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Winter of Anime 2013 |OT -6| How much lower can we go?!

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Branduil

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Brain Powerd 9

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This show is pretty much Evangelion if it was written by a special needs child. Also, the budget somehow got even worse. So much :wonzo and sliding cels everywhere.

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What the heck.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
At some point it stops being smart and deliberate and becomes cheap and lazy. I'm not saying that's the case with Hidamari but I'm saying that SHAFT doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt with regards to its productions.

Sure, SHAFT is always going to be cheap and lazy because it's their business model. There's no denying that Hidamari Sketch's style serves a financial purpose as much as any artistic purpose, but I'm simply pointing out that it's the only SHAFT show where the art direction is stylistically cohesive and consistently meaningful to the subject matter and so if it's still going to lumped in under the umbrella of "SHAFT style", it at least deserves an asterisk or something.
 
True Tears 5

I really don't like any of the characters in this show besides "Main character sidekick/Sunohara #1246583". It's like everyone else is angry at someone or something all the time for reasons I don't really understand.
 

zeroshiki

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Sure, SHAFT is always going to be cheap and lazy because it's their business model. There's no denying that Hidamari Sketch's style serves a financial purpose as much as any artistic purpose, but I'm simply pointing out that it's the only SHAFT show where the art direction is stylistically cohesive and consistently meaningful to the subject matter and so if it's still going to lumped in under the umbrella of "SHAFT style", it at least deserves an asterisk or something.

That's a weird distinction though since the style of the work itself is determined by SHAFT. I could say that not being able to see any movement or art whatsoever in the Nadeko Snake arc in Bakemono fit the "style" of Bakemono's writing but we all know its because SHAFT were lazy hacks.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Brain Powerd 9


This show is pretty much Evangelion if it was written by a special needs child. Also, the budget somehow got even worse. So much :wonzo and sliding cels everywhere.

http://i.minus.com/im1DXBtG0kGhr.gif

What the heck.
I don't understand...


Happy Birthday, Inochi Kagayaku Toki


Another movie which wonzo had posted about previously which I had been looking to watch was this film here. It's an anime movie that deals with the issue of bullying and the possible side effects such as suicide that may result from it, as well as even somewhat portraying characters who have disabilities and the issues faced with them as well.
Interesting. I don't remember seeing wonzo's post from last year, for whatever reason. Also, that art looks a little bit like that Midori OVA that people keep freaking out about. lol
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
That's a weird distinction though since the style of the work itself is determined by SHAFT. I could say that not being able to see any movement or art whatsoever in the Nadeko Snake arc in Bakemono fit the "style" of Bakemono's writing but we all know its because SHAFT were lazy hacks.

"SHAFT style" usually refers to specific visual and directorial commonalities among their works (and I assume that we all generally agree what this entails so I'll skip listing them all for brevity's sake), so if they produce a work that doesn't exhibit some of these common traits, it's not wrong to say that that work is not fully representative of their "style". So I suppose the debate comes down to whether or not you or anyone else thinks that cohesive art direction/direction that is actively complementary to the subject matter is a large enough departure from their "style" to warrant not being lumped in as Shinboshit.
 

Branduil

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I don't understand...

The thing about Brain Powerd is that you can actually understand it just as well from screencaps as you can from watching it, i.e., not at all.

I didn't even mention the goofy Middle Eastern Oil Baron they introduced in this episode, Mr. Mohammad, who wants to buy NERVNovis Noah with suitcases full of gold bars.

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CorvoSol

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They want to unite the world , not to conquer it.

Imposing your will by force is conquest.

Except that it happens.
Literally nothing happens with Saji Crossroad. Not in 16 episodes anyway.

Well their plans are different.
Durandall plan was the perfect example of gaining something through force , while the celestial being only wish is to keep armed conflict from spreading for a purpose that i won't spoil.

Ezelcant wanted to end war and make people truly human. Durandal is the perfect example of NOT gaining something by force. He wants to end war by assigning roles which circumvent the need to for it. Pretentious Being wants to end war by, uh, by doing what again? I can't remember because they spent too much time on Saji fucking Crossroads.

The entire premise is that somehow a group of people got access to a superior technology that make them way in advance of everything existing.
Besides the point of them being able to change things is the fact that they are overpowered and that they have a plan prepared years ( decades ) before . Otherwise they would be just another faction dealing with war.

This isn't anything like what FMP! Is about. FMP! Is about a boy and a girl falling in love with some giant robots along the way. Mythril doesn't aim to stop war. Oh sure, it's like Celestial Being in that it participates in Armed Interventions, but unlike Pretentious Being, Mythril does things when asked to do so, not whenever it damn well pleases. Oh, and three M9s, or 2 M9s and the ARX7 are not enough to STOP THE COMBINED MILITARY STRENGTH OF THE WORLD.

