Well you could, but the backlash would be incredible.
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Well you could, but the backlash would be incredible.
lets be honest they ruined their own economy with each expansion.
so just making wow 2 for the sake of resetting the economy is just a bandaid.
still won't fix the bad design decision being made by these bad game developers.
Just like these same people in charge of this game can't create a good world pvp instanced zone at all. Then they refuse to spend time trying to fix it once its release upon the public.
I propose a game of sorts for the thread. How about you say yay/nay if you think Demon Hunters are coming next expac, and then what sort of characteristics they'll have. I'll give my take. Then we can look at how close we were if they are revealed as a new class
Demon Hunters - yay
Start at higher level (maybe 90)
Tank/melee dps/ranged dps (I don't think adding more pures is something they'll do, rather the opposite and give pures new specs for other roles)
Weapons: Daggers, Swords, Polearms (maybe?), Guns, Bows
Mail armor (obvious one)
Mana users and a secondary resource like Hate
Optional perma pet with ranged spec
Yeah. If Demon Hunters have a ranged and melee spec and can use daggers and bows/guns that helps that problem a lot. And mail wearing.
Well honestly the could make a "gun" that is dual pistols. Same weapon type but new animations. Not sure we need new actual weapon types, but definitely more weapon visual variety.
Like if they add standard warglaives, those could be swords.
I think that weapon pool is too much for one class. I mean they made the weapon pools for the current classes pretty slim for the most part. Adding a class that can get basically all agi weapons is kinda messed up if you ask me. a class that uses the same stats for melee and ranged worries me as well.
I didn't include axes or maces, and Warriors can use every weapon type except wands (though guns and bows are just cosmetic/rp for them now)
JSoup
Banned
I didn't even go that far. I started, but I needed the inn spot for the lumber mill for naval achievements. For me, just doing my daily gathering and converting weekly barn orders into bags make a surprisingly nice no effort profit.
There's no way around that though unfortunately. But there needs to be another class that can use ranged weapons.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
cloth melee?
Yeah that's the problem - there'd be like no distinction from actual hunters. Only other option would be Leather which already had 3 classes.
That's how I imagine demon hunters would be.
I hope it's not a demon hunter as the new thing because there's no way it could be what people want it to be. Let's look at Demon Hunter on the surface. It's Illidan. When people wanted DKs, they wanted to be Arthas and they mostly got it. They could shoot ice, they could summon zombies, they could infect people with disease, they could drop death and decay, and they could turn their allies into zombies when they died(fuck them for taking the flavor out of this)
In this homogenized world of WoW, let's look at a demon hunter's place. I'm not talking ranged builds right now. I'm talking 'XIllidanX' who resubbed to play a demon hunter because it is definitely a pull I can see WoW doing to get people to buy the game. They need a mail wearing class. Illidan sure as fuck isn't wearing mail neither are any of the other Demon Hunter NPCs in WoW. That's going to be the first strike and have the potential to make the class feel super shoehorned in. All of the DK's shit wasn't on any other classes before they came out. Priests already had mana burn. Warlocks already have metamorphosis and evasion. Rogues have evasion
The Brewmaster and Mistweave are clever, unique playstyles in their role. The Windwalker, as someone who raided as one as my 'alt' because my main at the time was a rogue and did so because it was similar enough, just felt like a rogue. So is the demon hunter going to be yet another dual wielding, agi based energy/combo melee dps in its dps role? Or if they did make it mail, they're going to be a cooldown based, mana based, melee/ranged hybrid? do you want to tell all the Enhancement Shamans that or should I?
There's no place for it in the long run. The chance for a Demon Hunter existed before 'bring the player not the class' existed. That exists now. They don't fit in the current WoW environment.
In this homogenized world of WoW, let's look at a demon hunter's place. I'm not talking ranged builds right now. I'm talking 'XIllidanX' who resubbed to play a demon hunter because it is definitely a pull I can see WoW doing to get people to buy the game. They need a mail wearing class. Illidan sure as fuck isn't wearing mail neither are any of the other Demon Hunter NPCs in WoW. That's going to be the first strike and have the potential to make the class feel super shoehorned in. All of the DK's shit wasn't on any other classes before they came out. Priests already had mana burn. Warlocks already have metamorphosis and evasion. Rogues have evasion
The Brewmaster and Mistweave are clever, unique playstyles in their role. The Windwalker, as someone who raided as one as my 'alt' because my main at the time was a rogue and did so because it was similar enough, just felt like a rogue. So is the demon hunter going to be yet another dual wielding, agi based energy/combo melee dps in its dps role? Or if they did make it mail, they're going to be a cooldown based, mana based, melee/ranged hybrid? do you want to tell all the Enhancement Shamans that or should I?
There's no place for it in the long run. The chance for a Demon Hunter existed before 'bring the player not the class' existed. That exists now. They don't fit in the current WoW environment.
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And as for the next expansion talk, I just want Demon Hunters. That's all it will take to sell it to me. Just give us Demon Hunters already.
