I went ahead and deleted my entire interface folder, and on the BC beta I'm playing with the default UI. it isn't pretty, but it feels good cause it's like learning to work with something so inefficient that it will make things easier when I do get a better UI when the expansion goes live.
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Teknopathetic
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"Will it run on top of CTMod without any issues?"
There's a CTMod button around my minimap
. (Yes, though you need to disable the bar mods).
And when you load WoW and click "Addons" there's a dropdown menu that says "Configure addons for:"
Just enable the addons for the character you want to use the UI and disable them for the characters you don't.
There's a CTMod button around my minimap
. (Yes, though you need to disable the bar mods).And when you load WoW and click "Addons" there's a dropdown menu that says "Configure addons for:"
Just enable the addons for the character you want to use the UI and disable them for the characters you don't.
so, after some more playing... finally I can say this legitly: orcs are without a doubt the best warlocks. stun resist (one of our biggest weaknesses) and blood fury adds to spell damage for warlocks now, so it's literally like having a racial ToEP, plus if you go felguard, more damage on his uber melee attacks. the only wasted racial is axe spec, and it's not like that really seriously matters. add in the fact that warlock armor just looks awesome on orcs and, well, finally their day has come. plus, when you beat down alliance without WoTF then they can't legitimately cry about it.
I also played my BE pally up to level 21 and did their equivalent of Verigan's Fist. It's just as hard, but the reward is weaker. That's one thing Blizzard really needs to fix. I thought maybe it would be easier since instead of getting a part from Deadmines, you get it from RFC, but the Deadmines part for alliance is off those goblins maybe halfway through it. For BEs you have to clear out most of RFC (which is definitely easy) and then summon a level 20 boss and kill him. That's tougher than just getting a drop that's practically 100% off the goblin woodcutter guys in Deadmines. The SFK and BFD parts are exactly the same as the alliance version... well, ok, there's an extra named guy you have to kill in SFK, but that's it.
border said:
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Personally I would just download it from www.whataboutpp.com instead. I get speeds of 400kbps~ on patch day.
I played around on the test server a bit today. First time I've been on WoW in months, and first time I've seen any of the new talents. Wow. I think it's safe to say that resto Shamans with decent gear are overpowered. Earthshield is insane. Warriors need to be MS to even have a chance, and even then they can easily be kited. Rogues are a joke against that. I watched a rogue in tier 2.5 with Pugio / Perditions backstab a shaman in Tier 3 4 times, and the Shaman ended up at 80% HP :lol Seriously insane. Cloak of Shadows is pretty godly as well. In fact, a rogue who is specced prep/CoS is pretty great in the arena. That's like an endless stream of cooldowns. I did the arena thing for a few hours, and it's fun, but they're almost over too fast, especially if the queue time is more than a minute or two, and get extremely repetitive. Still fun to hop in and do one or two though. The HWL gear looks pretty easy to obtain. Maybe a month of hardcore PvP. All the blue gear can be obtained in about 3 days :lol Whatever though.
Personally I like that HWL gear is pretty easy to obtain... but a lot of the expansion stuff will be harder to get just because of the eye of the storm marks you need. Most of the level 70 weapons require 20 EotS marks to buy, along with 15k honor points. Still, it's good gear. Also it looks like pvp mounts require level 60 and 150 riding in the expansion, which kind of sucks, but oh well.
Those instructions don't work with the Background Downloader because it's "Background Downloader.exe" and WowTorrent looks for files that fall under the name format of "Wow-*-downloader.exe".Mute said:
Since all it's doing is downloading pre-patch data, I can't find the patch information on a 3rd party site (as far as I can tell).
Gnome Fury Warrior delivers 1550 DPS, supposedly a World First for DPS:
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=31934
Rogues and Mages am crying?
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=31934
Rogues and Mages am crying?
