The run the movie is based on came from 2008, was part of several critically acclaimed and well loved events, and was hailed at the time as one of the best books coming out in the dredge of post-civil war Marvel. It's not that the book was obscure, it made a lot of sense coming out of Avengers (granted, less sense than Nova), it's just that no one actually cares about comic books.
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Wkd Box Office 0919-2114 - audiences would rather Run than Walk @ theaters
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The run the movie is based on came from 2008, was part of several critically acclaimed and well loved events, and was hailed at the time as one of the best books coming out in the dredge of post-civil war Marvel. It's not that the book was obscure, it made a lot of sense coming out of Avengers (granted, less sense than Nova), it's just that no one actually cares about comic books.
Wafflecakes
Member
I still need to see GOTG. Maybe sometime this week...
Rickelodeon
Member
Saw Guardians for the 4th, probably final, at least for a while, time at the drive-in. I love it so much, and so glad it was the success it rightfully deserved. Also saw TMNT for a 2nd time as the double feature, still pretty fun movie.
Guardians has had a fantastic run by any measure:
http://boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=superhero.htm
http://boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=superhero.htm
Thunder Monkey
Banned
I had a few Guardians books from the 90's, but it never really clicked with me so those few were all I bought. The movie was spectacular though. I knew if WoM was good the movie would be successful, but it's opening weekend took me by surprise. It started much higher than I was expecting. And it's had a much longer tail than I expected.
Marvel is definitely one of the most consistent money makers in Hollywood right now. Which is just odd when you think about it.
Marvel is definitely one of the most consistent money makers in Hollywood right now. Which is just odd when you think about it.
Hero_of_the_Day
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I bet we have it next summer, too. And the summer after that. And the summer after that...
I'm not saying they won't fall out of favor, but it won't be any time soon.
A low opening for him, but it's a more limited release. Plus a lower budget than Clerks II/Cop Out/Zack and Miri
HerbertFish
Member
Really mad The Drop is sort of bombing. Probably my favorite film this year. Definitely the best acted. Hardy and Gandolfini deserve accolades come award season.
They really fucked up the marketing on it.
They really fucked up the marketing on it.
Diprosalic
Banned
seems like a movie that will do better on bluray but yeah, should be fine.
cj_iwakura
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A low opening for him, but it's a more limited release. Plus a lower budget than Clerks II/Cop Out/Zack and Miri
Red State made that much in 5 theaters? Yikes.
Production budget isn't everything - if enough was spent on marketing the film, a low-budget movie could gross several times its budget and still be a commercial failure.
That said, I don't know how much A24 actually spent to market it - probably not that massive given that it only got a semi-wide release - but the per-theater numbers are pretty lousy.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
He'll be fine because he's got 1-2 million people who will buy anything he puts out regardless. So long as he doesn't make anything with a budget north of 10-15 million from here on out, he can feast on those 2 million people dropping 20-30 bucks apiece on everything he does from here on out and never really sweat it.
Sho_Nuff82
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Maze Runner was made on a $35 million budget? Nearly every shot from the trailers is CGI. Impressive budget work.
Aquamarine
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$34 million production budget. One of the reasons it had such a big opening relative to its small production budget is because it apparently had a lot of money (relatively speaking) poured into advertising.
It has an estimated ~$70 million production + marketing budget, so it will need like ~$140 million combined lifetime grosses to make a profit off of the box office alone.
But still, it's well on its way with a $81.5 million worldwide opening.
Wafflecakes
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Yup. Plus they went with quality TV talent instead of hoping to crutch on established film stars. Probably saved a bundle.
Aquamarine
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It's not updated on BOM for whatever reason, but according to Rentrak, How to Train Your Dragon 2 sold $1.27 million across 2,227 screens in 29 markets for an updated International estimate of $436.9 million.
Combine this with the updated domestic total of $175,576,448 and we have an estimated $612,476,448 million worldwide gross figure.
Its next milestone is Kung Fu Panda at $631 million, and it looks unlikely that HTTYD 2 will ever reach that point. In that event, HTTYD 2 will stand as DWA's 7th most successful film unadjusted for inflation.
Combine this with the updated domestic total of $175,576,448 and we have an estimated $612,476,448 million worldwide gross figure.
Its next milestone is Kung Fu Panda at $631 million, and it looks unlikely that HTTYD 2 will ever reach that point. In that event, HTTYD 2 will stand as DWA's 7th most successful film unadjusted for inflation.
Ninja Scooter
Member
They should just start calling these movies "Liam Neeson Kills Shit Part 2, 3, 4, ect...", or "The Movie Your Dad Will Want To Watch"
Aquamarine
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One more update.
We finally got some new up-to-date international numbers from Disney's "Planes: Fire & Rescue" on BOM. It's been months since we've seen solid International numbers.
