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Witcher 4 will feature "super compelling and very meaningful" romance; sidequests to be further pushed, and interconnected with main missions

LectureMaster

LectureMaster

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Apparently CDPR are doing a lot of interviews with press, here is another one that confirms in-game romance for Ciri. I am hyped about them further pushing sidequest quality.

www.gamespot.com

The Witcher 4 Director On Ciri, Gwent, And In-Game Romance

The Witcher 4 aims to continue CD Projekt Red's tradition of dark, mature RPGs with difficult decisions and complex side quests.
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When it comes to romance, what can fans expect? Will there be any in The Witcher IV?

SK: Absolutely. It's a part of the way we make games. It is a part of human nature. It's a very normal thing. Without that I think we wouldn't be able to tell the very full story.

MM: It's an important part of life.

SK: But as always, we want to pay a lot of attention to it and make it super compelling and very meaningful. So it's not just to make a romance for the sake of making a romance. That's not the CDPR way.

CD Projekt Red is known for their side quests. Have you guys thought about how you plan to push side quests even further?

MM: Yeah. We are always pushing further with each and every game. We will learn from the previous games and also look at what's happening in the market. You can expect us to. With our ambition, it will be nothing less. But yeah, we are looking forward [to exploring choices and consequences further]. To surprise the player, and to show them you don't really have control of [everything]. You think you're doing something and then it's the other way around. We also want to push how the side content and main content [are connected]. And also with Ciri herself [and how her growth is affected], right? For sure, we will look there to push the boundaries further.

SK: Yeah, exactly. We want to make them meaningful, and we want to make sure that the consequences are visible. So you [feel as though] you had an impact either on an NPC or world in general. [These complex decisions are] why our games have long tails, right? Because of these choices and consequences [add a lot of] re-playability. You can experience the game a little bit differently here and there.

 
Zuzu

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One thing that they may want to improve is the way they structure failed side quests. In Witcher 3 you can fail side quests if you progress past particular parts of the main quest. This was annoying because it would slow my momentum and desire to progress through the main quest when I had to stop the main quest and reload a save to complete a side quest (or quests) so I didn’t fail them.

Perhaps they should either remove the possibility of failing side quests (probably impossible if they continue to link some side quests to the main quest as they did in the Witcher 3) or inform the player that a side quest can be failed in the description of the side quest. This does have the negative downside that it would spoil the surprise that a side quest has repercussions on the main quest but it already gets spoiled if you get told that you failed the side quests when you progress far enough through the story.
 
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Mayar

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super compelling and very meaningful romance - I don't quite understand how this will work in the context of Ciri. If I remember correctly, she herself said - she doesn't have any real love interests. And all her relationships that were not very good, to put it mildly. Although perhaps experts in lore will correct me. The more they talk about the game, the more questions I have...
 
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PectacularOz

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Just wait until people find out she's 100% bisexual. (CDPR has been off/on about the books, but I imagine they'll keep this one)

Sapowski never had to give a clear answer - she's very open about being attracted to another female (Rats) member. Sapowski may have intended it as a teenage rebelious phase, but it's there.
 
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Mayar

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Bojji said:
She was assumed to be bi by fans. Sapkowski never gave clear answer?

But how she was in the books is irrelevant for CDPR apparently, they changed a lot of stuff.
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It is almost certain that she is BI. But this is not the biggest problem. As I understand it, they decided to completely convert her into a Witcher with subsequent mutation and all the pros and cons. And if this is so, then she is effectively sterile and can no longer produce offspring in principle, plus she now has an increased lifespan, which practically guarantees that she will outlive any person she meets. What kind of super compelling and very meaningful relationships can there be in such conditions, I do not fully understand. If she hasn't gone through a full transformation, then yes, maybe something will work out. But honestly, this game is sending some very contradictory signals, I'm confused...
 
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timothet

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Zuzu said:
One thing that they may want to improve is the way they structure failed side quests. In Witcher 3 you can fail side quests if you progress past particular parts of the main quest. This was annoying because it would slow my momentum and desire to progress through the main quest when I had to stop the main quest and reload a save to complete a side quest (or quests) so I didn’t fail them.

