Support NeoGAF

[Angelus Errare]

Good to see Lucy do well; I got rather tired of the "female lead action movies don't do well because it's female lead" BS excuse.

 

[chronos86]

No it didn't, it made $359 million WW. You guys have no idea what a bomb is.

Don't tell some posters that, they think everything is a "Bomba".

So many people on this board are obsessed with that "Bomba" word , they call every movie that hasn't opened at 100 mil a "Bomba".

 

[Escape Goat]

She shot him in the leg. You hear him say "oh, my leg" or something like that when they pull out.

I think they just watched the trailer.

 

[Kusagari]

Wonder if DC is having second thoughts about Rocky staring in a superhero film for them.

Let's be real.

The Rock is probably the only reason Herc is going to just disappoint instead of being an outright bomb.

 

[anaron]

I think they just watched the trailer.

of course they did, how else could they be armchair angry

 

[zero_suit]

Haha, Lucy is already in the black.

 

[jmdajr]

Glad Rock had the highest grossing Hercules movie this year!

 

[BronsonLee]

Glad Rock had the highest grossing Hercules movie this year!

Goddamnit jmad

 

[DarkFlow]

Tom Cruise, is that you?

Hail Xenu!

 

[vatstep]

I saw a matinee showing of Apes yesterday. The theatre was pretty full, and people actually clapped at the end (which is rare outside of first night/weekend crowds). Awesome flick.

 

[jmdajr]

Haha, Lucy is already in the black.

No. Movies need to make back at least double.
It will though.

 

[G-Fex]

Wonder if DC is having second thoughts about Rocky staring in a superhero film for them.

I sure as fuck hope so

 

[Anth1888]

I'm sure Marvel are tracking the success of Lucy in perspective of a Black Widow solo film but I feel she was already a second main character in the Captain America TWS - I really can't see them making one but would not be surprised if they did.

Lucy is R-rated in the States it's only a 12A here. Pretty big difference I mean it's not even a 15.

 

[kurahador]

No. Movies need to make back at least double.
It will though.

Worldwide.

 

[Blackstarhat]

of course they did, how else could they be armchair angry

i watched it at the theater yesterday. honestly the trailer makes the movie look alot more fun than what it really is i was board through most of the film and the film got boarderline stupid at the end.

Spoiler

her time traveling and turning into a usb drive was too much for me.

 

[Inferno313]

I'm sure Marvel are tracking the success of Lucy in perspective of a Black Widow solo film but I feel she was already a second main character in the Captain America films - I really can't see them making one but would not be surprised if they did.

In Winter Soldier you mean? She wasn't even in the first one at all.

 

[Wafflecakes]

Not gunna lie. I am a bitter bitter about How To Train Your Dragon 2's gross. It is a great movie.

Same thing happened to Kung Fu Panda 2.

 

[Anth1888]

In Winter Soldier you mean? She wasn't even in the first one at all.

Yeah sorry, I meant Winter Solider. It was the right balance having them both in the film as main characters to a point were there is no need for a solo film - even in The Avengers she had as much screen time as Captain America.

 

[See You Next Wednesday]

lucy is a terrible movie

And people are stupid to think using more than 10% of your brains gives you super powers like stopping time & telekinesis.

Stupid millennials.

 

[Cyan]

Lucy budget surprisingly low.

They only used 10% of their budget.

 

[BronsonLee]

They only used 10% of their budget.

...Well met, Cyan. *slow clap*

 

[zero_suit]

They only used 10% of their budget.

Brilliant

 

[Aquamarine]

How to Train Your Dragon vs. How To Train Your Dragon 2:


HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $43,732,319
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $92,135,916
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $133,404,438
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $158,251,066
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $178,345,927
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $192,173,750
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $201,013,867
($217,581,231 LIFETIME DOMESTIC GROSS)

HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $49,451,322
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $94,596,047
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $121,952,229
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $140,215,452
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $152,276,733
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $160,776,604
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $165,629,000 (STUDIO ESTIMATE)

