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Wkd BO 07•24-26•15 - The fault in Sandler's movie career... Lil ant-man that could

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TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Shame about Pixels. It's an original idea (not a sequel//reboot) and it looks pretty fun going by the trailers.

Not hard to see why people are avoiding it though: Sandler is "box-office poison" in a fashion now after... how many subpar films?
 

Circinus

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Not hard to see why people are avoiding it though: Sandler is "box-office poison" in a fashion now after... how many subpar films?

Personally, I had never heard of Adam Sandler until recently.

Maybe Pixels will do well here (Europe) and other territories because I don't think he's a well-known actor/producer here so I don't think he'll be much of a 'repellent' [assuming Sandler really is "box-office poison"] here if people don't know him anyway.

I thought it was based on a short film

Original idea? Not really.

Yeah, it's based on a short film, but I mean as a feature film it is a new original film and not a sequel or reboot.

But you're right, not exactly correct to call the idea 'original'. My bad. :)

Watch Trainwreck/ Inside Out.

Trainwreck, no thanks, not my genre at all.

Inside Out looks great. Thanks for the recommendation I guess. :)
 

ugoo18

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Saw Antman yesterday and the most unexpected part (Great movie by the way) was when the Force Awakens trailer played before it and the theater started clapping through out it....... Star Wars sure is something else
 

Meier

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Shocked that Pixels production budget was that low.

I wouldn't say full out bomb, but it sure was on a lot of screens. I'm surprised Southpaw beat it pretty handily.

Definitely a bomb.. industry expectations where in the 25-30m range.
 

Syntsui

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Pixels will do fine overseas. There are ads everywhere in Brazil and Chile, so I guess there are even more in countries with bigger audiences.
 

guek

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Saw Antman yesterday and the most unexpected part (Great movie by the way) was when the Force Awakens trailer player before it and the theater started clapping through out it....... Star Wars sure is something else
People want to believe so badly that it'll be good.
 
I knew Paper Towns didn't have the same "punch" as TFioS but it's way less than expected.

Hope it doesn't interefere with Looking for Alaska. It's still a relatively cheap movie to make.
 

Drayco21

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Ant-Man just keeps truckin. Hopefully it keeps this going and the markets it hasn't opened in yet are receptive to it; I really want to see more of Team Ant in the MCU.
 

Escape Goat

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Feel bad for Pixels, it's actually a good movie.

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Saw Antman yesterday and the most unexpected part (Great movie by the way) was when the Force Awakens trailer played before it and the theater started clapping through out it....... Star Wars sure is something else

I didn't get the clapping, but my theater had a similar sense of reverence. Most of the trailers were like "yeah whatever" feel from the audience, some people looking at their phones, rustling snack wrappers...then Star Wars came on and it had everybody rapt attention.
 
The crowd that I seen Ant Man with cheered when Han Said Chewy were home line.

This movie will be something else. I dont think Jurassic World opening record will stand for very much longer.
 

wachie

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The crowd that I seen Ant Man with cheered when Han Said Chewy were home line.

This movie will be something else. I dont think Jurassic World opening record will stand for very much longer.
A december opening of 210M would be a greater feat than 761M lifetime gross, chances of that are very very low.
 
The crowd that I seen Ant Man with cheered when Han Said Chewy were home line.

This movie will be something else. I dont think Jurassic World opening record will stand for very much longer.

The odds of Star Wars breaking Jurassic World's record (or topping it domestically) aren't great, and it has nothing to do with the potential quality of the film.

Not saying it couldn't happen, because it could. But it's nowhere near a guarantee. We just did about 20-25 minutes in tomorrow's episode of Full of Sith on how Star Wars fans are setting the movie up for a cant-miss media narrative about how disappointing the film's box-office is come December.
 

kswiston

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The odds of Star Wars breaking Jurassic World's record (or topping it domestically) aren't great, and it has nothing to do with the potential quality of the film.

Not saying it couldn't happen, because it could. But it's nowhere near a guarantee. We just did about 20-25 minutes in tomorrow's episode of Full of Sith on how Star Wars fans are setting the movie up for a cant-miss media narrative about how disappointing the film's box-office is come December.

Yep. Ignoring the opening record, $650m is a lot of money for a film to earn domestically. Star Wars has a better shot than most, but we are past the point where first place for the year is guaranteed.
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
2015 is going to be the first year where domestically, The Hunger Games series is not placed first in the yearly box-office sum.

Jurassic World will most likely end-up being the winner for this year.
 

Son Of D

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The crowd that I seen Ant Man with cheered when Han Said Chewy were home line.

This movie will be something else. I dont think Jurassic World opening record will stand for very much longer.

Being a December film it won't be as front loaded as people expect. It'll probably still take the record for highest OW for a December film but the gross will come from the legs.
 
Saw Antman yesterday and the most unexpected part (Great movie by the way) was when the Force Awakens trailer played before it and the theater started clapping through out it....... Star Wars sure is something else

I've seen the trailer twice in theaters - before AoU and Ant-Man. Both times the Lucasfilm logo got a big gasp and some excited chatter, the showing after Avengers got some applause. There's palpable excitement for this movie, which is very cool.

Not saying it couldn't happen, because it could. But it's nowhere near a guarantee. We just did about 20-25 minutes in tomorrow's episode of Full of Sith on how Star Wars fans are setting the movie up for a cant-miss media narrative about how disappointing the film's box-office is come December.