Teknopathetic
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I'd like to see what a combat dagger rogue could do with Kingsfall/Maexxna's Fang and ~2600AP.
ok, after playing around more with BEs (though now that I'm done with the new zones, I'm not bothering to play mine anymore) I think I can safely rate their usefulness in each class as follows:
1) Paladin - basically every single racial helps Paladins aside from the +10 enchanting racial, which helps if you decide to be an enchanter. Mana tap can be used to pull on mobs with mana, arcane torrent gives an interrupt (because really, 2 seconds of silence isn't much at all most of the time) and can also provide some quick mana. I think Mana Tap is bugged and doesn't give mana to the user, because Blizz's SCT ripoff shows a mana gain whenever I use mana tap, but I don't actually gain mana. It's probably more likely that blizz's SCT ripoff is reporting it incorrectly though, cause it's +71 mana at level 21, and it's on a 30 second cooldown... even with over 1k mana that's a good instant boost to mana and you'd gain more than an equivalent level mana pot using it 4 times vs 1 mana pot (same cooldown in total time). Still, if you go enchanting every single racial is golden for a paladin, and if you don't, then 3/4 of them are awesome.
2) Rogue - Basically the same as Paladins, just that arcane torrent isn't as useful due to all their interrupts.
3) Priest - Mana tap's buff lasts 10 minutes and it has a 30 yard casting range, so in a group you could easily build up 3 charges of it and then use arcane torrent when you need some quick mana. That's probably not so useful at the high end with all of the MP/5 gear and divine meditation, but still. Plus arcane torrent gives non-shadow BEs a silence (and shadow ones get a second silence), even if it's only 2 seconds, and the mana loss on your target from mana tap can help in pve or pvp.
4) Mages - Similar to priest, but only ranked lower because they get counterspell so they have an interrupt by default, and mana gems so the mana returned isn't quite as necessary. Still, they actually seriously benefit from the mana gained.
5) Hunters - Mana tap is sort of ok, but really they won't need it much. Arcane torrent is kind of redundant for a class that needs to be at range, however it's not bad in duels or pvp, and even with no target active you can use arcane torrent to regen mana. But compare it to going 41 marksman, and quite frankly, you're better off being any other hunter race.
6) Warlock - Compared to orcs and undead, BE warlocks just flat out suck. They're pretty, but mana tap/arcane torrent is ONLY useful for a silence, and warlocks tear the shit out of other casters already so that's kind of pointless. The mana gain is good (since free mana is free mana), but you get lifetap at like level 6, and drain mana at 26. So it's not nearly as important for a lock as it is any other BE mana class.
Now, I'm just rating them by racials, but seriously, BE melee are awesome, BE mages/priests are good, BE pet classes are mediocre.
BTW, BE priests apparently get touch of weakness at level 10, and Consume Magic at 20. ToW is hopefully just a placeholder, Consume Magic is interesting but weird. It scales as you level and it consumes a buff to restore mana. So I guess for a BE priest, you can consume inner fire to regain mana, since it restores more mana than it costs to cast inner fire. I really hope they get a unique level 10 racial spell.
Draenei priests get some unique spell at 10 (I don't know what, but I don't think it's the Thott datamined level 10 racial) and fear ward at 20. I really wish BEs got fear ward so horde and alliance would be totally balanced in terms of pve content, but oh well.
And speaking of Draenei, I've got to say that their mount is pretty lame. Well, ok, it doesn't completely blow or anything (nothing is blander than horses, or more retarded than nightsabers), but the Elekk is like the kodo's retarded cousin. It doesn't look too bad sitting still, but it animates really dumbly. I know it's an elephant knockoff, but it looks clumsy, and not in a cute/funny way. It just looks half-assed. Then again what little I've seen of the Draenei zones seems half-assed too. Not that I personally mind; it's good that Blizzard actually concentrates on horde content for once.
