghibli's past five or so odd films. It had a major concept of family and dealt with the intertwining relationships decently.
ZachDeKoromaru
Banned
Of course you should. It only gets better!
Crash Station
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Staz does look pretty cool. I am excite. Hope it looks good in motion.
Don't worry, nothing school related happens in the series.
This just reminded me there's a copy of it for like twenty five bucks at a local anime store, I think I'm gonna bite next time I start shopping.
Chet Rippo
Member
So she just dresses like a school girl for fun?
Crash Station
Member
No, she is a school girl, but she's (spoilers for what will likely be middle of episode 1)
a dead one trying to get her body back
Bakumatsu Gijinden Roman 08:
Wow, that actually was really good. Hopefully next episode solidifies that this is some kind of turning point.
Red Loincloth Seibei is a true man, and this episode makes it pretty clear that he's putting said loins to, uhh, pretty good use, even if some of those kids are adopted.
Wow, that actually was really good. Hopefully next episode solidifies that this is some kind of turning point.
Red Loincloth Seibei is a true man, and this episode makes it pretty clear that he's putting said loins to, uhh, pretty good use, even if some of those kids are adopted.
dakkumauji
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Ehhhh, Gonzo.
Good to know I'm not the only one following these VITAL FACTS about the INFERNO COP CANON!!!
It's worth it, just keep in mind Season 1's comparatively weak when compared to the other seasons outside of a few eps and the specials.
I knew you'd see the light.
ZachDeKoromaru
Banned
As if I won't watch something with KanaHana AND dragon girls in it.
Gonzo comes back from the dead only to be reduce to this? lol
Last Exile Fam must have really bombed hard.
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