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World of Warcraft |OT9| People still play this? Isn't it from 2004

can someone explain to me what that means. will there a passive talent that increases int by 10% or how does this work?

When you go into PvP, you have a 'set' of stats that are static across your class/spec that everyone else of that spec/class shares. So basically that static base is increased, it's not a physical buff.
 
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It's been a long time since I've been really one shot.
 

Skeletos311

Junior Member
I finally got a Torn Invitation for the fox after doing Nightfallen stuff on multiple characters for months. Got it in the Emissary chest. I'm so done with withered training. I might even quit doing Suramar world quests completely.

I also did the corrupted Ashbringer line. What a pita. At least it's not from drops from Neltharion's Lair and Vault of the Wardens, though. I still have to do that on my Rogue for the Thunderfury swords.
 

Robin64

Member
I finally got a Torn Invitation for the fox after doing Nightfallen stuff on multiple characters for months. Got it in the Emissary chest. I'm so done with withered training. I might even quit doing Suramar world quests completely.

I was so done with Suramar world quests, had full Exalted rep and everything I wanted. Then the new 7.1 Suramar questline last week ended with "Complete 10 Suramar world quests". fffff
 

Lain

Member
I hit exalted with the nightfallen yesterday. It surprised me that nightfallen was my first legion rep to exalted, I would have expected one of the others to be the first.
 
Had a discussion in discord, joking around about new specs for some classes. Change survival back to well... survival and make melee a new spec.

Honestly I would love to see a DPS spellcaster spec for Paladin. Yes Priests have disc but I want a caster spec that's all about DPS and healing isn't a focus (Like elemental can heal...but that's not their job in any capacity).
 

Mupod

Member
Here's hoping the pattern holds and NA gets sanguine/overflowing this week. I could use a +12 clear.

Do you actually get the artifact appearance if you clear a +15 or does it require finishing the raid questline (which ends in nighthold) for the 'base' version of that appearance? Nevermind how stupid it is to lock the ultimate 5 man accomplishment reward behind a raid, but that would determine how hard we try to get a +15 done in the near future.
 

Lain

Member
These Kirin Tor World Quests where you gotta fly in the sky are quite problematic. If you are falling down it's supposed to warp you back and yet sometimes you don't get warped back which means death. Doubly problematic when the quest is at the top of the Moon Guard fort, because the trek back through all the guards is pretty annoying (and I'm playing as tank, I can only imagine the annoyance for non tanks because of the dismounting).
 

Milennia

Member
Here's hoping the pattern holds and NA gets sanguine/overflowing this week. I could use a +12 clear.

Do you actually get the artifact appearance if you clear a +15 or does it require finishing the raid questline (which ends in nighthold) for the 'base' version of that appearance? Nevermind how stupid it is to lock the ultimate 5 man accomplishment reward behind a raid, but that would determine how hard we try to get a +15 done in the near future.

Requires nighthold
 

Entropia

No One Remembers
Had a discussion in discord, joking around about new specs for some classes. Change survival back to well... survival and make melee a new spec.

Honestly I would love to see a DPS spellcaster spec for Paladin. Yes Priests have disc but I want a caster spec that's all about DPS and healing isn't a focus (Like elemental can heal...but that's not their job in any capacity).

Paladin Spellbreaker ;)
 

Tarazet

Member
I hit exalted with the nightfallen yesterday. It surprised me that nightfallen was my first legion rep to exalted, I would have expected one of the others to be the first.

I finally got exalted with my last faction a couple days ago.. it was Court of Farondis. I had exalted with Nightfallen over a month ago. For as stingy as they are with rep, Suramar gets pushed on you pretty hard so it becomes a natural focus point.
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
I was so done with Suramar world quests, had full Exalted rep and everything I wanted. Then the new 7.1 Suramar questline last week ended with "Complete 10 Suramar world quests". fffff

What's so bad with the WQs? I mean it's mostly just delivering arcwine, making arcwine and killing a few elves, demons or moths. You just have to ignore the ones in the eastern wing of the city.
 

Mupod

Member
I just noticed that Wowhead posts current mythic+ affixes on their 'today in broken isles' thing. But I'm hoping it's inaccurate because it's saying bolstering/skittish for NA. The past few weeks NA has been following EU and I was really looking forward to sanguine/overflowing because it'd be ezmode for my group.

Also god dammit another week and no Soultakers world boss.
 

Anoregon

The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Also god dammit another week and no Soultakers world boss.

I believe he (Humongris) drops the enhance shaman hidden appearance though, which is nice for those of us who couldn't get it last time due to the hotfix going up in the middle of the week.

Edit: nevermind, he isn't dropping it according to reports.
 

Entropia

No One Remembers
I believe he (Humongris) drops the enhance shaman hidden appearance though, which is nice for those of us who couldn't get it last time due to the hotfix going up in the middle of the week.

Edit: nevermind, he isn't dropping it according to reports.

