Beat the game and it unlocks. Die and you restart. Never going to touch it myself.
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Wolfenstein: The Old Blood |OT| Out With The New Order, In With The Old Blood
- Thread starter orthodoxy1095
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Oh, so it's like Ironman mode in TNO. This game is alot shorter so I might go for it at some point.
User 479360
Banned
A mode like that for a game such as this is just stupid, in my opinion. It's so cheap and poorly balanced on uber that ironmanning it would be ridiculously annoying.
Machinegames needs to work on its difficulties.
Not that I am aware of and I platinumed TNO.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Is the new order good? Amazon has a bundle for both.
Uber sucked in TNO too and this game is harder. Death Incarnate once you get most of the perks feels perfect to me.
New Order is one of my favorite FPS ever.
Best game of 2014 IMO.
terrdactycalsrock
Member
Just finished it. Absolutely loved it! I cant believe how good machine games is at story telling, atmosphere, and even gameplay. My only complaint is that shitty boss fight at the end.
Thanks
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
User 479360
Banned
Uber should be fun despite its difficulty, like veteran is in Call of Duty. But it's not, and that's on the developers. It lessens the game's appeal and quality, and frankly annoys me.
31GhostsIV
Banned
I'm still not feeling it at all, which saddens me because I loved TNO. I'm just finding the game frustrating and not particularly compelling. It's taken me three days to find the motivation to get to chapter three.
I had the platinum in TNO but for some reason it's like i've forgotten how to shoot in a straight line in TOB.
Could just be my game tastes have shifted and it's a side-effect of living in a post-Bloodborne world.
I had the platinum in TNO but for some reason it's like i've forgotten how to shoot in a straight line in TOB.
Could just be my game tastes have shifted and it's a side-effect of living in a post-Bloodborne world.
You and I have very different definitions of fun.
Messofanego
Banned
How so? Haven't had a problem so far (PC), am on chapter 4. It's a great challenge, never felt frustrated. Keeps me on my toes literally, and have been getting flanked more often compared to The New Order on Uber. It would be cheap if enemies somehow became bullet sponges like in other FPSs, or if they employed one-shot kill tactics, but I didn't see any of that.
User 479360
Banned
I find it frustrating, because of grenade spamming, cheap perfect aiming enemies and a lack of cover at points. It doesn't feel like it melds well with the gameplay.
I'm not a big fan of TNO, or this (thus far), though.
Messofanego
Banned
Oh, having a sneaky peaky?
Bye!
Bye!
Messofanego
Banned
If you're stuck in one place for too long, they'll throw grenades but throwing them back is pretty easy too. I don't find the enemies having perfect aiming, maybe the marksmen but that's to be expected which means gotta use the Bombenschuss on them. Pretty much everything is a cover if you're leaning. This is nothing on the level of Call of Duty veteran.
I'm not a great player or anything, but here is me in a battle on chapter 3 on Uber:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxymj6YA7NY
DomsPlaying
Member
"Count to Four. Inhale.
Count to Four. Exhale."
So that quote came from here in this prequel, which he repeats in The New Order during the torture.
Very cool.
This was one of my favorite moments during this prequel. I wondered if they might connect the games via dialogue, and this is really cool.
I'm almost done with the game and I think it's been generally fun!
Intheflorsh
Banned
It's weird, because of whatever effect youtube compression has on that video, the sound mix is much better.
Seriously man, drop down to Death Incarnate. Uber seems like it's killing your fun and DI is still a challenge.
User 479360
Banned
I want to, but don't want to lose the reward for beating it on uber. Haha.
May want to fight the midboss on Chapter 4 before you get too defensive of Uber. It was pretty much my turning point and almost soured me on the entire game and difficulty. Up to that point the game felt like a doable if occasionally irritating challenge, but that fight...total garbage.
Up to Chapter 7 now and everything since Ch. 4 on Uber has been a serious breeze, but I was left kind of cold on the game and its balancing due to those few rough spots in Ch. 4.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Then you really have only yourself to blame, not the game really.
I found the game a lot easier in part two as well. The combat areas seemed to have a much better distribution of cover and supplies.
Stevey
Member
It's not even that hard on Uber.
Moff
Member
this franchise is in such good hands, absolutely love the gameplay, how easily the tie together stealth parts and shootouts, and you are even free to act as you wish, always with different ways through the levels. and there is just the right amount of nostalgia, I love how the use music from the classic wolf3d like in chapter 4. and then there is tons of meta content with the perks and collectibles to motivate further. absolutely love this expansion. I just wish the engine wouldnt suck so hard. oh and I don't like the pipe.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
Finished Über today. Wasn't as horrific as I thought it would be, though you're still forced to stick to cover more than you normally would and going for the stealth approach is generally preferred. Repositioning also works well enough if there's adequate cover to speak of should shit hit the fan.
Also dreaded facing the final boss, but he's actually fairly easy once you use the
. Smooth sailing from thereon.