Shadow Hunters sound like a neat concept as well. I don't agree with them being a Horde only class though.
Only four days left till we find out.
Also, looking into Shadow Hunters led me to this old forum post.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
This is a pretty lame way of looking at it, imo. There is absolutely lore precedent for a skillset or type of magic originally unique to one race being taught to other races. I don't see why Shadow Hunter, demon hunter, or anything else would be any different.
It's a pretty reasonable conceit.
Still waiting for that gnome druid except their forms are sweet robots.
My 7 free days ran out, I didn't even realize it so I logged in and got a prompt telling me that I could pay like 25 thousand gold to get 30 days of game time.
So I did, and it worked instantly, no hassle or anything.
I know the token thing was implemented awhile back, but I wasn't expecting it to work so well.
I honestly didn't even realize I had that much gold, apparently I had enough left over to buy another 30 days.
Old news to you all I'm sure, but was an interesting surprise.
So I did, and it worked instantly, no hassle or anything.
I know the token thing was implemented awhile back, but I wasn't expecting it to work so well.
I honestly didn't even realize I had that much gold, apparently I had enough left over to buy another 30 days.
Old news to you all I'm sure, but was an interesting surprise.
When are Jungle Trolls ever going to sit down and share their secrets with the Gnomes of the world?
Also because we need something to seperate the two factions again. A slight tangent...
People can argue that Siege of Orgrimmar was Horde vs Alliance, but at the end of the day, nothing changed. One over the top leader was running rampage, and even the other members of the Horde just said yeah, this guy is bad news, lets get rid of him... Why?! I want Vol'jin to call upon the Shadow Hunters and use them against the Alliance. The dull king of Stormwind can do similar. Cities need to fall. Leaders need to die. Something. Needs. To. HAPPEN!
This expansion needs a huge focus on Horde vs Alliance, otherwise I'm just going to sell up and move on.
The token system is incredibly well implemented & designed. About the only thing in WoD they got right.
YOU WOT M8
If we didn't get Paladins I'd be still playing my shitty UD Priest that I leveled all the way to 60 with Vanilla Holy spec.
Blizzard wanted to even the sides (provides better balance if both sides have the same classes) and also introduced some badass lore with the Blood Elves.
Excellent point. They managed to make Brewmaster and Mistweaver their own thing when it comes to tanking and healing. They need to do the same for a class like Demon Hunter, should they choose to pursue it or don't bother. Don't give them Mail just to fill a niche, make them the 4th cloth class that actually makes sense going by what they wear (or realistically, what they don't wear). If anything, save that armor slot for a wholey unique class created from scratch that will surprise us.
Though, speaking of retreaded skills like Evasion, Mana Burn, Metamorphosis... Those kinds of things can be treated fairly easy in my mind. Back when Death Knights got released, all Warlocks' Death Coil spell became Mortal Coil and DKs' got a more lore-appropriate Death Coil. So, they can be tweaked as needed. Mana Burn, for instance, might be able to target more then just Mana. Evasion, maybe you could also evade spells. Metamorphosis, maybe call it something like "True Metaphorphosis" and make it a toggled transformation or something. Anything at all that would avoid feeling like just a Warlockish-Rogue/Monk.
But, in any case, it does need to feel expansion appropriate, when it comes to a new class. DKs = WotLK. Monks = Mists. It has to make sense, not just thrown together because of reasons. Maybe they'll find a better offering, something beyond the Demon Hunter as we know it, to give us. The Diablo series is a good reflection of this, what with their radically different class themes despite sharing the same name (a bit like the Monk or Wizard even).
Every class is already a healer to some extent. God forbid we have some sort of class diversity nowadays.
Same. I have terrible luck when asked to "pick" the zone. Vashj'ir and Borean "Boring" Tundnra...
Nooo, BT is one of my favorite zones.
Robin64
Member
It's pretty amazing how night and day Borean Tundra and Howling Fjord are. HF is, like, the perfect introduction to Northrend. Beautiful architecture, great landscapes, superb music.. You really feel as if you made it to a northern land. BT is just barren and crap.
Cool art anyway!
RPGCrazied
Member
Yay! At 7 am, I can't believe I just found the rare cat to tame!
So happy!
So happy!
RPGCrazied
Member
Done!
Can't believe it was this easy to get him tamed after a no show all day yesterday.Yes, I know that, that's part of the lament.
In happier news, here are some random pics of my solo run to Firelands. Love Blizzard art, big reason I can't get enough of this.
I tried to solo a raid in Mist (Heart of Fear) but I was annihilated. Embarrassingly enough, I am also unable to solo Blackwing Lair, I have no idea how people managed to complete Razorgore fight back in the day.
legit! lol
RPGCrazied
Member
Oh thank you lord of the transmog, I needed to hear of your insight.
Is this real???
Do wonder why people bother.
This is something I can get behind.
Is this real???
Do wonder why people bother.
Totally is, duh!!
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
November release confirmed. Thanks a lot, Robin.