1) Paladin - basically every single racial helps Paladins aside from the +10 enchanting racial, which helps if you decide to be an enchanter. Mana tap can be used to pull on mobs with mana, arcane torrent gives an interrupt (because really, 2 seconds of silence isn't much at all most of the time) and can also provide some quick mana. I think Mana Tap is bugged and doesn't give mana to the user, because Blizz's SCT ripoff shows a mana gain whenever I use mana tap, but I don't actually gain mana. It's probably more likely that blizz's SCT ripoff is reporting it incorrectly though, cause it's +71 mana at level 21, and it's on a 30 second cooldown... even with over 1k mana that's a good instant boost to mana and you'd gain more than an equivalent level mana pot using it 4 times vs 1 mana pot (same cooldown in total time). Still, if you go enchanting every single racial is golden for a paladin, and if you don't, then 3/4 of them are awesome.
2) Rogue - Basically the same as Paladins, just that arcane torrent isn't as useful due to all their interrupts.
3) Priest - Mana tap's buff lasts 10 minutes and it has a 30 yard casting range, so in a group you could easily build up 3 charges of it and then use arcane torrent when you need some quick mana. That's probably not so useful at the high end with all of the MP/5 gear and divine meditation, but still. Plus arcane torrent gives non-shadow BEs a silence (and shadow ones get a second silence), even if it's only 2 seconds, and the mana loss on your target from mana tap can help in pve or pvp.
4) Mages - Similar to priest, but only ranked lower because they get counterspell so they have an interrupt by default, and mana gems so the mana returned isn't quite as necessary. Still, they actually seriously benefit from the mana gained.
5) Hunters - Mana tap is sort of ok, but really they won't need it much. Arcane torrent is kind of redundant for a class that needs to be at range, however it's not bad in duels or pvp, and even with no target active you can use arcane torrent to regen mana. But compare it to going 41 marksman, and quite frankly, you're better off being any other hunter race.
6) Warlock - Compared to orcs and undead, BE warlocks just flat out suck. They're pretty, but mana tap/arcane torrent is ONLY useful for a silence, and warlocks tear the shit out of other casters already so that's kind of pointless. The mana gain is good (since free mana is free mana), but you get lifetap at like level 6, and drain mana at 26. So it's not nearly as important for a lock as it is any other BE mana class.
Now, I'm just rating them by racials, but seriously, BE melee are awesome, BE mages/priests are good, BE pet classes are mediocre.
BTW, BE priests apparently get touch of weakness at level 10, and Consume Magic at 20. ToW is hopefully just a placeholder, Consume Magic is interesting but weird. It scales as you level and it consumes a buff to restore mana. So I guess for a BE priest, you can consume inner fire to regain mana, since it restores more mana than it costs to cast inner fire. I really hope they get a unique level 10 racial spell.
Draenei priests get some unique spell at 10 (I don't know what, but I don't think it's the Thott datamined level 10 racial) and fear ward at 20. I really wish BEs got fear ward so horde and alliance would be totally balanced in terms of pve content, but oh well.
And speaking of Draenei, I've got to say that their mount is pretty lame. Well, ok, it doesn't completely blow or anything (nothing is blander than horses, or more retarded than nightsabers), but the Elekk is like the kodo's retarded cousin. It doesn't look too bad sitting still, but it animates really dumbly. I know it's an elephant knockoff, but it looks clumsy, and not in a cute/funny way. It just looks half-assed. Then again what little I've seen of the Draenei zones seems half-assed too. Not that I personally mind; it's good that Blizzard actually concentrates on horde content for once.
RaySpencer
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how 'bout some pics Firex ! i wouldnt mind seeing some nice BE Lock and Paladin pics ...and Dreanei Mage ones
MrPing1000
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border said:
look at his gear, 2 swords off kel' crazeeeee
Son of Godzilla
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firex said:
ToW to be replaced by Feedback!@!