The Enh appearance was from the boss 2 weeks ago.
 

erawsd

Member
I believe he (Humongris) drops the enhance shaman hidden appearance though, which is nice for those of us who couldn't get it last time due to the hotfix going up in the middle of the week.

Edit: nevermind, he isn't dropping it according to reports.

Try submitting a ticket for Flotsam and referencing ticket #57750127. I saw others doing that successfully so I gave it a shot and a GM mail it to me a day later. He even wrote a story about a Goblin who traveled back in time to get it for me.
 

Magnus

Member
Well then, it's been a good couple of days. Got my second legendary last week, and today, both legendaries went up to 910 with the patch. Then, the world boss dropped an 870 for me, and a second 870 on the bonus roll.

I'm up to 866 average. Fucking PUGs better listen up now when I apply. lol.
 

Jag

Member
Confused about Withered Training rewards. Is max reward score at 375, 400, or 425?

IIRC max rep at 375 score.

Well then, it's been a good couple of days. Got my second legendary last week, and today, both legendaries went up to 910 with the patch. Then, the world boss dropped an 870 for me, and a second 870 on the bonus roll.

I'm up to 866 average. Fucking PUGs better listen up now when I apply. lol.

LFM. 867 and up only.
 

Anoregon

The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Try submitting a ticket for Flotsam and referencing ticket #57750127. I saw others doing that successfully so I gave it a shot and a GM mail it to me a day later. He even wrote a story about a Goblin who traveled back in time to get it for me.

Yeah I just put in a ticket actually, saw people posting about successful tickets granting the item.
 

M.D

Member
Well then, it's been a good couple of days. Got my second legendary last week, and today, both legendaries went up to 910 with the patch. Then, the world boss dropped an 870 for me, and a second 870 on the bonus roll.

I'm up to 866 average. Fucking PUGs better listen up now when I apply. lol.
I'm a 873 Rogue (878 when I actually apply cause it shows your highest item level possible iirc?) and I still get declined for even 2/3 a lot of times.
 
These Kirin Tor World Quests where you gotta fly in the sky are quite problematic. If you are falling down it's supposed to warp you back and yet sometimes you don't get warped back which means death. Doubly problematic when the quest is at the top of the Moon Guard fort, because the trek back through all the guards is pretty annoying (and I'm playing as tank, I can only imagine the annoyance for non tanks because of the dismounting).

Is this a good time to mention that you don't need to enter the fort at all to reach that Kirin Tor quest? You can just traipse up the path on the hill next to the bridge. Assuming we're talking about the same one, that is.

People also really love spending 45 minutes in the Falanaar caves for the withered quest when it takes five minutes to do on the surface.
 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
I'm a 873 Rogue (878 when I actually apply cause it shows your highest item level possible iirc?) and I still get declined for even 2/3 a lot of times.

Yeah this system also favors people who have been lucky. If you have 3-5 legendaries right now you are automatically going to have pretty obscene in bags ilevel right now, and it's going to be fake as fuck. Someone with 4 legs can apply to your group lookin like an 885 ilevel player while his equipped gear is actually 865-870. Gotta download that mod that displays ilevel on char inspect now.
 

Mupod

Member
so is NA mythic+ really bolstering/skittish this week? I was so sure we would get overflowing/sanguine that I told my group to expect it.

I think my last 3 mythic caches were bracers. Not even good ones. I'm just saving up my luck for an 880 Chrono Shard...

Yeah this system also favors people who have been lucky. If you have 3-5 legendaries right now you are automatically going to have pretty obscene in bags ilevel right now, and it's going to be fake as fuck. Someone with 4 legs can apply to your group lookin like an 885 ilevel player while his equipped gear is actually 865-870. Gotta download that mod that displays ilevel on char inspect now.

haha yeah I have 3 legendaries for different slots and I had 880 in bags before today. I never pug anyways though so it's wasted on me.
 

Teletraan1

Banned
Doesn't make it any less dumb for a resto druid to get gear with avoidance the last 3 emissary chests and out of 5 characters, 3 which are tanks I have never seen avoidance roll on anything but that character and loot spec. Literally Hundreds of pieces of gear.
 

LAUGHTREY

Modesty becomes a woman
Doesn't make it any less dumb for a resto druid to get gear with avoidance the last 3 emissary chests and out of 5 characters, 3 which are tanks I have never seen avoidance roll on anything but that character and loot spec. Literally Hundreds of pieces of gear.

Do you never take damage by anything? Avoidance isn't a tank stat, it's an everyone stat.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
Hopefully, moving forward, all relics have really good traits.

It's kinda shit getting a huge relic upgrade but having it have a shit trait.
 

Xeteh

Member
Apparently this Sea Giant world boss isn't one of the Sea Giant world bosses that drop the hidden artifact for Shamans. That hotfix makes me sad.

Doesn't make it any less dumb for a resto druid to get gear with avoidance the last 3 emissary chests and out of 5 characters, 3 which are tanks I have never seen avoidance roll on anything but that character and loot spec. Literally Hundreds of pieces of gear.

