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World of Warcraft |OT9| People still play this? Isn't it from 2004

Is Mage Frost viable for leveling? Will it be better in 7.1.5?

My Fire Mage alt is at 103 but hits like a wet noodle. Takes forever to kill a single mob. Doesn't help, that I've leveled 4 Tanks already so switching to a squishy class (her name is actually Squish) is so much slower.

Frost is better than Fire if only because Fire is really second stat dependent. Glacial Spike also does huge damage and always roots when a target is rootable so it would help with levelling.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Frost takes a while to kill stuff too, but I leveled as Frost and the control you have over engagement is better than Fire's frantic hitting of buttons until they die.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
everything just melts as a mage when leveling, I never even thought about it

my mage killed shit quicker and was tankier than my elemental shaman.
 

v1perz53

Member
everything just melts as a mage when leveling, I never even thought about it

my mage killed shit quicker and was tankier than my elemental shaman.

Well that isn't really saying much since I'm fairly confident Ele Sham is the squishiest spec in the game right now for anything solo! Levelling my ele was a shocker since I had come from Guardian druid, which was "moonfire 10-15 mobs and AoE them down", whereas ele was "if you pull 3 better hope you have a defensive". Enh was squishy as well, but at least those instant heals helped a bit. Tried swapping to ele from resto at ~840 ilvl to do a Warden's Tower WQ quicker, and a 3 pull would absolutely wreck me as ele. Maybe it gets better with some defensive artifact traits but I can't imagine it ever becomes sturdy without Earth Ele up or something.

Mage was pretty quick for me, but I had to be more conservative with my pulls so it still felt slow. Anything would after tank levelling though, a 10 kill quest is literally one pull.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Can't say I was very impressed with mage leveling. Doesn't really seem that different to Ele.
 
Battle.net down for anyone else or just me?

Tried out tanking on my Paladin, actually had a lot of fun with it. Seemed pretty straightforward to keep aggro. I realized this was the first time I tanked and I've been playing WoW since vanilla...

Though when I see healers getting low on HP I panick, even though I usually face them (boss' back to them)
 

Mupod

Member
The best part about leveling as a tank was getting aggro on every mob in a 3 mile radius and kiting it to a lone mage. I always felt like I was making their day.

Battle.net down for anyone else or just me?

Tried out tanking on my Paladin, actually had a lot of fun with it. Seemed pretty straightforward to keep aggro. I realized this was the first time I tanked and I've been playing WoW since vanilla...

Though when I see healers getting low on HP I panick, even though I usually face them (boss' back to them)

Nightbane requires party members to occasionally drop to low hp as a mechanic (your debuff does your total hp as party damage). Even though I know what's happening I still freak out involuntarily.

Also, when Havoc Demon Hunters turn into their demon form their profile image mostly just looks completely dark from the corner of my eye. So I think they just died and start going into 'oh fuck gotta battle rez where is their corpse' mode.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
The best part about leveling as a tank was getting aggro on every mob in a 3 mile radius and kiting it to a lone mage. I always felt like I was making their day.

Whenever I'm doing Suramar quests on my DH I usually get a train of DPS who burn down all the stuff I tag and pull.

Feels good man
 
Trying to decide which of my alts I'd like to make my main alt...I play a priest so I rolled a Dk and pally to 110 to try something different. I'd like to give tanking a try, but I'm not sure which is more friendly to players new to tanking. Also I really like the frost DK style and having frostmourne 2.0 is awesome, BUT pallies get ashbringer. I did try both in dungeons but ret felt underwhelming?
 

v1perz53

Member
Nightbane requires party members to occasionally drop to low hp as a mechanic (your debuff does your total hp as party damage). Even though I know what's happening I still freak out involuntarily.