Mythril doesn't even have some overarching scheme going on. It's "secret purpose" is just
to keep Amalgam in check
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And yes kira freedom wiped the floor of the coordinator fleet by himself once the seed was "on" .. i do remember an overwhelming victory in the destiny end. Kira wiped teh floor of 1 entire fleet and the paint on his gundam was still perfect.

This literally never happens. The Freedom can take down multiple units in one easy go, but he never takes down an entire fleet alone, let alone the combined military might of the entire world.



Except that people do behave according to some patterns.
This is advanced maths and it's used in various places of the world.
Tracking individuals for example..or another application is "game theory" at various levels.

Do you even social science? Game Theory debunks your point. The most you're going to get out of the Prisoner's Dilemma is that they might betray or ally. But you can't accurately predict whether they'll do either of those, which is why it's a dilemma. Complicating this fact is that in real life, betray and ally aren't clear cut options and people can and often do choose a third option.

Which is the whole point of why Ms. Sumiragi's forecasts are ridiculous and her reactions to their increasing innaccuracy is laughable. She's betting on whether or not a coin lands heads or tails and instead it lands purple helix. And if she has some super computer, tell me again why she's been wrong pretty much every damn time?

Gundam 00 does it at another scale ..but the theory behind what's used already exist to this day. By analysing human behavior, scientists already have many simulatiosn for many given cases. This stuff is used when design buildings for example or in sports ( to improve teamwork ) ..gundam 00 just use that stuff and put a future coat of paint on it.

It isn't that easy, and the show itself has already illustrated this point. Sumiragi goes and plans some series of events for the battle, they all get caught by the combined military might of the ENTIRE FUCKING PLANET. So there's one thing for some reason they didn't see. Then they're all further surprised by the arrival of three entirely new Gundams.

Case closed.
 

Dresden

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The thing about Brain Powerd is that you can actually understand it just as well from screencaps as you can from watching it, i.e., not at all.

I didn't even mention the goofy Middle Eastern Oil Baron they introduced in this episode, Mr. Mohammad, who wants to buy NERVNovis Noah with suitcases full of gold bars.

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Duck.
 

CorvoSol

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The thing about Brain Powerd is that you can actually understand it just as well from screencaps as you can from watching it, i.e., not at all.

I didn't even mention the goofy Middle Eastern Oil Baron they introduced in this episode, Mr. Mohammad, who wants to buy NERVNovis Noah with suitcases full of gold bars.

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Super Robot Wars J told me everything I needed to know about this show.
 

wonzo

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Happy Birthday, Inochi Kagayaku Toki

Another movie which wonzo had posted about previously which I had been looking to watch was this film here. It's an anime movie that deals with the issue of bullying and the possible side effects such as suicide that may result from it, as well as even somewhat portraying characters who have disabilities and the issues faced with them as well.

While a couple of scenes may come across as a bit more forced or perhaps somewhat contrived the movie handles the material with a straight face and takes things seriously. It doesn't go so far as to be melodramatic with it's characters emotions either. It really does show the harmful side effects of turning ones back or pushing your problems onto others and the viscous cycle this creates. Watching the film everyone just seems like a grade A jerk but as the film continues it at least explores why they act the way they do always going back to the theme of bullying.

Also perhaps of interest to the staff enthusiasts is that the director of this movie is Satoshi Dezaki, who also directed the anime film adaptation of They were Eleven and is the older brother of Osamu Dezaki.

The art sometimes seemed inconsistent but I thought there were a lot of really nicely detailed background or environmental shots throughout the film, especially in the middle when Asuka is visiting her grandparents for a little while. Other times the art itself isn't bad but the general layout of a shot might just be kind of boring visually. The animation is pretty average to poor but it doesn't really hurt in this case with the story the film is trying to tell. The show certainly likes it's "shocked" type shots with the characters as well where the top and bottom of the screen get darker or a bit shaded while the center is more lit, usually on the characters eye's. Branduil, and likely others, will be happy to know that the movie contains 2D hand drawn vehicles as well! There's all kinds like trucks, buses and even more of a cruise ship I believe it was.

While this might not be the kind of film you would watch over and over a few times I still think it's one people should watch at least once for it's effort in exploring the theme's it does and portraying the characters in the way it does.

For another look at the film which originally got me interested to watch it, and hopefully more do so as well, here's a link to wonzo's comments on the film:http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php...ostcount=14215
I'm glad you checked it out and enjoyed it. I also didn't pick up the Dezaki thing at all so that's actually pretty cool!