, sit in a corner and shoot. I'm surprised how little damage it did on Über after your posts. Common infantry
dishes out far higher DPS.
Also dreaded facing the final boss, but he's actually fairly easy once you use the
silenced pistol to dispatch the nazis the boss isn't taking care of
Literally all you have to do in that fight is pick up
the mini-gun
and the Super Soldier before him
NullPointer
Member
Just finished my first run on Bring em on and that was fucking awesome. There were plenty of stealth areas to chew on, but I never felt even one solitary pang of regret when I messed up because the ensuing destruction and carnage was too damn good to pass up on.
I think I'd like more time with each of the challenge rooms before attempting story runs on the higher difficulties though. The most complex and toughest bits of each chapter are there for replays and score runs, but running through those gauntlets also helps to remember the best areas for cover and resupply and deviousness.
In terms of story and character The New Order stands tall, but for a shitton of focused run and gun bloody hell scenarios with optional steathy stabbination The Old Blood takes the prize, and for cheap too. Machine Games has done some great work here.
I think I'd like more time with each of the challenge rooms before attempting story runs on the higher difficulties though. The most complex and toughest bits of each chapter are there for replays and score runs, but running through those gauntlets also helps to remember the best areas for cover and resupply and deviousness.
In terms of story and character The New Order stands tall, but for a shitton of focused run and gun bloody hell scenarios with optional steathy stabbination The Old Blood takes the prize, and for cheap too. Machine Games has done some great work here.
Jazzkokehead
Member
That nightmare level in the prologue... oh god. I swear, the Wolf 3D SS troops are the hardest enemies in the game.
I wanted to try that, but the gun disappeared after my first death(glitch?), leaving me forced to use my own arsenal. Baiting it in the corner of the shed and counting the shots between it running back to the spawn point to avoid damage and it literally took 2 entire clips of the sniper gun, a full clip of shotguns, and a couple hits of grenade pistol before it died for me on Uber.
Just kind of bullshit and impossible in a straight fight if the Super soldier MG disappears like it did for me. But I am glad to know that it WAS super effective. That initial entrance caught me off guard and both the body and gun were gone when reloading after getting swiped to death the first time. So I was left cursing that garbage, while the trick was effectively removed from my game.
Chance Hale
Member
Uber is incredibly easy throughout and the enemies don't grenade spam like they do in Call of Duty. Keep moving(you will accidentally run into one of the 5000 armor pickups), use the ability to lean(how crazy!) and it's really easy. My biggest complaint with the New Order and the Old Blood is how easy they are on Uber. You have so many weapons that at no point does the game ever become challenging as long as you pay attention. Do play with a mouse though so mowing through enemies is very fast.
Edit: How crazy in the sense of lean being in a FPS again, not in a snarky way
Edit: How crazy in the sense of lean being in a FPS again, not in a snarky way
User 479360
Banned
Controller here
Moff
Member
I'd say it's much easier with a mouse, I just killed the chapter 4 boss on my first try on uber. he had me down to 3hitpoints though.
was a great fight, though, this game is so well designed.
Where the hell is it in the prologue? I went through it very carefully twice and couldn't find it.
GoodCoffeeJoey
Banned
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Unfortunately until tonight I had only gotten to play through the prologue as I had two finals to prep for. I finished Chapter 1 and am getting into Chapter 2 now. But man, that stealth section really did kill the good mood I had at the beginning. Glad to get that over and see it opening back up.
LOL it's the second time on this page I missed a similar thing. Dammit
It's honestly really just one particular hallway that's bad in chapter one but yeah, it kills a lot of the momentum and the stealth isn't even as fun as the standard stealth. Game gets steadily better from there on out.
I love this guy's "no fucks given" face compared to what happened to him.
Wow didn't realize that you could blow holes in enemies. FANTASTIC!
OldGangWarily
Member
Just finished the game. Thought it was alright...
I think the The New Order is far better designed although I love the aesthetics of The Old Blood. The boss designs were absolutely awful though (especially that last boss).
I think the The New Order is far better designed although I love the aesthetics of The Old Blood. The boss designs were absolutely awful though (especially that last boss).
Marty-esque
Member
Finished on uber on ps4. Very satisfied. If you like TNO you'll like this. I don't think uber is any more difficult than TNO.
Messofanego
Banned
Which one is the "midboss",
the dog
If it's that, like the other poster said, I just used the MG (too bad about your glitch): https://youtu.be/bU0kT_ZRUCQ
Wasn't a fan of the bridge, too many long-ranged skirmishes but the Bombenschuss just feels so good with those headshots.
Kurt Russell
Member
I didn't have issues with uber until I reached the final boss. Now I'm stuck there.
Not sure if it works on Uber but
if you go to the upper ledge and put your back against the wall most of his attacks can't even hit you.
My only pet peeve with this game,besides being really hard in some places,like when they decide to strip all your weapons and you have 10 guys firing at you,is the annoying alarm blazing non stop until you clear the area or kill the commanders,whish there was a slider just for those lol...