CURRENT PERFORMANCE: BEHIND $35,384,867 (ESTIMATE) COMPARED TO PREDECESSOR



HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $42,300,810
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $100,084,145
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $150,300,000
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $177,000,000
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $188,771,905
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $204,400,000
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $212,669,147
($277,297,528 LIFETIME INTERNATIONAL GROSS)

HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $25,682,213
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $75,917,445
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $107,369,102
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $148,176,207
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $197,664,019
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $224,766,666
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $258,500,000 (ESTIMATE)

CURRENT PERFORMANCE: AHEAD $45,830,853 (ESTIMATE) COMPARED TO PREDECESSOR




HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $86,033,129
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $192,220,061
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $283,704,438
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $335,251,066
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $367,117,832
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $396,573,750
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $413,683,014
($494,878,759 LIFETIME WORLDWIDE GROSS)

HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $75,133,535
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $170,513,492
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $229,321,331
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $288,391,659
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $349,940,752
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $385,543,270
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $424,129,000 (ESTIMATE)

CURRENT PERFORMANCE: AHEAD $10,445,986 (ESTIMATE) COMPARED TO PREDECESSOR




Worldwide Grosses for Animated Dreamworks Movies:

1) Shrek 2 (2004, $150 million budget): $919,838,758
2) Shrek 3 (2007, $160 million budget): $798,958,162
3) Shrek 4 (2010, $165 million budget): $752,600,867
4) Madagascar 3 (2012, $145 million budget): $746,921,274
5) Kung Fu Panda 2 (2011, $150 million budget): $665,692,281
6) Kung Fu Panda (2008, $130 million budget): $631,744,560
7) Madagascar 2 (2008, $150 million budget): $603,900,354
8) The Croods (2013, $135 million budget): $587,204,668
9) Puss in Boots (2011, $130 million budget): $554,987,477
10) Madagascar (2005, $75 million budget): $532,680,671
11) HTTYD 1 (2010, $165 million budget): $494,878,759
12) Shrek (2001, $60 million budget): $484,409,218
13) HTTYD 2 (2014, $145 million budget): $424,129,000 (estimated)
14) Monsters Vs. Aliens (2009, $175 million budget): $381,509,870
15) Shark Tale (2004, $75 million budget): $367,275,019
16) Over the Hedge (2006, $80 million budget): $336,002,996
17) Megamind (2010, $130 million budget): $321,885,765
18) Rise of the Guardians (2012, $145 million budget): $306,941,670
19) Bee Movie (2007, $150 million budget): $287,594,577
20) Turbo (2013, $127 million budget): $282,570,682
21) Mr. Peabody & Sherman (2014, $145 million budget): $268,604,423
22) Chicken Run (2000, $45 million budget): $224,834,564
23) The Prince of Egypt (1998, $70 million budget): $218,613,188
24) Wallace & Gromit (2005, $30 million budget): $192,610,372
25) Flushed Away (2006, $149 million budget): $178,120,010
26) Antz (1998, $105 million budget): $171,757,863
27) Spirit (2002, $80 million budget): $122,563,539
28) Sinbad (2003, $60 million budget): $80,767,884
29) The Road to El Dorado (2000, $95 million budget): $76,432,727




Planes vs. Planes 2:


PLANES DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $22,232,291
PLANES DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $45,338,402
($90,288,712 LIFETIME DOMESTIC GROSS)

PLANES 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $17,509,407
PLANES 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $35,121,000 (STUDIO ESTIMATE)

CURRENT PERFORMANCE: BEHIND $10,217,402 (ESTIMATE) COMPARED TO PREDECESSOR



PLANES INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $7,300,000
PLANES INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $17,800,000
($129,500,000 LIFETIME INTERNATIONAL GROSS)

PLANES 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $9,000,000
PLANES 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $21,000,000 (ESTIMATE)

CURRENT PERFORMANCE: AHEAD $3,200,000 (ESTIMATE) COMPARED TO PREDECESSOR




UNADJUSTED PLANES WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $22,232,291 (DOMESTIC ONLY)
UNADJUSTED PLANES WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $45,338,402 (DOMESTIC WEEK 2 + INTERNATIONAL WEEK 1) (PLANES LAUNCHED A WEEK EARLIER DOMESTICALLY)
ADJUSTED PLANES WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $29,532,291 (DOMESTIC WEEK 1 + INTERNATIONAL WEEK 1)
ADJUSTED PLANES WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $63,138,402 (DOMESTIC WEEK 2 + INTERNATIONAL WEEK 2)
($219,788,712 WORLDWIDE INTERNATIONAL GROSS)

