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Witcher 3 PC Performance Thread
- Thread starter batman2million
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Not that I know of. I like AMD's ethics, I just wish their products were really competitive. Nvidia has me by the balls and I hate it.
The 970/980 reduce the boost clockspeed when they reach 80C, so I guess everything below that is fine.
I tried the ini file edit but the movies still stutter like mad. The opening movie sits at 60fps and is a lot smoother but the in-game movies are stuttery and stuck at 28fps.
It is this sort of *@#! that bothers me about any generation of card I buy into. How long before the 900 series is 'abandoned'?
As always I found shadows to have a pretty big impact (5fps) from high to ultra so that has been cut down to high in my settings.
I am running with a GTX 970 @1516MHz / I5-3570k @4.3GHz / 8GB RAM / MX100 SSD / 1080p/60fps with the following:
Motion Blur = Off
Blur = On
Antialiasing = Off
Bloom = On
Sharpening = On
Ambient Occlusion = HBAO+
Chromatic Aberration = Off
Depth of Field = On
Vignetting = On
Light Shafts = On
Vsync = Off
Maximum Frames = Unlimited
Resolution = 1920x1080
Display mode = Fullscreen
Hairworks = Off
Background Characters = Ultra
Shadows = High
Terrain Quality = Ultra
Water = Ultra
Grass Density = High
Texture Quality = Ultra
Foliage Visibility = Ultra
Detail Level = Ultra
I have set a Witcher 3-specific profile in nVidia control panel with the following pertinent settings:
Anisotropic filtering = 16x
Antialiasing - FXAA = On
Antialiasing - Transparency = Off (I have a feeling it was causing some odd meshing issues on certain objects)
Maximum Pre-rendered frames = 1
Power Management = Prefer maximum performance
Texture Filtering - Negative LOD bias = Allow
Vertical Sync = Adaptive
nVidia Inspector
Texture Filtering - LOD Bias (DX) = -0.5000
I am not using any framerate capping software in conjunction with this game.
I've had a good old wander around White Orchard and my framerate is staying at 60fps with only occasional drops; no stutters or hitches. I anticipate some issues to arise as I progress (if areas are more detailed and demanding) but it is a good base to work from if this happens.
I am having constant 60fps on my gtx 970 and 4770k. Foliage is set on high and hairworks off. Everything else is maxed out.
Would you please make a thread so we can get attention drawn to it?
mdsfx
Member
G1 GTX 970 @ +100/150
i5 3570k @ 4.4
16GB ram
Turned on power settings to Max performance
Full screen
Everything ultra, but foliage distance on high
Hair settings off
Was running great at 55-60 FPS for over an hour then 2 crashes randomly. GPU never got above 62 degrees. Wtf
Edit: this game is still totally worth the occasional crashes. So fucking good I can't stand it.
i5 3570k @ 4.4
16GB ram
Turned on power settings to Max performance
Full screen
Everything ultra, but foliage distance on high
Hair settings off
Was running great at 55-60 FPS for over an hour then 2 crashes randomly. GPU never got above 62 degrees. Wtf
Edit: this game is still totally worth the occasional crashes. So fucking good I can't stand it.
lordfuzzybutt
Member
G1 GTX 970 @ +100/150
i5 3570k @ 4.4
16GB ram
Turned on power settings to Max performance
Full screen
Everything ultra, but foliage distance on high
Hair settings off
Was running great at 55-60 FPS for over an hour then 2 crashes randomly. GPU never got above 62 degrees. Wtf
Remove OC is the first thing to do when crashes happen.
CyanideFuse
Member
This is really rather worrying. I am not someone that jumps onto a new card every generation; I felt I moved too quickly from my 670 to 970 but a good price deal was on offer plus a Ubisoft game code I was able to sale onto a Gaf member. I am okay to knock settings down but I am not happy if I am turning them down because of some artificial shenanigans.
After the 970 3.5GB VRAM debacle and the lack of empathy/sympathy/contrition from nVidia it does make me wonder if 'older' cards would be *ahem*
'sabotaged'
mdsfx
Member
GPU, CPU, or both?
