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Now I hope you are joking! LOL!
The difference is both Titanic and Avatar were over budget, over schedule and everyone in Hollywood was ready to throw Cameron under the bus.People doubted TFA would get the domestic record. Hmm.
Meh. That's not really that logical. Two big surprises doesn't inherently prove a third one is on the way. I'd be willing to avatar bet, tag bet or whatever but it feels premature for now. I'm sticking to my guns to where Avatar 2 will be successful, but not anywhere near Avatar or Titanic for that matter.
ratcliffja
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TFA also went over schedule, although only by a few months. I also thought it would be garbage, but I'm glad I was wrong. Sadly I wasn't wrong about the Cameron movies.
And they doubted him on T2. At the time it was the first movie to cross 100M budget and everyone thought he was insane to spend that much for a sequel to a low budget movie.
BronsonLee
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With Avatar, after that opening weekend he was literally in the middle of the highway already
And then the second weekend grew, so all the cars stopped
Massive production disaster=/=Harrison Ford getting rekt
The media wasn't against TFA before it came out.
Avatar 2 won't make more than $1.5 billion, and I'd even be shocked if it made over $1 billion at this point.
Cameron's next new IP, though? That shit could top Avatar, or at least come close. I'd never doubt Cameron in that case.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
At this point, Star Trek: Beyond may outgross Star Wars in China come it's release.
Bobby Roberts
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I think it's mostly a knee-jerk reaction to statements such as these. Super-confident claims of total infallibility are going to bring out the contrarian in anybody, much less anybody who is even somewhat involved in the varying aspects of fandom beyond simply saying "I like thing."
That's basically all it is. Cameron is a great filmmaker when he's on, and a merely good one when he's off. He's never made a bad movie, and his tastes tend to the populist in a way that maybe only Spielberg's ever touched as consistently.
But even with that being more or less general knowledge, that sort of factoid is going to be brushed off or handwaved away when rooting interests come into play, and especially in the face of people who might be holding opposing rooting interests (silly as the entire concept may be) who say things like that with conviction approaching religious fervor. Maybe they don't actually get to that level of zealotry, but even hearing the ring of it echoing off the statement is enough to make otherwise common-sensical people go contrarian.
darkinstinct
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People said the same thing about Avatar. Then it made 2.8 billion.
ratcliffja
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I heard nothing but hype for Avatar for years. The only negativity I heard was that it was really expensive to make.
Gonna save this one.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Wut?
I'd dig that. Let the space franchise I prefer have ONE territorial victory, lol.
BronsonLee
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Bobby Roberts
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This kinda shit should absolutely replace avatar bets.
Avatar 2 will make a billion dollars overseas without batting an eyelash.
MDSLKTR
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Classic, may this be print screened many many times
RastaMentality
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Avatar 2 will probably take the highest grossing title in China.
You got it.
CassidyIzABeast
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Don't do this to yourself.
ViewtifulJC
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ratcliffja
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All I heard was that the director known more for his action movies was finally returning to form after sweeping the world with his unorthodox Titanic AND it was going to be the best realized world in film AND it was going to be this 3D masterpiece. I heard a lot of skepticism about this on forums, but there was also a ton of hype for it considering his previous track record. I don't think many people expected it to also be a return to form of 90s Native American pseudo-reverence/shallow environmentalism.
BronsonLee
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So much talk about ass in this thread now
When life gives you booty
Make BOOTY-ADE
When life gives you booty
Make BOOTY-ADE
ratcliffja
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Wouldn't that imply that booty is bad?
What? That's hardly what happened.
BronsonLee
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Booty is a double edged sword
I remember the backlash on the first trailer. People didn't know what to make of it.
I'm quoting this for posterity.
Same here.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
The proof is in the pudding: FOX released Alvin in the same time period just in case Avatar faltered.
Affeinvasion
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They mishandled the merchandise so badly for Avatar that I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't do super well. Even though I didn't like the first film (didn't hate it), I felt like it was a complete movie. It seems like an odd choice for a sequel given that the story is finished and the mindshare for avatar seems really, really low. Maybe enough time has passed that people will forget that once they got past the hype of 3D! that they didn't really like it that much.
Yes, but 3D was new back then and now they are tired of it
Let's be real: Avatar is getting delayed again. And with writers responsible for Armageddon, War of the Worlds, and Jurassic World it'll be interesting to see how that franchise responds to earlier/ongoing criticism about its story.
Presold though, wonder if Cameron can make people embrace HFR unlike Jackson and the Hobbit
Presold though, wonder if Cameron can make people embrace HFR unlike Jackson and the Hobbit
Yeah I'm really curious about this and I wonder if he's going 48fps or 60fps.
and the writers were also on Rise and Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and Sarah Connors chronicles.
vinnygambini
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Because most films don't take advantage of the 3D capabilities and end up being more expensive with little to show for; Life of Pie and Avatar are the only films that enhanced the viewing experience in 3D.
Excited to see how Cameron fares with T2 3D conversion.
3D had been around for 2-3 years. It wasn't new. People just didn't give a shit. Until Avatar made them give a shit.
But it's true that people generally don't give much of a fuck nowadays, again. Who's to say that Avatar 2 might make them care about 3D again (and HFR). Actually, people do care a when a movie is sold as a proper 3D experience, such was the case of Life of Pi and Gravity (Gravity had over 80% in 3D admissions). Really, who knows.
And don't forget Gravity which did very well.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Forgot about Gravity thanks, really enjoyed that one in 3D.
ashecitism
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Oh right, true. Forgot about this.
BronsonLee
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Ang Lee is fucking insane though
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
It has Garret Hedlund and Kristen Stewart starring... bomba in the making?
That's right! I had forgot about this and it's in post now. I wonder if Cameron jumps up to 120 FPS.
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