Anyway, Domestic is at $58.57 million and International is at $80.18 million for a combined Worldwide estimate of $138.75 million as of September 21st.
I predict the whole venture has been a net loss from the studio (from box office proceeds alone).
Compare the following:
Planes (2013)
$219.79 million worldwide gross
$50 million development budget, $90 million estimated development + marketing budget
Disney probably brought in an estimated $110 million in revenue from the box office alone
Overall, the film was probably a net profit from box office proceeds
Planes: Fire & Rescue (2014)
$138.75 million worldwide gross
$50 million development budget, $83 million estimated development + marketing budget
Disney probably brought in a estimated $70 million in revenue from the box office alone
Overall, the film was probably a net loss from box office proceeds
It's a shame to see the sequel have such disappointing legs compared to the original.
Since the sequel probably won't make Disney money from the box office alone (so Disney will have to rely on other methods, most notably merchandising, to recoup the costs), I'm not sure Disney will jump to greenlight another sequel.
They might reorient DisneyToon Studios to another project instead. However, if Planes: Fire & Rescue brings in a LOT of profit in Merchandising, that may be enough to give it another try.
If so, I expect more drops. The Cars IP seems to be losing momentum as it approaches its 10th anniversary. Maybe Pixar's Cars 3 will rejuvenate interest.
We finally got some new up-to-date international numbers from Disney's "Planes: Fire & Rescue" on BOM. It's been months since we've seen solid International numbers.
Anyway, Domestic is at $58.57 million and International is at $80.18 million for a combined Worldwide estimate of $138.75 million as of September 21st.
I predict the whole venture has been a net loss from the studio (from box office proceeds alone).
Compare the following:
Planes (2013)
$219.79 million worldwide gross
$50 million development budget, $90 million estimated development + marketing budget
Disney probably brought in an estimated $110 million in revenue from the box office alone
Overall, the film was probably a net profit from box office proceeds
Planes: Fire & Rescue (2014)
$138.75 million worldwide gross
$50 million development budget, $83 million estimated development + marketing budget
Disney probably brought in a estimated $70 million in revenue from the box office alone
Overall, the film was probably a net loss from box office proceeds
It's a shame to see the sequel have such disappointing legs compared to the original.
Since the sequel probably won't make Disney money from the box office alone (so Disney will have to rely on other methods, most notably merchandising, to recoup the costs), I'm not sure Disney will jump to greenlight another sequel.
They might reorient DisneyToon Studios to another project instead. However, if Planes: Fire & Rescue brings in a LOT of profit in Merchandising, that may be enough to give it another try.
If so, I expect more drops. The Cars IP seems to be losing momentum as it approaches its 10th anniversary. Maybe Pixar's Cars 3 will rejuvenate interest.
Serpentine
Banned
Tusk was a weird mess, but it was still pretty entertaining.
I've been wanting to see Tombstones since i found out it was the same dude who did The Lookout. I liked that one.
I've been wanting to see Tombstones since i found out it was the same dude who did The Lookout. I liked that one.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I just saw the Maze Runner tonight - I have to say it is a fantastic movie.
Furthermore, Dylan O'brien really surprised me, he delivered on all fronts.
Happy that Fox announced a sequel is already in production as the ending, wow - that cliffhanger, so good.
Furthermore, Dylan O'brien really surprised me, he delivered on all fronts.
Happy that Fox announced a sequel is already in production as the ending, wow - that cliffhanger, so good.
It will almost certainly pass it this weekend. From there is will likely putter along for another $5-10 million.
jamesinclair
Banned
Hey guys, I need to take my dad to a movie tonight....
A Walk Among the Tombstones
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The Equalizer
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I know nothing about either one and the synopsis looks almost identical
A Walk Among the Tombstones
or
The Equalizer
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I know nothing about either one and the synopsis looks almost identical
Should creep past Iron Man on Saturday. As of Wednesday it was only about $3 million back.
Tombstone is more of a slow investigation movie than action, Equalizer seems like pure action cheese fest.
Depends on what you or your dad want to watch I guess.
jamesinclair
Banned
Hm....I guess action is good.
That's such a sure thing it isn't even worth talking about anymore. Iron Man is $8.5M behind Guardians as of yesterday and Guardians has outgrossed Iron Man (at a comparable point in its run) every week for the past month.
The Low end for Guardians of the Galaxy is $325M.
What's the next realistic milestone for GotG after IM? IM3 doesn't look possible, so would it be Spider-man 3's $336 million in the list of comic adaptations?
JesseEwiak
Member
It's weird looking at Kevin Smith's career that he hasn't ever been mainstream (even though I'm assuming movies like Clerks and Mallrats have done probably insane numbers on home box office) and in all reality, the height of his "mainstream popularity" was probably the '99-'01 era with Dogma and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back both making $30 million.
