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World of Warcraft |OT9| People still play this? Isn't it from 2004

Lain

Member
sooo, looks like the catchup AK mechanic will go to lvl 15 in AK for 500 per note....thats actually insane...you could switch alts pretty comfortably at that lvl.

That's nice, though I'd also wish they'd let you start working on AK from 101 instead of 110, or at least right after getting all 3 Artifact weapons at 102.

Honestly, AK should just be account bound.

It would be nice, though I can understand why they'd rather not, at least from a class-restricted pov.
 

v1perz53

Member
Bleh after a night of Mythic+ I've started to really dislike bolstering. Super punishing if you accidentally aggro a new group when the current one is nearly dead, and also quite punishing in certain zones with a bunch of low HP enemies mixed in with one high HP guy. Just really slows down the way you have to run things. And I still don't really see a good counter play for skittish with a melee heavy group, but at least it isn't necrotic...
 

Won

Member
Honestly, AK should just be account bound.

At this point Blizzard should just embrace it and make everything account bound. Especially if they insist that certain game elements are supposed to take longer than a month.

The game and the topic of alts will always in a weird spot until then.
 
the worst is when you get the artifact power item that is account bound but doesnt scale at all so it's always 100 artifact power. Like why even have that in the game
 

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Teletraan1

Banned
I think they don't want you to have a bunch of alts hence not making things account bound. They probably pushed the alts are tough mantra at the beginning of this expansion on their youtube cronies to scare people off. A bunch of alts and you could have easily just ran world bosses and emissary chests on all of them for the month and collected the gold reward to pay for your sub in NA. Notice how the gold reward have dropped ~200G since last week in addition to reduced gold in emissary chests etc. Expect this to drop even further as they introduce more ways for people to easily get alts up to speed. I haven't even sold anything on the AH since the blood vendor and I have collected more than enough gold (probably 2x what I need) on 5 different characters from all these sources to pay for a token even at elevated prices. Those tokens are actively altering game design and philosophy. Glad I don't pay with real money lol.
 
I think they don't want you to have a bunch of alts hence not making things account bound. They probably pushed the alts are tough mantra at the beginning of this expansion on their youtube cronies to scare people off. A bunch of alts and you could have easily just ran world bosses and emissary chests on all of them for the month and collected the gold reward to pay for your sub in NA. Notice how the gold reward have dropped ~200G since last week in addition to reduced gold in emissary chests etc. Expect this to drop even further as they introduce more ways for people to easily get alts up to speed. I haven't even sold anything on the AH since the blood vendor and I have collected more than enough gold (probably 2x what I need) on 5 different characters from all these sources to pay for a token even at elevated prices. Those tokens are actively altering game design and philosophy. Glad I don't pay with real money lol.

The average player is never gonna afford tokens

Levelling alts is also time consuming

And even then the price will correct itself. When the xpac started tokes were at like 17k, now theyre 60k on my server. I think tokens were the least of their worries. But its never been easier to make gold as an average player, and its been like that since Draenor.
 

Moff

Member
Pugged a 10 yesterday.
Probably one of the worst decisions of my life.
I pugged an 11 and it was a lot of fun, super chill group, took us 3 hours but we made it

Other times I pugged 8s or 9s and people left before the first boss
 

Son1x

Member
I'd probably buy tokens ingame if I were in NA. But 90k+ gold for a month? No thx.

edit: To be honest, €13 is not really a lot so I don't mind paying monthly.
 

Lomax

Member
I think they don't want you to have a bunch of alts hence not making things account bound. They probably pushed the alts are tough mantra at the beginning of this expansion on their youtube cronies to scare people off. A bunch of alts and you could have easily just ran world bosses and emissary chests on all of them for the month and collected the gold reward to pay for your sub in NA. Notice how the gold reward have dropped ~200G since last week in addition to reduced gold in emissary chests etc. Expect this to drop even further as they introduce more ways for people to easily get alts up to speed. I haven't even sold anything on the AH since the blood vendor and I have collected more than enough gold (probably 2x what I need) on 5 different characters from all these sources to pay for a token even at elevated prices. Those tokens are actively altering game design and philosophy. Glad I don't pay with real money lol.

That's foolish, people want and have alts that they play. I don't think Blizzard believes it's better for people to not play alts. Also the token market is self regulating, inflation doesn't really impact it. Blizzard always acts to try to reduce gold inflation in general. And if anything, people with more alts always have less gold because they aren't spending time farming gold. So no, I see no reason to believe at all that the token influences design in the ways you are describing.