Brain Powerd 9


This show is pretty much Evangelion if it was written by a special needs child. Also, the budget somehow got even worse. So much :wonzo and sliding cels everywhere.

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What the heck.
*moves up the list considerably*

lmao
 

CorvoSol

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Now I'm curious. Does the story actually make any sense in that?

How should I know? Brain Powerd always went the Martian Successor Nadesico Route, which I avoided to avoid spoilers and also because MSN never went the FMP/GS route.

Here's what I know about Brain Powerd based on SRWJ.

1. There's a ruin at the bottom of the Ocean and it's called Orphan and when you kill it Cocoon will fall. I mean when it rises to the top of the ocean it'll kill all life on earth.
2.Brains are living machines but never given names of their own. Grand Cher's are dicks.
3.Hime is a girl who finds a brain. Yuu steals one when he defects from the Reformstaurers or something. His parents are members of this. And his sister goes crazy and renames herself Quincy. WHY.
4.Hime joins the White Base with UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon and some lady and those three damn kids. The lady defects because her son is John Quincy Adam's lieutenant.
5.A bunch of stupid other characters exist, like an ace pilot, a woman who demands a Brain for herself, a genius kid, and a romantic false lead to get in the way of Hime x Yuu.
6.Yuu's Brain dies but he takes Nelly's and she dies.
7. Surprise! Orphan doesn't kill anything and flies away into space. IT WAS ALL A HUGE MISUNDERSTANDING.
 

Articalys

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Good news: you can order Inferno Cop t-shirts internationally from Rakuten's store.

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/galaxxxy/item/10001739/
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/galaxxxy/item/10001740/
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/galaxxxy/item/10001741/

Bad news: it'll probably cost you around $70-80 per shirt, with shipping.

Other news: some of the male clothing models on Rakuten's online store are incredibly bishonen. Similarly, some of the girls are really cute.

(initial link via @Opn01)
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
Good news: you can order Inferno Cop t-shirts internationally from Rakuten's store.

Bad news: it'll probably cost you around $70-80 per shirt, with shipping.

Other news: some of the clothing models on Rakuten's online store are incredibly bishonen.

good lord @ the female model in the third link. (and not in a good way)
 

Seraphis Cain

bad gameplay lol
Hidamari Sketch 5

This, uh...this might be my favorite episode of anything ever. I really love surreal dream-y stuff, and this episode was FULL of that. I love the style of this show in general, but this episode was just the best.

Holy shit I love this show.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
Hidamari Sketch 5

This, uh...this might be my favorite episode of anything ever. I really love surreal dream-y stuff, and this episode was FULL of that. I love the style of this show in general, but this episode was just the best.

Holy shit I love this show.

By pure chance I had the flu the first time I watched this episode. It's by far the best episode of the first season, but just imagine watching it when you're not already not totally there mentally :lol
 

Seraphis Cain

bad gameplay lol
By pure chance I had the flu the first time I watched this episode. It's by far the best episode of the first season, but just imagine watching it when you're not already not totally there mentally :lol

I actually do have a cold right now, so that probably helped. :lol

Really, I love anything that's bizarre/surreal/dreamy like this. I think it all started with Magicant in Earthbound. But that's getting off-track. :lol The way this show uses backgrounds/real objects/quick cuts is just wonderful, but this episode is really the best example of it. So good.
 
By pure chance I had the flu the first time I watched this episode. It's by far the best episode of the first season, but just imagine watching it when you're not already not totally there mentally :lol

That sounds like either the most awful or the most wonderful thing ever. And totally agreed, it's definitely the strongest episode in the first season.
 

sleepykyo

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Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo 22

Ok, DRAMA resolved.

I look forward to the next DRAMA for next episode just so it can get a giant resolution in the last episode.

I've really fallen behind on the old shows. Should I just wait for the end and marathon all the episodes at once or just a couple a day?
 

fertygo

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Sakurasou 22

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Mashiro's little piece at the end was the only good thing, she's really the only good character in this crappy 2nd cour but she only get like 2 minute per episode of screentime while all other character goes dumb and emoshit.

Just two more of this crap.
 