I have the exact same problem. But i did not do it on the main menu. I was ingame already.
And it seems Witcher 3 can overheat my system and i DON'T KNOW WHY!
My rig: all hardware just 5 weeks old.
- Intel i7 4790k (4Ghz) + Scythe Mugen 4 Cooler
- Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 3 (BIOS up to date)
- Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming (BIOS up to date)
- 16 GB RAM
- Corsair Graphite 600T (2x 200m cooler + 1x 120mm cooler) Airflow should be fine(!)
Witcher 3 settings:
- 1080p fullscreen, Ultra preset
- Frame limiter to 60
- Hairworks OFF
- All postprocessing effects OFF, except Light shafts
--> Result: 55-60 fps <- i was happy with that!
But...
TEMPERATURE (taken by hwmonitor):
CPU: Idle ~24° C -> Max. 72° C
GPU: Idle ~27° C -> Max. 78° C
Both CPU and GPU are way too high imho.
I can also confirm a 99% GPU load while i was alt+tab'd.
I even got 2 BSOD (!) while i was alt+tab'd on the desktop and the game still running in the background. I did not analyze the crashdump files yet, so i cannot tell if its related to overheat. But so far i never had any bluescreens in other games yet.
Still don't know what the problem is... 60 fps, no stuttering, no frame drops, rare crashes-to-desktop... but i can't find a solution for the high temperature (which is way higher than its supposed to be)
GTA 5 @ Ultra settings (no MSAA) is running perfectly fine and the system does not seem to generate any noticeable heat. Its cool.
Would be grateful for any suggestions how to approach this problem.
Start with GPU. this particular game is really demanding on your video card.
mdsfx
Member
Thank you!
CambriaRising
Member
I don't believe for one second this has anything to do with it. I've had crashes with and without the overclocks and even had a consistent 3 hour session with an overclock. I don't think anyone is going to find the magic bullet when it comes to preventing them, but I will say that the inventory menu seems to cause it more often.
5-10fps reportedly.
How much of a boost?
mdsfx
Member
I stopped the streaming service. Not sure that I could notice a difference. Was using fraps.
So guys what do you think about this ?
https://www.reddit.com/r/witcher/comments/36jpe9/how_to_run_hairworks_on_amd_cards_without/
Apparently someone figuered out how to run Hairworks on and AMD card, without too much of a performance hit.
Even more I read a lot of people get straight 60fps at Ultra/High even with this Hairworks option on , while I get only 40-55 on Ultra ?
https://www.reddit.com/r/witcher/comments/36jpe9/how_to_run_hairworks_on_amd_cards_without/
Apparently someone figuered out how to run Hairworks on and AMD card, without too much of a performance hit.
Even more I read a lot of people get straight 60fps at Ultra/High even with this Hairworks option on , while I get only 40-55 on Ultra ?
Alekde on gry-online.pl has created SweefFX config and modified user.settings file to get this
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Performance? Around 40-50FPS on dual Titan X.
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Performance? Around 40-50FPS on dual Titan X.
franbatista123
Member
Fucking great, my gtx 970 has just died...getting crazy coloured blocks and missing textures all over the screen before it freezes....
I'm pretty sure The Witcher 3 almost destroyed my 970 as well, getting my PC to crash many times and my computer stopped turning on after about 4 crashes. I was able to turn it on again after a while, and the first thing i did in the game was to disable Hairworks, activate the accelaration thing in Graphics, set everything to high and disabled many of the post processing effects. Also removed the frame cap (to unlimited). Runs 60 without any issues now.
I don't know who fucked up, CD Project or Nvidia, but one (or both) did a very bad job.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
The only issue I've had is with grass and foliage occasionally popping in and out. And not the entire scene but nearby rendered foliage. I've maxed the game out and pushed the INI settings up so maybe lowering something might stop that. Otherwise running locked 30 with well beyond maxed out settings at 1440p.
CybernatonEvolution
Member
Nvidia will probably ditch the 9xx series once they start releasing their "DX12 cards".