Perhaps they should either remove the possibility of failing side quests (probably impossible if they continue to link some side quests to the main quest as they did in the Witcher 3) or inform the player that a side quest can be failed in the description of the side quest. This does have the negative downside that it would spoil the surprise that a side quest has repercussions on the main quest but it already gets spoiled if you get told that you failed the side quests when you progress far enough through the story.
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My ideal way of handling these types of quests would be to evolve them, not fail them outright. For example, if the person needed to complete the quest dies in the main story, fine— now find a way to complete it without them.
But it's obviously a more complicated and resource-consuming way of designing quests, so I’m not that mad. Either way, it adds to replayability.
 
Astray

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Mayar said:
It is almost certain that she is BI. But this is not the biggest problem. As I understand it, they decided to completely convert her into a Witcher with subsequent mutation and all the pros and cons. And if this is so, then she is effectively sterile and can no longer produce offspring in principle, plus she now has an increased lifespan, which practically guarantees that she will outlive any person she meets. What kind of super compelling and very meaningful relationships can there be in such conditions, I do not fully understand. If she hasn't gone through a full transformation, then yes, maybe something will work out. But honestly, this game is sending some very contradictory signals, I'm confused...
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Would that concern not be there if it was Geralt? Genuine q.

(I'm not super familiar with the lore.. Still to play Witcher 3, my wife did and loved it though).
 
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Mayar

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Astray said:
Would that concern not be there if it was Geralt? Genuine q.

(I'm not super familiar with the lore.. Still to play Witcher 3, my wife did and loved it though).
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No, he has long since come to terms with the fact that he cannot have normal relationships in principle. And it seems to me that this is one of the reasons why he actually did not want such a life for Ciri. Although these are purely my impressions.
 
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timothet

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Mayar said:
It is almost certain that she is BI. But this is not the biggest problem. As I understand it, they decided to completely convert her into a Witcher with subsequent mutation and all the pros and cons. And if this is so, then she is effectively sterile and can no longer produce offspring in principle, plus she now has an increased lifespan, which practically guarantees that she will outlive any person she meets. What kind of super compelling and very meaningful relationships can there be in such conditions, I do not fully understand. If she hasn't gone through a full transformation, then yes, maybe something will work out. But honestly, this game is sending some very contradictory signals, I'm confused...
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There are plenty of sorceresses and wizards around to choose from if you're a Witcher looking for a relationship. Yennefer and Geralt are an example of such a relationship. Yennefer is about 300 years old, and Geralt is around 100.

As for Ciri becoming a full-fledged Witcher, there are multiple factors that may have convinced her to risk it and undergo the Trial of the Grasses. Not wanting to ever have any children may actually be one of them. Due to her Elder Blood, her father wanted Ciri to bear his child. The same applies to the Wild Hunt and Eredin.
 
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Mayar

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timothet said:
There are plenty of sorceresses and wizards around to choose from if you're a Witcher looking for a relationship. Yennefer and Geralt are an example of such a relationship. Yennefer is about 300 years old, and Geralt is around 100.

As for Ciri becoming a full-fledged Witcher, there are multiple factors that may have convinced her to risk it and undergo the Trial of the Grasses. Not wanting to ever have any children may actually be one of them. Due to her Elder Blood, her father wanted Ciri to bear his child. The same applies to the Wild Hunt and Eredin.
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Relationship between Yennefer and Geralt, well, they are far from ideal, to put it mildly, just being a Witcher, building relationships is probably the last thing you'll think about. I don't want to look for excuses for their decisions for them, I want to see how they themselves get out of this situation. The fact that they decided to make Сiri a full-fledged Witcher already raises questions.
 
Shubh_C63

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Ciri is no man. They probably can't portray her like Geralt who sleeps around a lot but still settles with his main squeeze.
it pretty much has to be meaningful making the opposite character semi-canon.
 