And BEs getting Fear Ward would just piss off every single priest on the horde side already. Should give it to everyone and make the stupid dwarf priests something fitting. Like a 5 minute +5 mining buff.
yeah, true. I just want some way for horde to have fear ward.Son of Godzilla said:
I think I can also safely state it as fact that anyone who complains about BE racials in pvp is a crybaby. WotF, War Stomp, and now Blood Fury are way better as far as actives go.
e: jesus christ, I'm going felguard in the expansion. I didn't realize he's basically voidwalker + succubus.
Oni Link 666
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unifin said:
Do you know his WOW character's name? You could try searching in thottbot.com if you do.
I've heard that BC has 20 slot bags in it....how hard is it to get them?
I'm considering buying some Argent Dawn crap, but I'm not sure whether I should get the Tanking ring or the 18-slot bag. I know that both will be outdated once BC arrives, but I'd like to know which will last me longer. Maybe I should save up for the epic items instead?
I'm considering buying some Argent Dawn crap, but I'm not sure whether I should get the Tanking ring or the 18-slot bag. I know that both will be outdated once BC arrives, but I'd like to know which will last me longer. Maybe I should save up for the epic items instead?
Son of Godzilla
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Oh yea, that reminds me. Could you clarify what's going on with the bag slots? The banks getting a whole new row, okay simple enough. But then everyone is getting another character bag slot? I remember something about that I think.
the bank has 4 more slots for items, and an additional space for a bag.
As far as tailored stuff... I really have no idea how hard it is to get the 20 slot bags, but I know there are really easy 16 slotters (netherweave bags) and some higher-up 18 slot bag that also involves netherweave.
And netherweave is easy to get, I've already got well over a stack of it. Most mobs I kill in outland drop netherweave instead of runecloth, which actually sucks for building up my FA.
e: I'd get the 18 slot AD bag, no question, because it's not like the 18 slot pattern from tailoring comes at 305 skill or something. Just search thottbot's beta section and you can get the info for nearly all the bag recipes.
As far as tailored stuff... I really have no idea how hard it is to get the 20 slot bags, but I know there are really easy 16 slotters (netherweave bags) and some higher-up 18 slot bag that also involves netherweave.
And netherweave is easy to get, I've already got well over a stack of it. Most mobs I kill in outland drop netherweave instead of runecloth, which actually sucks for building up my FA.
e: I'd get the 18 slot AD bag, no question, because it's not like the 18 slot pattern from tailoring comes at 305 skill or something. Just search thottbot's beta section and you can get the info for nearly all the bag recipes.
Well I gotta imagine that the auction house will be flooded with 18 slot bags, whereas a tank ring that's better than the AD one will be a bit harder to find.
On the other hand, I'll probably get more pre-BC use out of an 18 slot bag than I would a tank ring, since I really don't run instances much anymore.
On the other hand, I'll probably get more pre-BC use out of an 18 slot bag than I would a tank ring, since I really don't run instances much anymore.
there are a load of tank rings from quests and jewelcrafting right now. I've gotten blues/greens from quests in outland that are better than tier 2 armor and comparable to nef epics (like the staff I'm using right now on my warlock). Seriously, gear is pretty much unimportant, because the only way you're NOT going to replace stuff by questing/doing some of the early instances like hellfire citadel ramparts is if you have tier 2.5 or tier 3.
Oni Link 666
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I got my first non-weapon epic pieces tonight along with an Epic Alterac Valley ram.
SatelliteOfLove
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Then hit ghostwolf and SPRINT away! :lol
New guild policy: Ossirian, Jindo, Bloodlord, and Hakkar die every 3 days except one bad stretch were our 40 man raids get in the way and only one or the other get done. Good since the new guys get good gear, and it teaches them self-reliance since fewer of us vets do these, or are in as alts. Win-Win.