Has anyone tried using the 347 drivers?
Has anyone tried using the 347 drivers?
It could be just how Witcher 3 is using the GPU. Look at this. Triangle Rate is good for Maxwell, Hawaii and Tonga. Not so good for the rest, including Kepler.
Holy shit. almost a different game :-O
adampa1006
Banned
Damn. No problems here, not a single crash with 290x.
Time to end the myth that Nvidia is problem free gaming and drivers, and AMD is trash?
The funny this is that this is an "Nvidia" sponsored game (read- purposely reduce kepler performance, they perform fine in GTAV)
never crashed on my 290 either
Well, I assume it doesn't work for everyone, but it's quite a difference if it does. Worth a shot.
Same, no crashes here on my 780s.
It needs to be done. Gaf has the power to at least get an official response to this. Its an absolute disgrace that nvidia can see fit to completely ignore a previous line of gpus.
I can leave hairworks on and keep 60 fps on my 970 thanks to that MSAA tweak. I turned it down to 2x. It doesn't look as nice, but it's worth it. Roach gets to keep his flowing mane, I get to play with a smooth framerate. All is well.
Deciding to go with 60 fps means I'm no longer playing at 1620p, so I'll have to turn on some AA through NCP. In-game settings just aren't enough.
Deciding to go with 60 fps means I'm no longer playing at 1620p, so I'll have to turn on some AA through NCP. In-game settings just aren't enough.
Lockjaw333
Member
I've crashed about 6 or 7 times in 4 hours of play. It's annoying for sure but not killing my enjoyment (yet).
I have a gtx 970 ssc from Evga, decent factory OC. Could be what's causing it but I really don't want to have to mess with putting it back to stock clocks. Ugh.
I also have a small OC on my 2500k of 4.0ghz, really doubt that's the issue.
My Gpu does reach high 70s in temp and the fans go nuts. It's probably the gpu OC...
I have a gtx 970 ssc from Evga, decent factory OC. Could be what's causing it but I really don't want to have to mess with putting it back to stock clocks. Ugh.
I also have a small OC on my 2500k of 4.0ghz, really doubt that's the issue.
My Gpu does reach high 70s in temp and the fans go nuts. It's probably the gpu OC...
Agreed.
What purpose does a forum this size serve if not to be heard by as many as possible.
Where is Derp.
If you want to PM me an OP to post I'll do it. I don't know the details about this, but I'm all for shitting on Nvidia's horrible business ethics
Some people have gotten the attention of the mods over on the geforce forums. I'm going to wait a couple of days and see what transpires there.
I guess we play the waiting game.
As a Kepler user myself (670) I have a vested interest in what transpires.
iNvid02
Member
thanks for that, this will save me a lot of time over the course of the game
lordfuzzybutt
Member
Your system will be the most stable when running at stock. But remove one by one and check if it gets better.
I am not saying the game crashes solely because of the OC. But that is one of the main reasons for ANY game to crash if the system is not fully stable and surely it has something to do with it.
For this game specifically, seems like a lot of crashes are because of bugs. Removing OC will not eliminate them but will alleviate the situation when related.
The REDengine version of TW2 is famous for testing system stability. I bet this is no different.
MrRoflWaffles
Member
What's the fps cost when you do the tweaked hairworks rather than the standard in-game menus one?
I have a 970 too and currently have my config set up to play at 55-60 with no hairworks so I'm wondering how much stuff I'm going to need to cut to fit it in.
Don't assume necessarily that it's the clock causing the crashes by any means - a plethora of people have had issues, and plenty with high clocks have had no issues (such as myself).
If your clock is stable literally everywhere else (and especially as it's factory OC), it's pretty unlikely that you're going to need to underclock to improve stability.
What settings are you running? I can't maintain 60 with hairworks on even at 2x tweak. It sits at 50-55, reaches 60 sometimes but not consistently.