Because after that, you get the triple whammy of Jersey Girl, Clerks II, and Zack & Miri all probably preforming below expectations. I mean, Cop Out made $44 million, but I don't think many people in Iowa knew more than it was the new Bruce Willis movie.
Because after that, you get the triple whammy of Jersey Girl, Clerks II, and Zack & Miri all probably preforming below expectations. I mean, Cop Out made $44 million, but I don't think many people in Iowa knew more than it was the new Bruce Willis movie.
Friday Studio Estimates
1) The Equilizer - $12.6M
2) The Maze Runner - $5.2M - $46M total
3) Boxtrolls - $4.9M
4) This is Where I Leave You - $2.2M - $18M total
5) No Good Deed - $1.4M - $44M
6) A Walk Among the Tombstones - $1.3M - $18M
7) Dolphin Tale 2 - $1.3M - $30M total
8) Guardians of the Galaxy - $1.0M - $316M
I don't think it will move any higher on the superhero list after passing Iron Man 1. If it continues to hold well, $330M for Guardians might happen, but that's probably about as high as the film will go. $336M would require a strong re-expansion, and most recent re-expansions have only added $1-3M to the tally.
1) The Equilizer - $12.6M
2) The Maze Runner - $5.2M - $46M total
3) Boxtrolls - $4.9M
4) This is Where I Leave You - $2.2M - $18M total
5) No Good Deed - $1.4M - $44M
6) A Walk Among the Tombstones - $1.3M - $18M
7) Dolphin Tale 2 - $1.3M - $30M total
8) Guardians of the Galaxy - $1.0M - $316M
I don't think it will move any higher on the superhero list after passing Iron Man 1. If it continues to hold well, $330M for Guardians might happen, but that's probably about as high as the film will go. $336M would require a strong re-expansion, and most recent re-expansions have only added $1-3M to the tally.
Weekend Studio Estimates
1) The Equilizer - $35.0M
2) The Maze Runner - $17.5M - $58M total
3) Boxtrolls - $17.3M
4) This is Where I Leave You - $7.0M - $23M total
5) Dolphin Tale 2 - $4.8M - $34M total
6) No Good Deed - $4.6M - $47M
7) A Walk Among the Tombstones - $4.2M - $21M
8) Guardians of the Galaxy - $3.8M - $319M
Worldwide Updates:
- Guardians of the Galaxy - $644M
- Lucy - $395M
1) The Equilizer - $35.0M
2) The Maze Runner - $17.5M - $58M total
3) Boxtrolls - $17.3M
4) This is Where I Leave You - $7.0M - $23M total
5) Dolphin Tale 2 - $4.8M - $34M total
6) No Good Deed - $4.6M - $47M
7) A Walk Among the Tombstones - $4.2M - $21M
8) Guardians of the Galaxy - $3.8M - $319M
Worldwide Updates:
- Guardians of the Galaxy - $644M
- Lucy - $395M
He is the new Steven Seagal, except a box office success
And they said it would bomb.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I don't get this classification.
What "franchise" are they starting?
"Marvel" is the franchise. All the films are part of the same series, and each film is building on the last in that series.
What is hard to understand? Each superhero/team is a franchise
Corpsepyre
Banned
There's no way it wouldn't have been. We're talking Disney here. Even if the movie itself blew or was average, it would have definitely made money at the box office. It's just how it works now. Every Marvel movie, post Avengers, has been a money machine. Even Thor made way more than its first part did. Same with Capt.
metalslimer
Member
At some point one of these movies will underperform. I don't know if it will be Ant-Man, but looking ahead that seems to be the one that has the biggest chance of underperforming. Of course, underperforming for Marvel would still make them money. I don't expect any Marvel movie in the near future to straight up bomb.
Chezzymann
Member
I think he's talking about how most people view all the movies in the marvel cinematic universe as a single franchise since they're all interconnected and build off each other's success (Ex, Cap 2 getting a huge boost from the avengers) and exchange characters between movies.
But yeah, guardians can obviously be classified as its own franchise, but its also a part of a bigger franchise as well. So its two franchises at the same time. Or something.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Marvel is the franchise. That that there are differently titled series within that franchise doesn't make those titles their own franchises. They're concieved, produced, and presented as interlocking pieces of the same whole.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Weekend chart is out:
http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/
Equalizer 35 million
The Maze Runner 17.5 million
Box-Troll 17.25 million
So happy for the Maze Runner! Really great film.
http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/
Equalizer 35 million
The Maze Runner 17.5 million
Box-Troll 17.25 million
So happy for the Maze Runner! Really great film.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
Very Well Deserved. GOTG is one of the biggest Surprises of the year. Same Dawn of Planet of the Apes.
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