The realty is, treating people like they have accounts instead of like every character is independent is better in every possible way. It encourages engagement and motivates people to play in a wider variety of ways. Blizzard has taken many good steps in that direction over the years, which just makes the places they don't stand out all the more. We'd need fewer "catch up" and "bad luck protection" things built into the game if they would just approach things from the account level across the board.

The first legendary on my ret paladin is the necklace Prydaz.

Are you shitting me? :(

Yup, exactly the same thing happened to me last night. I guess the bubble is kinda useful for soloing. Or something. But hey, stories!
 
Excited to be tanking my first Kara tonight (Demon Hunter)... can anyone recommend some good videos to prepare a bit, trash, boss strats, etc? Fatboss seems to have PTR material, not sure if has changed or not. I have not done the new Kara at all, so this will be the first time I've stepped into it since TBC.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Excited to be tanking my first Kara tonight (Demon Hunter)... can anyone recommend some good videos to prepare a bit, trash, boss strats, etc? Fatboss seems to have PTR material, not sure if has changed or not. I have not done the new Kara at all, so this will be the first time I've stepped into it since TBC.

PTR material is usually fine. Kara isn't overly complicated mechanics wise.
 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
Well my WoW PvE fire kinda just died in the last couple days. Found myself more and more bored and annoyed logging in for dailies/dungeons/raids. Legion PvE was fun while it lasted for me, but I think a big turn off was the complete RNG legendary system with only 1-2 out of 8 being the godlike DPS ones that made your class/spec a lot more fun and awesome to play, overall. Just kinda over chasing that carrot while grinding out the same content.

Still going to PvP though I think.
 
Well my WoW PvE fire kinda just died in the last couple days. Found myself more and more bored and annoyed logging in for dailies/dungeons/raids. Legion PvE was fun while it lasted for me, but I think a big turn off was the complete RNG legendary system with only 1-2 out of 8 being the godlike DPS ones that made your class/spec a lot more fun and awesome to play, overall. Just kinda over chasing that carrot while grinding out the same content.

Still going to PvP though I think.

Healing monks are kinda screwed in a blind bingo where only 2 of 6 legendaries are actually useful for them
 
Well my WoW PvE fire kinda just died in the last couple days. Found myself more and more bored and annoyed logging in for dailies/dungeons/raids. Legion PvE was fun while it lasted for me, but I think a big turn off was the complete RNG legendary system with only 1-2 out of 8 being the godlike DPS ones that made your class/spec a lot more fun and awesome to play, overall. Just kinda over chasing that carrot while grinding out the same content.

Still going to PvP though I think.

I got to the same point earlier this week. It finally hit me clearing EN for nth time and running Maw/Thicket/EoA +X again. The game was starting to feel like an obligation, and not a particularly rewarding one. I'm tired of just doing the same stuff over and over, hoping to get a 2nd legendary (that isn't terrible) so that I can keep up with my guild mates just so that we can do the same raid/dungeon/etc, only slightly harder this time.

While I did have a great deal of fun with my time back in WoW for Legion (I hadn't played seriously since WotLK) and met some great folks in my new guild, the end-game just isn't doing it for me anymore. Let my guildies know that I'm taking a break. Might come back in a few months if the itch returns. It was kind of a sad feeling coming to this realization. Like running back into an ex, thinking that there is still something there, and realizing that you've both changed.
 

M.D

Member
I pugged an 11 and it was a lot of fun, super chill group, took us 3 hours but we made it

Other times I pugged 8s or 9s and people left before the first boss

Everyone was acting fine in that particular one I mentioned, it's just that it took an hour and a half and we wiped soooo many times on literally every single trash mob and I felt so bad because I made a mistake taking a wrong and was doing 100k less total damage than I usually do (crazy, I know) and I was on tilt the entire time and constantly made mistakes because in my mind I just wanted to get the hell outta there.

Did pug a +9 EoA today and it was completely fine and we managed to upgrade it to HoV 10 (fuck that noise lol)

Well my WoW PvE fire kinda just died in the last couple days. Found myself more and more bored and annoyed logging in for dailies/dungeons/raids. Legion PvE was fun while it lasted for me, but I think a big turn off was the complete RNG legendary system with only 1-2 out of 8 being the godlike DPS ones that made your class/spec a lot more fun and awesome to play, overall. Just kinda over chasing that carrot while grinding out the same content.

Still going to PvP though I think.

I am feeling the same way about PvE.

We had a group of 5 people who would do mythic+ for majority of the week, it was fun as hell getting new affixes, finding new ways we could cut down on time and climbing up the levels. One of us has real life obligations and the other I have no idea why he hasn't logged in, so it kinda fell apart.