New guild policy: Ossirian, Jindo, Bloodlord, and Hakkar die every 3 days except one bad stretch were our 40 man raids get in the way and only one or the other get done. Good since the new guys get good gear, and it teaches them self-reliance since fewer of us vets do these, or are in as alts. Win-Win.
so, with everyone calling resto the new hotness, I respecced my shaman to resto too. I can see where they're coming from since you're practically unkillable with it. I also did a little bit of Hellfire Citadel. I cleared the Ramparts and Blood Furnace at level 60 in about 3 hours total. Pretty good instances, very short and sweet, but that also means a bit less loot. Still, they weren't hard at all and earth shield is crazy good on a melee class like a warrior or rogue.
I was so lucky today, I got both Drake Fang Talisman and Bloodfang Chest. I topped at 560 dps at Ebonroc with only Battle Shout, WF + Strength totem and a mongoose pot. I'm sure I can improve that tons.
Health: 3973
AP: 975
Crit: 30.86%
Hit: 16.2%
Wielding: Perdition's Blade and Core Hound Tooth
Build: 15/31/5
Health: 3973
AP: 975
Crit: 30.86%
Hit: 16.2%
Wielding: Perdition's Blade and Core Hound Tooth
Build: 15/31/5
Did Ramparts again, this time on my warlock (also hit 62) and even with a crappy group like I had (good group in theory, but crappy players for the most part) it's easily doable in an hour. You also get Thrallmar rep for it, which is nice. Ironically I think if you want to maximize your Thrallmar rep, you should just do Ramparts until you hit honored from the kills, and THEN go do all the quests. Oh well. There's also enough BE quests in the BE town in the zone to hit friendly with them, at least if the current rep grind stays in.
John_B said:I was so lucky today, I got both Drake Fang Talisman and Bloodfang Chest. I topped at 560 dps at Ebonroc with only Battle Shout, WF + Strength totem and a mongoose pot. I'm sure I can improve that tons.
Health: 3973
AP: 975
Crit: 30.86%
Hit: 16.2%
Wielding: Perdition's Blade and Core Hound Tooth
Build: 15/31/5
I do more than that on Patchwerk...as a warlock
I'm so glad the expansion makes the game easier, quicker, and less about retarded raiding. I just hope Blizzard doesn't let that get away from them again and start devoting more time to raid instances. It's nice to play a 5 man and not expect to be bitched at for not being perfect, to be able to make mistakes, and yet to also be able to really shine with great skills/knowledge of your class.
Also, affliction warlocks will probably get nerfed, at least I'd imagine they would. Here's my simple suggestion for warlocks going into the expansion once it goes live:
If you have 600ish or so in +damage gear, go affliction (though what I would do personally is go 40 affliction/11 destruction so you can tap mobs with shadowburn if necessary); if you don't, go demonology. Don't bother with destruction until later on. I think it won't really shine until you're 70 and have a ton of +damage gear and spell crit/hit rating. Affliction warlocks in the expansion honestly don't use shadowbolt unless they proc nightfall - it's just not good dps compared to 3 dots + drain life with the new soul siphon talent. Demonology warlocks (like what I went with) are pretty awesome, but I think the best spec for pure dps/soloing doesn't involve any improved pet talents.
Actually I'll just list what I got right now: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc=AZbxczIizzxstxx0k with this, my imp provides a very hefty bonus to spell damage in groups, plus the reduced threat, and when I solo I just use the felguard. The felguard's only weakness is like the video a few pages back says - it can wind up taking a lot of damage. That's more because it'll easily hold aggro on 2 mobs than its armor/HP - it's got the second best HP and I think second or third best mana of all the lock pets, along with essentially the same armor as the VW. Oh, and the point in mana feed >>>>>>>> demonic resilience. Giving your pet 1/3 of your lifetap/drain mana is great for the felguard and imp. The great thing about the felguard is he's finally a pet that's all-around useful for warlocks - great soloing (by far the soloer's pet), great in groups (his extra damage is significant, and on weaker adds he can tank them as good as a hunter pet can) and great in pvp (intercept ftw).
The only real problem I find with going affliction is deciding what other tree to spec in. Improved shadowbolt is really good if you get a crit from nightfall, but demonology adds a lot passively with extra HP/mana and extra int for the imp so you can steal more from him with dark pact. Demonic Aegis is also nice, but moreso when you hit 62 and get Fel Armor.