PLANES 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $26,509,407 (DOMESTIC WEEK 1 + INTERNATIONAL WEEK 1)
PLANES 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2) $56,121,000 (DOMESTIC WEEK 2 + INTERNATIONAL WEEK 2)

CURRENT PERFORMANCE: AHEAD $10,782,598 UNADJUSTED (ESTIMATE), BEHIND $7,017,402 ADJUSTED (ESTIMATE) COMPARED TO PREDECESSOR




Planes 2 continues its disappointing trend despite outperforming its predecessor internationally (adjusted).

In other news, not only has HTTYD 2 blown past the $400 million worldwide mark, but it's also tracking ahead of HTTYD for the first time in a while. Dreamworks has got to be pleased with that. Looking forward to their Q2 release + conference call on the 29th when they'll discuss HTTYD 2 performances in terms of profitability.

 

[JaseC]

Lucy is R-rated in the States it's only a 12A here. Pretty big difference I mean it's not even a 15.

The line between PG and R in the US is a rather fine one these days. The country needs a rating between the two already, like, well, everywhere else.

 

[DarkFlow]

The line between PG and R in the US is a rather fine one these days. The country needs a rating between the two already, like, well, everywhere else.

Not sure if serious.jpg

 

[Wafflecakes]

11) HTTYD 1 (2010, $165 million budget): $494,878,759

13) HTTYD 2 (2014, $145 million budget): $424,129,000 (estimated)

Really hope that HTTYD 2 can at least match the original.

 

[JaseC]

Not sure if serious.jpg

itsamystery.gif

(The first half was less serious in service of driving home the second -- Lucy is an extreme example, but I do think the lack of a 15+ rating in the US is a bit of a problem as it results in many films being rated higher than they should.)

 

[AHA-Lambda]

Second best movie of the summer behind Godzilla.

But Godzilla was awful =/

 

[Chris R]

Sucks for Hercules but after hearing about the

Spoiler

bait and switch

I'm kinda glad.

 

[Nokterian]

Scarjo surpassing the rock? Good job luc besson and Scarjo i can say well deserved.

 

[Dai101]

I'll go to watch Lucy and pretend is a Black Widow solo movie.

 

[ThisOne]

Sucks for Hercules but after hearing about the

Spoiler

bait and switch

I'm kinda glad.

I have no intention of seeing it but I'm curious about the spoiler.

Spoiler

How was it a bait and switch?

 

[neogaffer1]

itsamystery.gif

(The first half was less serious in service of driving home the second -- Lucy is an extreme example, but I do think the lack of a 15+ rating in the US is a bit of a problem as it results in many films being rated higher than they should.)

PG-13?

 

[Effect]

Sucks for Hercules but after hearing about the

Spoiler

bait and switch

I'm kinda glad.

I'm not even sure it was that. The trailers clearly question things. So one should be prepared for that. Even then I've been hearing that the film overall is good.

 

[JaseC]

I have no intention of seeing it but I'm curious about the spoiler.

Spoiler

How was it a bait and switch?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=861847

PG-13?

I'm aware of PG-13, which is why I said 15+. When I said "PG" before I was using it as a collective term to refer to both.

 

[mjc]

I have no intention of seeing it but I'm curious about the spoiler.

Spoiler

How was it a bait and switch?

Spoiler

The monsters and labors he fought through were all stories made up to make him look tough.

 

[DarkFlow]

itsamystery.gif

(The first half was less serious in service of driving home the second -- Lucy is an extreme example, but I do think the lack of a 15+ rating in the US is a bit of a problem as it results in many films being rated higher than they should.)

We have PG-13, the sweet spot most action movies aim for.

 

[JaseC]

We have PG-13, the sweet spot most action movies aim for.