Gumbie
Member
There's a post over at /r/pcgaming about it if you're interested
http://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/36hf2b/has_nvidia_officially_stopped_supporting_kepler/
Grechy34
Member
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7 4790K
Graphics: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Superclocked 4GB
Memory: Kingston Hyper X Fury 16GB (2x8GB)
I could turn everything to Ultra and run above 60 frames consistently. Turning hairworks on throws everything off though. Was getting dips into the low 40's with it on so I've decided to turn it off. I'm hoping they release a patch which will optimise the performance of hairworks as it's the only feature right now that is killing performance mostly. Otherwise game runs excellent. I don't mind playing games at lower frame rates but dips from 50 to 40 suddenly threw me off.
I will post my experience on the Alienware Alpha i7 over the weekend once I install it on that machine.
Graphics: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Superclocked 4GB
Memory: Kingston Hyper X Fury 16GB (2x8GB)
I could turn everything to Ultra and run above 60 frames consistently. Turning hairworks on throws everything off though. Was getting dips into the low 40's with it on so I've decided to turn it off. I'm hoping they release a patch which will optimise the performance of hairworks as it's the only feature right now that is killing performance mostly. Otherwise game runs excellent. I don't mind playing games at lower frame rates but dips from 50 to 40 suddenly threw me off.
I will post my experience on the Alienware Alpha i7 over the weekend once I install it on that machine.
CybernatonEvolution
Member
There is an antialiasing option for hairworks in the ini files; check that out if it affects performance. There is another performance-saving option but it is for AMD users (decreasing tessellation).
If you want 30fps then just crank it all the way up. I've only played for about 40 minutes but I can manage a constant 30fps with almost everything Ultra (only foliage distance turned down to High and HairWorks OFF). Was getting 65-85% GPU usage, so even my ageing GTX680 has some headroom at these high settings.
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
Ok a couple of notes, I have an Nvidia SLI set up and all settings are maxed out:
- water effects are missing from the beginning scene, on console when Geralt moves his leg and takes out the animal out of the tub, there are water splashes that are completely absent from the PC version.
- the tweaks in the Nvidia guide with the two commands for shadow distance actually seem to lower the shadow quality overall, I tested this thoroughly yesterday and confirmed it with screenshots. I'll show the screenshots later today when I'm done with work.
- water effects are missing from the beginning scene, on console when Geralt moves his leg and takes out the animal out of the tub, there are water splashes that are completely absent from the PC version.
- the tweaks in the Nvidia guide with the two commands for shadow distance actually seem to lower the shadow quality overall, I tested this thoroughly yesterday and confirmed it with screenshots. I'll show the screenshots later today when I'm done with work.
I don't know, man, as a 680 user, I'm quite happy with the performance. Following SalsaShark's recommendation, I've also bumped terrain and detail to Ultra.
Now I have Terrain, Textures and Detail on Ultra, Shadows on medium, everything else on High and HBAO+, so far at a solid 30fps, with the possibility of having some framerate to spare ending that stream thing, so that more demanding scenes don't make me downgrade it even more (no idea of how it's running unlocked, if I already have some room or if it's too close to 30).
It's definitely better than I expected. A bit of a bummer that I can't get solid 60 even on Low, but mostly High/Ultra settings at 30 is really really good.
Are older games performing worse now? If they're not, the worst case scenario would be Nvidia focusing on Maxwell and not optimizing Kepler anymore, but that's hardly a conspiracy. It's not like the performance is worse than it would be on older drivers, is it?
Now I have Terrain, Textures and Detail on Ultra, Shadows on medium, everything else on High and HBAO+, so far at a solid 30fps, with the possibility of having some framerate to spare ending that stream thing, so that more demanding scenes don't make me downgrade it even more (no idea of how it's running unlocked, if I already have some room or if it's too close to 30).
It's definitely better than I expected. A bit of a bummer that I can't get solid 60 even on Low, but mostly High/Ultra settings at 30 is really really good.
Are older games performing worse now? If they're not, the worst case scenario would be Nvidia focusing on Maxwell and not optimizing Kepler anymore, but that's hardly a conspiracy. It's not like the performance is worse than it would be on older drivers, is it?