So, essentially we might see something akin to the reactions to AoU's run.
 

kswiston

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2015 is going to be the first year where domestically, The Hunger Games series is not placed first in the yearly box-office sum.

At first, I didn't know what you were talking about, since the first film was third for the year.

This year will be the first year where a Hunger Games film doesn't finish in the top 3. It could conceivably fail to finish in the top 5 if it doesn't increase over the last film.
 

Matt_

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2015 is going to be the first year where domestically, The Hunger Games series is not placed first in the yearly box-office sum.

Jurassic World will most likely end-up being the winner for this year.

huh?
the only time hungers games came top is with catching fire
Sniper beat mocking jay part 1 and the dark knight rises and avengers beat the first film
 

kswiston

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huh?
the only time hungers games came top is with catching fire
Sniper beat mocking jay part 1 and the dark knight rises and avengers beat the first film

He meant that it was #1 for the year at some point in its run. Sort of a meaningless distinction though.
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
At first, I didn't know what you were talking about, since the first film was third for the year.

This year will be the first year where a Hunger Games film doesn't finish in the top 3. It could conceivably fail to finish in the top 5 if it doesn't increase over the last film.

huh?
the only time hungers games came top is with catching fire
Sniper beat mocking jay part 1 and the dark knight rises and avengers beat the first film

I had a brain fart. Please disregard lol

He meant that it was #1 for the year at some point in its run. Sort of a meaningless distinction though.

Yes, it was, I forgot that American Sniper released in 2014 as well ;.;
 

NR1

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What do you think was the most important factor in Pixels' disappointing box office performance? Sandler? Negative reviews? Tough competition?

I know the early line from Sony was that this was positioned to become a 21st century Ghostbuster-like comedy with franchise potential. Do you thing this is an early sign of what to expect from Paul Feig's Ghostbusters performance in 2016?

I would say Sandler was the biggest problem with Pixels. As others have said, I think the demo that dislikes him and his stick is also the demo that this film was aimed at. I also believe the Sony Pictures has a major quality problem, or at least they did. Hopefully things have changed up there since the email hacks and the studio's output in the next 2 or 3 years reflects this change. I would expect Ghostbusters to be the point where things could go either way since it was in development pre-hack, but it appears efforts were made to make it a quality product post-hack.
 
So, essentially we might see something akin to the reactions to AoU's run.

That was exactly the example I used on the show.

I know the early line from Sony was that this was positioned to become a 21st century Ghostbuster-like comedy with franchise potential. Do you thing this is an early sign of what to expect from Paul Feig's Ghostbusters performance in 2016?

The one has nothing to do with the other. We won't know what to expect from Ghostbusters' box-office until we see Ghostbusters' marketing.
 
Starting to feel that i may need to buy tickets early rather than just walking in to see it, especially if i want to see it on opening night in good seats.
... you thought you were going to be able to see the new Star Wars opening night without buying tickets before hand? In good seats?
 

Violet_0

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Where is the Time to Eat Crow thread? That goes both ways right?

for the last 11 months I have closely monitored every Pixel-related thread and meticulously collected a vast number of posts for the epic Pixel crow eating OT. I'll show everyone who is the real fool now!

I guess Minions is going to end up making more money than Inside Out, hm
 

Jigorath

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Earlier this year I thought there was no way Star Wars was going to beat Age of Ultron. But after seeing what nostalgia did for Jurassic World I have little doubt Star Wars is going to be number one this year. 2 billion here we come.
 

Neoxon

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So once again, Hank & Scott take the top spot. Good on them. Not surprised Pixels bombed given the bad reviews, but I'm kind surprised that Paper Towns didn't do better since pretty much every girl that I know was buzzing about it (even if the reviews weren't doing the same).

As for F4, how well it does solely depends on how it's reviewed. If the critics like it, then it could have a pretty good opening. If they hate it.....yeah. Though if nothing else, it'll probably take the top spot unless critics outright despise the movie.
 
So China allows 34 imported movies a year, yes? Is it the Chinese government doing the choosing, are their bids being made, how does that process work? Could they get filled up and say, "eh, Star Wars, lets not do that it'll take away from our domestic products"
 
So China allows 34 imported movies a year, yes? Is it the Chinese government doing the choosing, are their bids being made, how does that process work? Could they get filled up and say, "eh, Star Wars, lets not do that it'll take away from our domestic products"

Probably money.
 

Joni

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So China allows 34 imported movies a year, yes? Is it the Chinese government doing the choosing, are their bids being made, how does that process work? Could they get filled up and say, "eh, Star Wars, lets not do that it'll take away from our domestic products"
It makes more sense to try and co-produce, which means you get counted outside of the 34 and you get a higher cut. You can get stuff like Iron Man 3 and Furious 7.
 

3N16MA

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The main reason why AoU is seen as disappointing by some is that it has a previous film to be measured against. AoU failed to match or exceed the first film in pretty much every BO category and also critically. Does Episode VII get measured against the other entries in the franchise or do fans think it must be measured against the likes of JW, Titanic, and Avatar?
 

wachie

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The main reason why AoU is seen as disappointing by some is that it has a previous film to be measured against. AoU failed to match or exceed the first film in pretty much every BO category and also critically. Does Episode VII get measured against the other entries in the franchise or do fans think it must be measured against the likes of JW, Titanic, and Avatar?
JW, Furious 7 and AoU are all apt comparisons for lifetime gross, the Cameron movies not so much.
 
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