Soultaker0220
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Does anybody know when the review embargo for this game lift?CDPR seems pretty confident in the game
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That previous map comparison was way off. This one is more accurate in my opinion. But based on my own estimations it's still off somewhat. TW3 map is shrunken down too much for the scale to be equal.
I'd say RDR is maybe around 65% landmass of GTA V. Just a guess though.
I heard the review embargo lifts something like a week or 5 days before the release. That does indicate some confidence on the part of the developer.
May 12th, week before release.
Uh, it's the same map in both comparisons. Latter is just rotated to a different position.*rolleyes*
Darkstorne
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That's my concern too :/
I get that it's awesome they've added wind effects to trees, but they haven't added it to anything else. Grass is calm. Geralt's hair is calm. Skirts/dresses on NPCs are calm. It's really disjointing. Would be a much more impressive effect if there were calm days too, and it was at 50% of the strength shown on the windy days. As it stands, it's like they cranked the effect to 11 to say "look guys! Our trees sway! Are you seeing this!?"
Still getting this day one! Just might be relying on modders to sort this one out
I don't know about others, but Geralt's hair are definitely not calm.
ScepticMatt
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shouldn't GTA V be "smaller" then, because a car or helicoper is much faster than a horse?
Not that I'm saying that a smaller world means that the game is objectively worse.
The 49 square mile figure is including water, I believe ("world size")
No, you misunderstood. I'm talking about the relative size of the maps for both games, which is the whole basis of what we're talking about. The previous comparison (done by somebody else) had a tiny GTA5 map against a giant Witcher 3 map. Yours, on the other hand, has a moderately smaller Witcher 3 map against a larger GTA5 map (size relative to each other). I do think your comparison is much more accurate than the previous one, but I also think you're underestimating the size of the Witcher 3 map(s) somewhat.
Wouldn't CD Projekt Red be getting their size estimates from their creation tools? I don't think they'd be working it out be footsteps?
macfoshizzle
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The main map that you posted is just the northern part. The "tutorial" part Of the map isn't a tutorial but where you actually start the game. There is a prologue of the game but that map and the prologue is way down south which you don't show. I'm not sure how big gta's map is or not saying your compare size is wrong. I'm just saying your not showing the entire witcher 3 map which I've seen and played.
Nor is the grass. It moves a lot in the wind too. I didn't see many skirts or didn't notice how they moved in the wind.
I have seen some fairly calm areas too. I'm willing to wait and get a better sense of how it is in the full game, but so far I am all in favor of them dialing it down a bit in general.
Not long now.
Amen.
Darkstorne
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I mean it's not affected by the wind. Only by his own movements. The trees sway like they're in tropical storms, and everything else (grass, hair, clothing) is acting like it's a gentle breeze.
I don't see that. His hair moves quit a lot in the wind. I think they should tone down the wind a bit in general, but I think some of you are exaggerating it. Maybe some of you don't live in very windy places, but where I live wind like that is quite common, especially in the spring and fall, and it moves the trees to a very similar degree. I just hope they have a good variety of different wind speeds, from calm all the way to stormy.
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Yes, as mentioned above, it really doesn't matter if its bigger or smaller. We know it is definitely quite big, and as long as it is scaled well to the player and means of travel, it is nothing to worry about or compete with other games on. It seems vastness is a clear target of the world in W3.
Smaller in the sense that you cover it faster if you use faster travel. So in a game that's primarily vehicle based, it's very possible that GTA V can feel smaller to some because of how fast you can cover it by normal means. That doesn't literally tell you all of the elements of building and geographical scale though.
Their map has a proprietary scale like any game. Technically, it has what they've built to be an estimated mile, but games generally don't ever use exact scales. It would be a disgustingly boring game if you had to ride dozens of miles in real time on real scale. It's adjusted in some ways and no, they wouldn't use footsteps to count, that was just an example for how you can better grasp the true scale of how the world is actually scaled for the player to experience.
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So who's waiting for his CE ?
My wife´s gonna kill me......
No. My map is composed of the full Skellige islands area, full Novigrad/no mans land area + White Orchard area. Those are the open world areas of the game. Places that are not included in my map are Kaer Morhen area (not sure if open world), Visima Palace (not open world) and probably other story related linear smaller areas.
So who's waiting for his CE ?
*raises hand* Meeeeeeeeee!!!
with just two weeks from launch, I'm surprised I haven't seen more pics of them being in the wild yet.
Ah, sorry. Yeah, the first map comparison... I don't think the guy who made that had any scale calculations done when doing that and just put his wet fan boyish dream in that pic.
On the other hand, I'm sure my comparison is at least relatively close to the truth, as I really tried to get the sense of scale by comparing building sizes and distances from several gameplay videos and screenshots. but we'll see when the game is done.