Avoidance reduces damage from AoE, doesn't it? Its good for any class.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Apparently this Sea Giant world boss isn't one of the Sea Giant world bosses that drop the hidden artifact for Shamans. That hotfix makes me sad.



Avoidance reduces damage from AoE, doesn't it? Its good for any class.
I thought all the world bosses had a chance to drop it
 

Entropia

No One Remembers
Hmmm, weird, the legendary items are still 895.

Apparently you have to delete your cache and then re-equip the item after you log back in or some fuckery.

Not sure why it doesn't automatically show as 910 with the new stats after server maintenance.
 

v1perz53

Member
Here's hoping the pattern holds and NA gets sanguine/overflowing this week. I could use a +12 clear.

Do you actually get the artifact appearance if you clear a +15 or does it require finishing the raid questline (which ends in nighthold) for the 'base' version of that appearance? Nevermind how stupid it is to lock the ultimate 5 man accomplishment reward behind a raid, but that would determine how hard we try to get a +15 done in the near future.

Mythic+ affixes follow a set list, here's a link to a chart of them in order: http://i.imgur.com/dPJH3nd.jpg so last week was Raging/Volcanic/Tyrannical, this week is Bolstering/Skittish/Fortified (aka fuck my life). If there's one thing I want almost less than Necrotic it is Skittish, pair that with Fortified... I just don't see a counter-play for skittish unless I'm missing something (use an all ranged group doesn't count...), I'll just be tanking a pack, 3 mobs will randomly drop aggro, instantly turn and kill our Monk. No indication of when it will happen for him to move out, no delay between aggro drop and them hitting him.

Also yea, you need the Nighthold base acheiv to unlock the +15 clear skin. Presumably, at least, since no one has the Nighthold one yet, but also people who've done +15s haven't unlocked that version of the skin. One of the things that annoy me greatly, since as you said +15 is the ultimate 5 man challenge right now but you aren't rewarded the cosmetic reward for it unless... you do normal raids for a long time...

Doesn't make it any less dumb for a resto druid to get gear with avoidance the last 3 emissary chests and out of 5 characters, 3 which are tanks I have never seen avoidance roll on anything but that character and loot spec. Literally Hundreds of pieces of gear.

Avoidance doesn't replace real stats, a crit/haste item and a crit/haste/avoidance item would have identical amount of crit/haste, the avoidance one just also lowers damage you take from AoE attacks. Speed/leech/avoidance/indestructible are just bonus stats for fun, they show up very rarely typically and are all a nice addition for every spec. This game is chock full of unavoidable AoE attacks, avoidance is a pretty awesome stat to have.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Now, Leech. That would be very pointless for healing.

I hear Speed's all but worthless unless you somehow manage to get it on all your gear?

But yeah Avoidance is pretty great on anyone. It's like a narrower Versatility but less damage intake is less damage intake.
 

Khezu

Member
Looking at how Warlocks are right now, I don't think they can really fix that class with out a straight up new expansion.

I don't care how viable they are, or how easy it is to blow up someone with a Chaos Bolt, they are just not fun to play.
 

Anoregon

The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
7.1.5 PTR going up today, notes just started popping up on mmochamp

Cross your fingers for your favorite specs!
 

Lain

Member
Is this a good time to mention that you don't need to enter the fort at all to reach that Kirin Tor quest? You can just traipse up the path on the hill next to the bridge. Assuming we're talking about the same one, that is.

People also really love spending 45 minutes in the Falanaar caves for the withered quest when it takes five minutes to do on the surface.

It's always a good time to mention possible shortcuts. I'm gonna go look.
 

Mupod

Member
Mythic+ affixes follow a set list, here's a link to a chart of them in order: http://i.imgur.com/dPJH3nd.jpg so last week was Raging/Volcanic/Tyrannical, this week is Bolstering/Skittish/Fortified (aka fuck my life). If there's one thing I want almost less than Necrotic it is Skittish, pair that with Fortified... I just don't see a counter-play for skittish unless I'm missing something (use an all ranged group doesn't count...), I'll just be tanking a pack, 3 mobs will randomly drop aggro, instantly turn and kill our Monk. No indication of when it will happen for him to move out, no delay between aggro drop and them hitting him.

Also yea, you need the Nighthold base acheiv to unlock the +15 clear skin. Presumably, at least, since no one has the Nighthold one yet, but also people who've done +15s haven't unlocked that version of the skin. One of the things that annoy me greatly, since as you said +15 is the ultimate 5 man challenge right now but you aren't rewarded the cosmetic reward for it unless... you do normal raids for a long time...

Oh so I was 1 week off on my sanguine/overflowing expectation.

Yeah this week is kinda shit. I rely on kiting a lot to survive high Bolstering stacks, and you can't kite with Skittish. We run melee heavy as well. Even though I probably have some of the highest DPS/aggro generation of any tank, the fact that Skittish can just randomly drop is very annoying. I should be okay to facetank most +10 fortified trash pulls at least but Bolstering will make this rough.

But hey, look at it this way, at least skittish/necrotic can't exist.
 
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