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Wkd BO 0428-3017 - F8 crosses 1B WW, Baahubali 2 & Latin Lover teach noobs how to

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Slayven

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"We got Hermoine and Tom Hanks!"

Cyber thrillers were played out back when they were new. I have no idea why anyone thought it was a good idea to bring it back in 2017.

The Circle looks like this generation's version of The Net with Sandra Bullock. Remember 20 years ago we didn't know what the internet was so it made sense that the internet was after us.

A lot of reviews touch on it, but don't go in depth. But the film would have been groundbreaking 15-20 years ago. For a thriller that is suppose to be sometime next week, the ideas are dated as hell.
 

kswiston

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Baahubali 2: The Conclusion is also shattering Indian box office records. It looks like it made more in its first day there than any film has made in its entire opening weekend.

That 101M$ WW OW makes it very unlikely that GOTG2 reaches 1B$, no?

Correct. You should probably expect a final gross between $850-950M depending on the Domestic take, and China to a lesser extent.
 
Good for Baahubali 2... I'd never heard of that film before this thread, but it's always cool to see international movies do very well in the US. Hopefully if they make a third one they'll increase the theater count somewhat, even.

Not surprised to see The Circle do so poorly. Everything I heard about it made it sound like trash. "The internet uses your information for illicit gains!" No shit.
 

Corpsepyre

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Maybe the box office pundits here can educate me on this. Fast didn't really earn much in the States (for now), and most of its earning come from WW box office. Given that it's budget is $250 million, will WW BO help it make back its money, or does the domestic BO need to be much higher?
 
Maybe the box office pundits here can educate me on this. Fast didn't really earn much in the States (for now), and most of its earning come from WW box office. Given that it's budget is $250 million, will WW BO help it make back its money, or does the domestic BO need to be much higher?

lol they don't fucking care
 

Ridley327

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A lot of reviews touch on it, but don't go in depth. But the film would have been groundbreaking 15-20 years ago. For a thriller that is suppose to be sometime next week, the ideas are dated as hell.

Isn't the premise along the lines of "what if a tech company was secretly recording your every move?" I just can't imagine that being remotely interesting when we've already got real world examples of that being the case on an almost daily basis. Like, OK, welcome to 5 years ago, movie.
 

womfalcs3

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Isn't the premise along the lines of "what if a tech company was secretly recording your every move?" I just can't imagine that being remotely interesting when we've already got real world examples of that being the case on an almost daily basis. Like, OK, welcome to 5 years ago, movie.

It has Tom Hanks.... will watch.
 

kswiston

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Maybe the box office pundits here can educate me on this. Fast didn't really earn much in the States (for now), and most of its earning come from WW box office. Given that it's budget is $250 million, will WW BO help it make back its money, or does the domestic BO need to be much higher?

Assuming $230M domestic, $360M China (without service fees), and about $625M elsewhere, Universal is roughly looking at the following box office share:

DOM: $125M
OS: $250M
CHINA: $90M

TOTAL: $465M

That doesn't factor in other expenses (marketing, gross participation, etc), but Civil War had about the same box office cut on the same production budget. Deadline guestimated about $200M in net profit for Civil War looking at total expenses (and excluding factors like product placement, merchandising, and subsidized advertising, which would make their estimate an underestimate)
 

JohnDrake

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Maybe the box office pundits here can educate me on this. Fast didn't really earn much in the States (for now), and most of its earning come from WW box office. Given that it's budget is $250 million, will WW BO help it make back its money, or does the domestic BO need to be much higher?

It is already turning into profit and Universal is probably discussing ideas with Vin on how to make 10 more of these movies. It is a giant hit.
 

kswiston

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It is already turning into profit and Universal is probably discussing ideas with Vin on how to make 10 more of these movies. It is a giant hit.

They should probably consider the budgets if they end up going beyond Fast 10. The franchise won't sustain these crazy budgets if it eventually slides back into Fast 6 WW gross territory.
 
They should probably consider the budgets if they end up going beyond Fast 10. The franchise won't sustain these crazy budgets if it eventually slides back into Fast 6 WW gross territory.

Ya they need to drop it down

Fast 9 can chill with the crazy setpieces if they bring Han back anyways, THE DARK MIDDLE CHAPTER

You know MovieGaf knows shit about cinema when they're calling Baahubali a "Bollywood" movie.

I know everything, I demand an apology
 
Isn't the premise along the lines of "what if a tech company was secretly recording your every move?" I just can't imagine that being remotely interesting when we've already got real world examples of that being the case on an almost daily basis. Like, OK, welcome to 5 years ago, movie.

yes, and somehow in that world, it has the nicest comments sections you've ever seen.
So it has a premise that it doesn't want to pay off on, which is always a great sign of not following up on your own premise. Surely that makes for great stories, rite.

For reference, it was the movie that Brad (Cinema Snob) saw directly after that King Arthur thing and it was apparently equally bad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SILU1SUJZQ0

Sometimes I wonder why he tortures himself like that, but then I know that's his job now and all. I don't really watch his stuff all that much btw, just here and there.

edit: watched a bit of their screening of Lost City of Z, he describes it as "an old school epic" (like 70's and 80s), so that now has my interest.
 

Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
I must be out of touch, because I haven't even heard of 3 of those movies in the top 5.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
They should probably consider the budgets if they end up going beyond Fast 10. The franchise won't sustain these crazy budgets if it eventually slides back into Fast 6 WW gross territory.

I'm going to assume them adding in all the big names is bloating the budget in a place it doesn't need to be in. I really don't think Russell or Theron are adding to the draw. But they'll definitely take a few million dollar cut
 

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MeisaMcCaffrey
You know MovieGaf knows shit about cinema when they're calling Baahubali a "Bollywood" movie.
Yeah, most Bollywood movies appeal only to certain parts of India - mostly Hindi speaking areas. This film has been accepted all over India hence the crazy collections.
 
Assuming $230M domestic, $360M China (without service fees), and about $625M elsewhere, Universal is roughly looking at the following box office share:

DOM: $125M
OS: $250M
CHINA: $90M

TOTAL: $465M

That doesn't factor in other expenses (marketing, gross participation, etc), but Civil War had about the same box office cut on the same production budget. Deadline guestimated about $200M in net profit for Civil War looking at total expenses (and excluding factors like product placement, merchandising, and subsidized advertising, which would make their estimate an underestimate)

China takes such a deep cut? God damn.
 

kswiston

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You know MovieGaf knows shit about cinema when they're calling Baahubali a "Bollywood" movie.

Well, this is an English site, and the audience for Indian movies in the west is nearly non-existent outside of Indian (and neighboring country) expats and their children.
 

Slayven

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Isn't the premise along the lines of "what if a tech company was secretly recording your every move?" I just can't imagine that being remotely interesting when we've already got real world examples of that being the case on an almost daily basis. Like, OK, welcome to 5 years ago, movie.
It's not a secret they straight up tell people they going to do it and hand out cameras.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
I was assuming How to Be a Latin Lover was a Mexican film using some Hollywood stars for crossover appeal, but it's directed by Ken Marino? So bizarre.
 
http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Forushande-(Iran)#tab=more

The domestic total should be as current as is available. I don't know how complete the overseas total is. Overseas tracking outside of Hollywood is not super transparent. You would probably have to follow the local box office reports of every territory for smaller films.
Thanks. We're showing it and it has been a hit here in Sweden alongside Citizen Schein and La La Land(the seniors really like it).
 

Ridley327

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The Circle looks bad...really bad, and it seems like it.

I expected better from Tom Hanks.

He's been kinda slumming it between prestige projects these days. I'm sure he loves working, but it's surprised me how many mediocre productions he's signed on for in recent years.
 

Kart94

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He's been kinda slumming it between prestige projects these days. I'm sure he loves working, but it's surprised me how many mediocre productions he's signed on for in recent years.

Well hopefully he doesn't end up like Nicolas Cage, who now only appears in shitty random Direct to Video movies and other movies that no one watches.
 

Ridley327

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Well hopefully he doesn't end up like Nicolas Cage, who now only appears in shitty random Direct to Video movies.

Cage's problem was the prestige roles dried up when his tax problems started and he literally couldn't say no. I can't imagine that Hanks has anything resembling financial problems, so this is more a case of him trying to diversify beyond the prestige films he's been known for in the past 15 or so years and not having much luck with it. He's still a big name, but it's not like he would have been able to do much for something like A Hologram for the King simply because he was present. Honestly, I'm making it sound a lot worse than it actually is, but that's because he's one of my favorite actors on the planet and I'd rather see him working on good projects.
 
Based on the Australia and UK numbers, I'm not seeing a $150M+ OW for Guardians 2 next week.

In that vein, I was thinking of trying to type up my thoughts on the major openers this summer prior to each weekend, basically like the box office sites do but only predicting the openers versus the entire top 10. Would there be any interest in me sharing those here?
 

kswiston

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Based on the Australia and UK numbers, I'm not seeing a $150M+ OW for Guardians 2 next week.

In that vein, I was thinking of trying to type up my thoughts on the major openers this summer prior to each weekend, basically like the box office sites do but only predicting the openers versus the entire top 10. Would there be any interest in me sharing those here?

Sure. Platforms for discussion in these threads are always good.

As for Guardians, comic films do skew a bit higher domestic than typical for comparisons between the English territories. I'm not expecting any higher than $150M though.
 

nOoblet16

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Colour me surprised at Bahubali 2. First things first, this isn't a "Bollywood movie" (explaining it later in my reply to the quote below). But I hope this is a massive wake up call for Bollywood that's been shitting on every other Indian film industry and not experimenting all the while making only making two kinds of movies:

1) The big budget crap that's poorly shot and has no creativity where most of the budget goes to the actors.

2) The good movies that barely have any budget and because of that...they look low budget and are shot rather poorly as well.

When was the last time a Bollywood movie made the top 5?
The funny thing is, even after this the answer to your question would be....never. Because it's not a Bollywood movie !

Bollywood = North Indian Hindi industry that's based in Mumbai (or Bombay, hence the Bolly). This movie is actually from one of the South Indian film industries (there are 2 of them there that are big enough to make something like this)

Historically, Bollywood movies are only popular among north Indians, the middle East, and other neighbouring countries while South Indian movies are only popular in South India. This movie on the other hand is an anomaly as it has been accepted pretty much everywhere...so they must have done something right.
 

Y-Z

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I wonder if the Smurfs is actually going to make Sony some money. Made $155 million on a $60 million budget.
 
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