That Nightbane debuff... worst is when one of my DPS gets it and purposefully moves behind for a tail swipe, but I don't realize and have a moment of "oh god why is he tail swiping did I fuck up the positioning?". That fight is so brutal for healers, don't heal debuff in P1 and P3, heal debuff a lot in P2, don't disspel right away for less skeletons, pay attention to whether Nightbane has the group wide shit or tank shit, move constantly, try to DPS add in P2 to get to P3 with less stacks... So much to juggle. I ended up just telling our healer to disspel the debuff instantly and I would mini-kite the skeletons to avoid the tank debuff so that he had one less thing to keep track of. Really awesome fight though, first 5 man fight in a long while to feel challenging and rewarding for the right reasons (Tyrannical Mythic+ bosses are certainly hard, but generally for all the wrong and poorly scaling reasons).
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
we just cant kill curator for whtever reason, which is super annoying because we killed the other bosses after him back when you could bug it out and skip the first half
 

mclem

Member
NeoGAF Confession: I kept dying during last night's raid because I made it home with about 2 minutes to spare, and was eating some leftover chicken with my hands like an animal. Didn't wanna grease up my keyboard, so I was doing everything one-handed.

Performance significantly improved after the first two fights.

Never raid hungry is my first rule of WoW. Do what you gotta do.


One time, on Terrace of Endless Spring, I'd sat out of the raid due to necessity for numbers; someone else was tanking. However, I stayed in touch, and one of the tanks had to drop on Sha, so I was called in to take over.

Unfortunately, on the assumption of not being needed, I had put some pizza in the oven. And after returning from one of the side platforms for the first time, I realised it needed to come out.

So... through one sha tanking phase I cranked up the CDs, ran downstairs, served up the pizza, ran back, and took over tanking. No problem!
 

mclem

Member
Though when I see healers getting low on HP I panick, even though I usually face them (boss' back to them)

As a paladin tank, don't knock the Hand of the Protector talent; being able to spot-heal others in an emergency is great (and while it's not clear from the talent, it also has a shorter cooldown than Light of the Protector). I also quite frequently use Lay On Hands on others over myself.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Did my first Ashran. Pretty crazy.

Is this good for Honor farming?
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
I should've bought a fuck ton when they were 17k a pop back when they were first introduced, I've got a shit ton of gold that's going to waste on my old server.
 

Lomax

Member
OMG you werent kidding, the game time coin go up to 54k gold, nop nop nop nop

At the current rate I expect it will be 100k+ in NA whenever they change it to battle.net credit. I really wish the number you can buy wasn't so restricted right now.

I should've bought a fuck ton when they were 17k a pop back when they were first introduced, I've got a shit ton of gold that's going to waste on my old server.

They were 30k each as recently as early August. But you're limited to buying 36 total in a 24 month period anyway, and you can only hold 10, so there's really only so much you could have done. But if you're not capped now you should just go ahead and buy because it really doesn't seem likely they will go down again (beyond normal up and down movement during the day).
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
OMG you werent kidding, the game time coin go up to 54k gold, nop nop nop nop

98k in my server, I know because my sub was lapsed earlier and it asked if I wanted to buy with gold >_>
 

Ark

Member
DPS wise Dragons aren't that tough, but there's a shitton of more stuff going on. We did Dragons first and then Ursoc keeled over in a couple dozen tries.

Ursoc is a gigantic gear-check.

Dragons isn't stringent (Berserk timer) and just takes coordination. It's an easy fight. Swap dragons at 7 stacks, make sure your portal group is on-point, stand in flowers, kill adds.

We'll more than likely hit Dragon's first and just see how things go from there. Although we've just lost our best Spriest for over a month since he needs to focus on Uni and work :(
 
Are there any add-ons or sites that let you search battle pets by move?

Like say I needed a magic type with a mechanical ability (I know Broom exists just an example)
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
So, turns out the people who got banned for exploiting the AP bug kept all the AP bug.

Note to self: exploit the next AP bug cus you'll only get a one day ban but keep millions of AP.
 

Dmax3901

Member
From what I can tell, Australia uses the US version of the game, so a cd key for Legion bought in the US would theoretically be useable by us in Australia...