For better or worse, I'm sure we'll all enjoy the game and the world is large enough.
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Denton
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*raises hand*So who's waiting for his CE ?
Reminds me that I gotta get some money from atm to actually be able to pay for it.
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*raises hand* Meeeeeeeeee!!!
with just two weeks from launch, I'm surprised I haven't seen more pics of them being in the wild yet.
Where do people even put these without ruining the style of their home?
I do think yours is probably fairly close. Definitely way closer than that previous one.Ah, sorry. Yeah, the first map comparison... I don't think the guy who made that had any scale calculations done when doing that and just put his wet fan boyish dream in that pic.
On the other hand, I'm sure my comparison is at least relatively close to the truth, as I really tried to get the sense of scale by comparing building sizes and distances from several gameplay videos and screenshots. but we'll see when the game is done.
For better or worse, I'm sure we'll all enjoy the game and the world is large enough.
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The game code grants you access to a digital backup copy of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt on GOG.com. You will also receive full software support, i.e. future updates, as well as all the additional content like the 16 Free DLCs, the FLAC & MP3 soundtrack, comics, wallpapers, art book, all voice over packs and more.
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Q: Will I be able to install updates and the free DLCs without using the GOG.com game code?
We decided to offer software support, DLCs, and extra goodies only to gamers who confirm their purchase with the provided game code on GOG.com. This is the only way for us to differentiate between you, honest gamers who bought our game, and pirates who snatched it from the Internet.
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Where do people even put these without ruining the style of their home?
on a display case in their room.....that I haven't bought yet.....is that Katy Perry?
I just sold my home to afford this collection, so joke's on you!
Yeah, Google says the source of gif is the video for Roar.
Not long now.
Funny enough Yennifer basically got Triss to scram for hanging around Geralt due to this very situation.
So who's waiting for his CE ?
Dear god are they that big?! Or is that just a blown up version of it.
Mine is coming from the US to Canada.
So who's waiting for his CE ?
Thank god i didn't buy one like i wanted to. My Girlfriend would have killed me.
can we stop posting bullshit scale maps? FOV, camera angle, mode of transportation, run speed, verticality...ALL of these effect scale. you can't just plug in some metrics handed down by the dev and trust them, and you definitely can't just eyeball it from having seen some pre-release footage.
No clue how it will or will not run but usually takes a few patches to really fix some issues that are bound to pop up.
Which is rather typical with PC games and.....pretty much most games nowadays it seems.
CDPR kind of has a habit of fixing and improving the game over time ie: See Witcher 1 and 2.
It's not that typical anymore unless it's a broken and unfinished game like Unity
Day one patches are hardly rare sadly enough. And even the Witcher games has needed to have some patches to improve performance and ease other issues. The original for example use to have a loading issue that could be bad for some. That was eventually done away with a patch.
My comparison map is not bullshit. It doesn't rely on reported km² but precisely the sense of perceived scale (FOV, movement speed etc.) I've noted when comparing gameplay videos. It might not be perfect, but it surely gives you the ballpark of the size of the game world.
But why? Why u need to compare/measure it? What's the point?
I really can't understand this.
aka doesn't rely on objective data but instead on intuition and eyeballed observation. No thanks. I know GTAV quite well and it's clear to me that the mainland is quite a bit larger than the picture depicts.
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n second thought Dragon s Dogma felt quite large even though im sure it's but a fraction of GTAV. So I reign in my above statement a little. Then again Dragon Age felt small, but it's map was huge.To know if it's big enough to have a good sense of travelling to different regions of a country.
That's my impression as well but we won't know for sure until we roam the entirety of W3's map.
So who's waiting for his CE ?
Well that is lovely small box :b
aka doesn't rely on objective data but instead on intuition and eyeballed observation. No thanks. I know GTAV quite well and it's clear to me that the mainland is quite a bit larger than the picture depicts.
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Yeah, your edited text is the thing: It's all about the perceived, objective size, as all game worlds are about the illusion of the space and it's a complicated mix of things like FOV, movement speed and the scale of trees and buildings. It's not just about the numbers. But anyways, if you have a map ~equal to GTA V and no means to travel it but by walking or on horseback, it will feel HUGE.
That's true still I have walked around in GTAV for the
epsilon quest, which made no sense in terms of it's scale. if you walk 5 miles in 25 minutes then you are walking at ~11/12 miles an hour, however clearly the pc does not. It's own scale is not 1:1 to reality either, making it harder still to compare
Still I'm personally hesitant about the map, but now remain more open to it's possible veracity.
Turin Turambar
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That's the typical "advertising box" to make piles in retail stores, as ads. Not the real CE, I suppose.