The iDOLM@STER 15
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Takane really stole the show this episode.
After a somewhat boring episode last time, this episode made up for it and then some! In a way it was kinda like episode 4, but now that they're more famous, they're running the show rather than being contestants on another show. Probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite episode so far. Perhaps I like these kinds of episodes the most is that they don't seem to be pretty much entirely self contained episodes.
Oh yeah, and tit rockets.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
Futari wa Precure Max Heart 22:

R_Thanatos says it manages to crawl out of the gutter after this episode. Hitokage says it doesn't. ONLY ONE CAN BE RIGHT. REPUTATIONS ARE ON THE LINE. WHO WILL BE VINDICATED, AND WHO WILL BE DISCREDITED FOREVER?!?! (except not really of course)

The surprise bit of continuity from the first season in this episode gives me the tiniest bit of hope.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
"SHAFT style" usually refers to specific visual and directorial commonalities among their works (and I assume that we all generally agree what this entails so I'll skip listing them all for brevity's sake), so if they produce a work that doesn't exhibit some of these common traits, it's not wrong to say that that work is not fully representative of their "style". So I suppose the debate comes down to whether or not you or anyone else thinks that cohesive art direction/direction that is actively complementary to the subject matter is a large enough departure from their "style" to warrant not being lumped in as Shinboshit.
I will say though, for better or for worse, Shaft is the only studio with a cohesive style that can be attributed to the studio itself. The individual directors that actually make the show after Shinbo presumably barfs on a manuscript before fucking off to do "boss-like" things Miyamoto-style do have distinct personalities, it's all under the same type of framework of weird angle shots, discontinuous edits and so forth.

Very few studios try to take advantage of the fact that, while we still view animation like we do with television or film, there isn't a camera to worry about.

I suppose it's just a matter of whether or not that wankery amounts to anything... but I will say, part of the charm of HidaSketch is how weird it can look at times. If it was just another JC Staff show or whatever, it'd probably be as banal as any of the girls being girls shows out there (like say, and I say this as a fan of the show, Joshiraku).

The thing about Brain Powerd is that you can actually understand it just as well from screencaps as you can from watching it, i.e., not at all.

I didn't even mention the goofy Middle Eastern Oil Baron they introduced in this episode, Mr. Mohammad, who wants to buy NERVNovis Noah with suitcases full of gold bars.

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So is this your new Glass Fleet? lol
 
True Tears 7 (END)

Why is almost everyone in this show an awful person or an idiot? Shinichiro can't decide if he wants to fuck his half-sister (which I normally wouldn't mind but in this case she is the worst choice) or to date Noe who is only crazy and not a terrible person with the fear that her brother will kill him and stuff. Aika is a bitch who doesn't know how well she has it and Miyokichi shouldn't have to take her shit but he lets it happen anyway instead of having a manly conflict with Shiafkgbuaieg. I can sort of understand why the mom is angry since her husband fucked someone else and now has to take care of the resulting kid. God I want this to end so badly.
 

Seraphis Cain

bad gameplay lol
Hidamari Sketch 6

Summer episode, and that means fanservice! :D Heh, good episode though. Again though, not much to say about an episode like this in a series like this. Dat tan Miyako, though.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
Futari wa Precure Max Heart 23:

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lol

Man, Max Heart is so cash-strapped that it can't even properly animate its own midseason confrontation. Even when the fight animation was good or had higher-quality keyframes, there's probably not a good cut in the entire episode that lasts more than three seconds. If this fight wasn't DBZ enough with its lightspeed punches and beam spam,
Nagisa and Honoka's new powerup is basically a Genki Dama-charged Marble Screw
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Plot and powerup episodes are almost universally terrible, though, so simply by virtue of that the running vindication total stands as follows:

Max Heart gets better: 0
Max Heart stays shit: 1
 

Milamber

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Westlo

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The thing about Brain Powerd is that you can actually understand it just as well from screencaps as you can from watching it, i.e., not at all.

Not even the people who worked on the show knew what it was about, to paraphrase Miss Kanno, "I have no idea what this show is about so I just made music".
 

Articalys

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Winter 2013 Preliminary First Volume Sales

*7,064 *2 Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru: 2013/02/27 (discounted price)
*2,358 *1 GJ-bu [DVD+BD]: 2013/03/06

Of course, we'll have to see how OreShura fares with the normal, non-event-ticket volumes later to get a feel for its true strength.

Also, I don't know if it's fair to consider it a part of any season, but:

48,534 *1 Nekomonogatari (Kuro) [DVD+BD]: 2013/03/06
 

zeroshiki

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True Tears 7 (END)

Why is almost everyone in this show an awful person or an idiot? Shinichiro can't decide if he wants to fuck his half-sister (which I normally wouldn't mind but in this case she is the worst choice) or to date Noe who is only crazy and not a terrible person with the fear that her brother will kill him and stuff. Aika is a bitch who doesn't know how well she has it and Miyokichi shouldn't have to take her shit but he lets it happen anyway instead of having a manly conflict with Shiafkgbuaieg. I can sort of understand why the mom is angry since her husband fucked someone else and now has to take care of the resulting kid. God I want this to end so badly.

Wait, what?

You really shouldn't be watching the show if you're getting this upset.
 
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