If that's right, is there any kind soul from the states who could buy me a key and I'll paypal them?
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
Getting mythic cenarius to about 55-ish percent and then the wisps come out and everything goes to shit. Those things do an insane amount of damage.
 

Strimei

Member
I'm getting around to playing my BM hunter alt and bwuuugh, I still hate how it plays. Hati seems finicky when it comes to attacking, like it seems I gotta actually hit the attack button for him to recognize that yes, the target my primary pet is attacking, and in fact I am currently shooting, is supposed to be fought, get away from my side and get in there you dumb mutt.

Gotta get to 102 and then maybe see if MM or survival clicks for me. I don't like the idea of shelving this alt but ugh.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
While leveling my Demon Hunter I really can't help but think how much better the class would have been with a ranged bow/crossbow spec. I don't think MM really fulfills the fantasy of pet-less ranged and the fact that every other ranged dps class is a caster than hunter is a real bummer.
 

cdyhybrid

Member
While leveling my Demon Hunter I really can't help but think how much better the class would have been with a ranged bow/crossbow spec. I don't think MM really fulfills the fantasy of pet-less ranged and the fact that every other ranged dps class is a caster than hunter is a real bummer.

MM is a lot closer to the Hunter fantasy than a ranged spec would be for DHs :p

Sylvanas is a MM Hunter, after all.
 

Khezu

Member
I don't even know what the class fantasy for Marksman is even supposed to be anymore.

Most of there damage comes from shooting snakes at people.

Snakes.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
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Yea I'm definitely enjoying tanking on my Pally. It also helps that I feel Ashbringer's talent Wake to Ashes is....so fucking bad imo. Leveled my Pally from 1 - 105 in 2.5 days /played.

MM is a lot closer to the Hunter fantasy than a ranged spec would be for DHs :p

Sylvanas is a MM Hunter, after all.

She's totally a dark ranger man.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
I don't even know what the class fantasy for Marksman is even supposed to be anymore.

Most of there damage comes from shooting snakes at people.

Snakes.

Still better than the class fantasy of being the not really lore important vyrkul errand boy
 

v1perz53

Member
Yea I'm definitely enjoying tanking on my Pally. It also helps that I feel Ashbringer's talent Wake to Ashes is....so fucking bad imo. Leveled my Pally from 1 - 105 in 2.5 days /played.



She's totally a dark ranger man.

Wake of Ashes goes from complete trash to one of the best Artifact Abilities in game once you get the gold trait Ashes to Ashes. Having it generate 5 Holy Power on use is so damn amazing with how Ret plays with Crusade. It is such a good gold that the current suggestion is to run straight for it first taking a bunch of trash traits, save up like 60k AP, then RESET your artifact to go back to it taking DPS increase traits. It is so good that the optimal artifact levelling path includes a reset...

But yea, prot is also fun, but can be REALLY squishy in mythic+ if played poorly, I had to heal 220k HPS to keep an 850 ilvl prot pal up on the first boss of a +2 HoV, no one else in the group was taking any damage. Make sure to use that LotP well in group content, it helps a lot!

Still better than the class fantasy of being the not really lore important vyrkul errand boy

At least the Vykrul and Odyn/Hodir/Thorm etc existed before legion... Hunter people are like "hey we totally always existed in secret and we're awesome! Join/lead our order!"
 

Khezu

Member
The Hunter order Hall should have just been you and Rexxar chilling in a tent somewhere.

In fact, you should be able to set the tent up anywhere and Rexxar will just drop on by and be a useless piece of shit all day.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
I'm still annoyed that there wasn't a secret passage under the priest class hall with an old god and people speaking in tongues. Instead I just get a dumb pointless void room. Of course, that matches up with the attention they pay to Shadow in the Priest Class Hall. Which is that there's a crazy gnome and that's it.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
Hey Blizzard, can we stop with these tiny ass cloaks?

This could look so cool if it was a normal cloak but I'll never use this bib looking thing.

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