Oh, and just talking about abilities.... Master Healthstone is awesome. I'm not 68 yet (and I don't think I'll put the effort into getting there during beta) but it's 2080 hp without improved healthstone. So add in imp. HS and you're looking at a 2500ish healthstone.
Also, affliction warlocks will probably get nerfed, at least I'd imagine they would. Here's my simple suggestion for warlocks going into the expansion once it goes live:
If you have 600ish or so in +damage gear, go affliction (though what I would do personally is go 40 affliction/11 destruction so you can tap mobs with shadowburn if necessary); if you don't, go demonology. Don't bother with destruction until later on. I think it won't really shine until you're 70 and have a ton of +damage gear and spell crit/hit rating. Affliction warlocks in the expansion honestly don't use shadowbolt unless they proc nightfall - it's just not good dps compared to 3 dots + drain life with the new soul siphon talent. Demonology warlocks (like what I went with) are pretty awesome, but I think the best spec for pure dps/soloing doesn't involve any improved pet talents.
Actually I'll just list what I got right now: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent-bc=AZbxczIizzxstxx0k with this, my imp provides a very hefty bonus to spell damage in groups, plus the reduced threat, and when I solo I just use the felguard. The felguard's only weakness is like the video a few pages back says - it can wind up taking a lot of damage. That's more because it'll easily hold aggro on 2 mobs than its armor/HP - it's got the second best HP and I think second or third best mana of all the lock pets, along with essentially the same armor as the VW. Oh, and the point in mana feed >>>>>>>> demonic resilience. Giving your pet 1/3 of your lifetap/drain mana is great for the felguard and imp. The great thing about the felguard is he's finally a pet that's all-around useful for warlocks - great soloing (by far the soloer's pet), great in groups (his extra damage is significant, and on weaker adds he can tank them as good as a hunter pet can) and great in pvp (intercept ftw).
The only real problem I find with going affliction is deciding what other tree to spec in. Improved shadowbolt is really good if you get a crit from nightfall, but demonology adds a lot passively with extra HP/mana and extra int for the imp so you can steal more from him with dark pact. Demonic Aegis is also nice, but moreso when you hit 62 and get Fel Armor.
Oh, and just talking about abilities.... Master Healthstone is awesome. I'm not 68 yet (and I don't think I'll put the effort into getting there during beta) but it's 2080 hp without improved healthstone. So add in imp. HS and you're looking at a 2500ish healthstone.
Son of Godzilla
Banned
firex said:
Screw secondary. My plan is to go 53/8/0, grabbing HS and Imp so I can pretend to be group oriented or whatever the ****. Shadowburn is a crutch!
Here's some pics I took, but I'm honestly not much of a screenshotter.
Zabra'jin, the bigger horde town in Zangarmarsh.
The stairs near the start of the Hellfire Blood Furnace. I just liked the huge climb before getting into the actual area (pic is taken about halfway up the stairs).
The "lab" section (at least that's what I'll call it for now) near the end. Kind of cool simply because it goes high-tech, but in a gnomish/goblin engineering way.
Shot 1 of a Dragonhawk mob in Eversong (trying to get a pic of it for a friend, but the damn things don't stop moving).
Dragonhawk, take 2.
Dragonhawk, take 3.
Zabra'jin, the bigger horde town in Zangarmarsh.
The stairs near the start of the Hellfire Blood Furnace. I just liked the huge climb before getting into the actual area (pic is taken about halfway up the stairs).
The "lab" section (at least that's what I'll call it for now) near the end. Kind of cool simply because it goes high-tech, but in a gnomish/goblin engineering way.
Shot 1 of a Dragonhawk mob in Eversong (trying to get a pic of it for a friend, but the damn things don't stop moving).
Dragonhawk, take 2.
Dragonhawk, take 3.
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