See above. Films rated R in the US tend to be rated MA15+ here (Australia), just to offer a broad example of what I was getting at. I realise enacting change within an old, deeply-rooted system can be difficult, though. Just look at how long it took Australia to get R18+ for games (not that it changed much, but I digress).

Edit: To be clear, I'm just thinking out loud rather than attempting to argue that the US' film rating system is in dire need of a little more granularity. The idea is simply something that popped into my head again for the first time in quite a while upon seeing Lucy's R.

 

[Neoxon]

Good to see Lucy do well; I got rather tired of the "female lead action movies don't do well because it's female lead" BS excuse.

The bad news is that we likely won't get a Black Widow movie regardless.

The good news is that we may get a Captain Marvel movie now because of this.

Yeah sorry, I meant Winter Solider. It was the right balance having them both in the film as main characters to a point were there is no need for a solo film - even in The Avengers she had as much screen time as Captain America.

You can thank the scrapped Black Widow script for that.

 

[xaosslug]

ww chart added

 

[Matt_]

Really hope that HTTYD 2 can at least match the original.

I hope so too
As it is, it's probably the biggest disappointment of the summer gross wise.
Maleficent being so strong probably didn't help, maybe they should have moved it back a week

 

[Mr Croft]

lucy is a terrible movie

A bad film indeed.

 

[Chamber]

Really wish I watched Lucy instead of Hercules. Herc was awful.

 

[Killing_Joke]

So Transformers can barely get pass 250mil with ease and yet it will still hit 1B fucking dollars? Well you can't blame America anymore.

Hercules did better then i thought with little to no marketing. And holy shit at Lucy. Movie looked horrible. Legit shook.

 

[KillerMan91]

We have PG-13, the sweet spot most action movies aim for.

PG13 has been the curse of action movies for long time. If there were something between PG13 and R maybe more studios would not butcher their movies to fit PG13.

 

[Anth1888]

PG13 has been the curse of action movies for long time. If there were something between PG13 and R maybe more studios would not butcher their movies to fit PG13.

I don't want to derail this thread into a film certification but I think the UK has the best rating system with U, PG, 12A, 15 and 18 and the BBFC get it right the majority of the time. Although with R you can have a adult present which the BBFC does not offer only with the 12 rating.

You can thank the scrapped Black Widow script for that.

Oh never knew that! That explains it then, the Black Widow character was great in TWS.

No film has made $300million domestic yet at the U.S. box office then? If Transformers can't hit it, we only have Interstellar and Mockingjay that have a shot with a left-field choice The Maze Runner - in line the THG but not sure how big a following Maze Runner has culturally.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

You think The Maze Runner could break out like that? the trailer is interesting, but how popular are the books?

 

[Wafflecakes]

I hope so too
As it is, it's probably the biggest disappointment of the summer gross wise.
Maleficent being so strong probably didn't help, maybe they should have moved it back a week

My big hope is that it does a lot better than the first in China, where it opens in two weeks.

The film is not a flop by any means, but it could have been so much bigger.


As I have stated before. I think 4 years between films is FAR too long.

You think The Maze Runner could break out like that? the trailer is interesting, but how popular are the books?

The books were more popular a few years back, but with a high profile lead I think it has a shot.

 

[KillerMan91]

I don't want to derail this thread into a film certification but I think the UK has the best rating system with U, PG, 12A, 15 and 18 and the BBFC get it right the majority of the time. Although with R you can have a adult present which the BBFC does not offer only with the 12 rating.

We took the Pegi ratings to apply to movies too couple of years ago (Finland) so we have S (for all), 7, 12, 16 and 18. This leads to some rather weird ratings though with Hollywood movies. Some borderline R movies that are still PG 13 in US are rated 16 but then again also most R movies are rated 16 too lol.

 

[Anth1888]

You think The Maze Runner will break out like that? the trailer is interesting, but how popular are the books?

I have no idea how big culturally this is in the States, I mean The Hunger Games grossed $400million domestically but little was known about the series in the UK but it exploded after the first movie came out with the books in stores everywhere - but I presume the series was huge before the film was released in the U.S.

The YA market is difficult to measure as recent franchise starters have either flopped or been unsuccessful - The Host, The Mortal Instruments, Beautiful Creatures - Divergent underperformed?