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Mayar said:
Relationship between Yennefer and Geralt, well, they are far from ideal, to put it mildly, just being a Witcher, building relationships is probably the last thing you'll think about. I don't want to look for excuses for their decisions for them, I want to see how they themselves get out of this situation. The fact that they decided to make Сiri a full-fledged Witcher already raises questions.
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I would argue that being chased through various dimensions isn't exactly conducive to a stable relationship either. For now, the Wild Hunt is gone, but who knows what else is out there, just waiting for Ciri to make a mistake? Ciri is around 21 years old in The Witcher 3, yet, as far as we know, she hasn't had any meaningful romantic relationships because of that constant threat.
 
Jinzo Prime

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Shubh_C63 said:
Ciri is no man. They probably can't portray her like Geralt who sleeps around a lot but still settles with his main squeeze.
it pretty much has to be meaningful making the opposite character semi-canon.
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Or they can try to write her like a womanizing dude and it'll be a funny disaster, let's see what they choose!
 
POKEYCLYDE

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If Ciri is straight, most dudes aren't going to even touch the romance aspect. And what kind of beta cuck romance options are going to be available? I doubt your romantic interest would be more badass than Ciri... can't have a man be cooler/more masculine than the heroine.

I don't see an outcome where everyone is happy with what it ends up being. Just like the lackluster choices in Cyberpunk 2077.
 
Rush2112

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Do people remember all the hype about the ‘amazing’ cyberpunk quests before it came out? It was a straight forward story with very little deviation from the plot. The side quests were generic.
 
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Hookshot

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I hope we can make casts of the cocks she takes along the way as collectables. Like the cards from before.
 
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Mayar

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Oberstein said:
She's bisexual in the books.


An honest video about Ciri becoming a Witcher

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Good video, I agree with many things, but as he himself said, this is again his opinion based on his knowledge. But there are several points that I do not agree with, as he correctly noted, the events unfold long after the events of Part 3, and already at the time of Part 3, the "production" of Witchers actually ceased, simply because there were practically no living creatures left for which they were needed. Even Gerald already had problems finding a job, so turning her into a Witcher did not make much sense. Becoming a Witcher in a world where there is practically no work left for you? Why and for what purpose? Are all the disadvantages worth the advantages received? They actually missed the opportunity to show that, let's say, with intensive training, studying magic, and given her abilities and her uniqueness in genetics, she could fight monsters without having to become a Witcher, and I think that would have shown her as a much stronger and more interesting character. And that makes much more sense in my opinion, in a world where there are practically no monsters left. They chose the easiest way - she will fight monsters, so she will be a Witcher (not in terms of the ritual, which is extremely difficult to survive). Let's see what happens in the end, they had the opportunity to make a unique, interesting and unusual character, they chose to make just another Witcher.

P.S - Well, as was said, they have a license, in principle they can do whatever they want and however they want, they don’t have a clause in their contract - “You must adhere to the books and lore.”
 
killatopak

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Mayar said:
P.S - Well, as was said, they have a license, in principle they can do whatever they want and however they want, they don’t have a clause in their contract - “You must adhere to the books and lore.”
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So many other people tried that and they all failed spectacularly. RoP, Star Wars, Witcher Netflix.

There's a fine line where throwing shit and hoping it sticks just doesn't work anymore.

It's not an excuse to do whatever the fuck you want.
 
MrKainobi

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Gonzito said:
Maybe they should shut up and work on the game. I dont trust their marketing tactics after Cyberpunk
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This. If there are two things CDPR should’ve learned from Cyberpunk, is to not promise a shit ton of things that won’t make it into the game and to be realistic of what they can achieve as to not release a broken mess.
 
Fbh

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Gonzito said:
Maybe they should shut up and work on the game. I dont trust their marketing tactics after Cyberpunk
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A good base rule for every game is to never trust what devs SAY about their game, only trust what they show...and even that should be taken with a grain of salt, specially with devs that have a history of downgrades like CDPR
 
lh032

lh032

I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
would be funny if the game allows ciri to sleep with different men.
I wonder how the woke group thinks about it
 
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