I'm still doing mythic plus with a few of them from time to time and pug high levels, but even as a group we kinda hit a wall where we could do a +10 but we didn't manage to do it in time (although we didn't do the last 2 with mains on everyone so it was kinda low on the odds of completing in time anyways) and as far as raiding goes, our guild is never going to do mythic as it currently stands so I am limited on that front as well. TBH, I just didn't go into normal ToV a few days ago even tho I missed the Helya kill the first time and I simply don't care.

All of this is also affected by how I have zero fate in Blizzard fixing Outlaw, and I don't think I have it in me to start over completely with a new class. At least not until they implement buying AK with order resources like they recently said.
 

Strimei

Member
Nice that the mobs from the Vrekt mobs (Helya version, not Naga) can drop the valarjar souls but yeah don't see myself farming 800 more here...
 

Strimei

Member
Eh? Which mobs?

Unlock the Helarjar world quests, there's one up (far as I'm aware) for a few days each time. Right now its at Vrekt (the landing on the southern side of the mountain where the Halls of Valor are, right across from that warden tower there). Normally its Naga there but its mist covered and there are Helarjar mobs there instead to kill. Need 10 and a named elite, but you can kill the humanoid Vrykul for the valarjar souls to drop. Its not a guaranteed drop from them, but it seems halfway decent, though again it seems to be approximately 1 per mob (though, saying that, I did seem to get 5 from a group of 3 so maybe not?).

So you could conceivably farm it there.

The one from a few days ago, with the Vision of Helya in northern Highmountain, rewarded about 20 or so when completed, too. So its worthwhile to do them, a bit.
 
Unlock the Helarjar world quests, there's one up (far as I'm aware) for a few days each time. Right now its at Vrekt (the landing on the southern side of the mountain where the Halls of Valor are, right across from that warden tower there). Normally its Naga there but its mist covered and there are Helarjar mobs there instead to kill. Need 10 and a named elite, but you can kill the humanoid Vrykul for the valarjar souls to drop. Its not a guaranteed drop from them, but it seems halfway decent, though again it seems to be approximately 1 per mob (though, saying that, I did seem to get 5 from a group of 3 so maybe not?).

So you could conceivably farm it there.

The one from a few days ago, with the Vision of Helya in northern Highmountain, rewarded about 20 or so when completed, too. So its worthwhile to do them, a bit.

Huh, which questline do you need? Im pretty sure I did the Helya questline...
 

Strimei

Member
Huh, which questline do you need? Im pretty sure I did the Helya questline...

One of Odyn's crows is at Krasus's landing (by where the Hunters' giant eagle is, if you know it), with a quest to go speak to Odyn again. He has you go down into the basin below Valdisdal, you kill some mobs, see a Stormforged get corrupted, go back to Odyn who shouts in anger, and then gives you a quest to go to the Trials of Valor. At that point you have the world quests unlocked.

I'll post a picture of the location in a moment.
 
One of Odyn's crows is at Krasus's landing (by where the Hunters' giant eagle is, if you know it), with a quest to go speak to Odyn again. He has you go down into the basin below Valdisdal, you kill some mobs, see a Stormforged get corrupted, go back to Odyn who shouts in anger, and then gives you a quest to go to the Trials of Valor. At that point you have the world quests unlocked.

I'll post a picture of the location in a moment.

I see, thanks~
 
So uh, don't update to the latest alpha version of Bartender, it breaks something and all your bars go kaflooey. Going back to the last release fixed my bars though.
 

Khezu

Member
Apparently getting the Hunter class mount lets you unlock the ability to tame Gryphons and Hippogryphs.

That's kinda weird, but alright.
 

Strimei

Member
Apparently getting the Hunter class mount lets you unlock the ability to tame Gryphons and Hippogryphs.

That's kinda weird, but alright.

Ah, that's how, huh? I remember seeing that they announced Hunters could tame winged beasts soon, but didn't know how.
 

Lain

Member
Apparently getting the Hunter class mount lets you unlock the ability to tame Gryphons and Hippogryphs.

That's kinda weird, but alright.

Ability to tame Wild Manarunners (and their corrupted counters) when? I want those. So weird that Call Beast has them show up, but then I can't tame the actual one in the wild.
 

Dugna

Member
Ability to tame Wild Manarunners (and their corrupted counters) when? I want those. So weird that Call Beast has them show up, but then I can't tame the actual one in the wild.

You can tame Manasabers, I see them all the time I think you gotta be BM though.
 
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