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Buggy Loop
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Maxrpg said:
Uh? wtf is going on, orc's shoulders isnt a change, the freaking thing clips into my character's skin.
Liferebooted
Banned
I was still 30k away from 66 when I left Nagrand. Blades Edge is such a horrible zone. =\ I dont see how people just entering blades edge are upto 68 ..
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand now they apparently fuck up another race's gear size! Yeah, that orc thing was a BUG! :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Son of Godzilla
Banned
That's not true. Dwarf is simply better than any race if it's available, with possible favor to UD for rogue and warrior.firex said:
even though it's a long, long, long way off for my rogue (just hit 33) I'm wondering, what's a good mutilate build at 70? I'm the cookie cutter combat swords build right now, but at 70 I want to do something totally different and grab a couple good daggers and stab people. and I don't really care about pvp (and won't until it's a good pvp class again).
Fulleffect
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Warnen said:
sort of depends on your server / side but most likely AV, i would personally save your honor for the epic non set items though
Son of Godzilla
Banned
This is so not the right place to ask, but what the hell, I'll ask. For those of yall that raid as hunters, do you use macros or manually time shots? I just switched to a macro and I'm not at all impressed with whatever dps I should have gained. I wasn't particularly bad at clipping before, but I can't say any difference from the macros I've noticed has translated into actual dps. And no it's not a mana problem, I use an fd/alch stone switch out macro and down pots like mad, I finish most fights with a healthy supply of mana left. The macro I'm using now is a pure 1.5 rotation, combining multi and arcane with a steady each every 10 seconds.
I'm not looking for advice or whatever on my rotation, just a general opinion on macro vs self cast.
I'm not looking for advice or whatever on my rotation, just a general opinion on macro vs self cast.
Azwethinkweiz
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Son of Godzilla said:
Back when I used to raid, I would just use an auto-shot timer and weave my shots in between that. I've never done a full on macro for my rotation.
priests are great in arena, i almost say for high lvl 5v5 arena play priests might be the most useful healers, dispell + mass dispell ftw
for 2v2, 3v3, a good resto druid is prolly the best
and if you get bored of healing you can always go shadow, either way cant go wrong with your priest if you like to pvp
for 2v2, 3v3, a good resto druid is prolly the best
and if you get bored of healing you can always go shadow, either way cant go wrong with your priest if you like to pvp
Each healing class has their best and worst capabilities in PVP. I've tried to play them all as much as possible lately on the PTRs and I still find surprises in them at times.
Paladins are the essential non-dying "fuck that Healbot in his ass!!" grunt. Not only do they have several lifelines in their abilities but even in a pinch they are the class less likely to freak out. The true support tank in heals based on survivability and mana consumption. If you ever consider rolling a Paladin for PVP and do enjoy healing, try to hit up a Draenei just for the racial HoT.
Shaman are almost the same. I say almost because they're screwed if you're facing another Shaman/Priest nearby who will just dispel or purge your Earth Shield and you're nothing but dead. Again just like a Paladin though if you are getting focus fired, just spam that 1.5 second heal and let the support finish them off. Chain Heal is also very nice in a grouping role at times and as much disbelief as people put in it.. Healing Stream Totem stacks with your +heal and is practically the only HoT Shaman has, but a heal is a heal regardless. I've found that each class in a Shaman role is good in their own way; Draenei with the HoT, Tauren with Warstomp, Orcs with Blood Fury and Trolls with Berserk. It's up to what the person prefers.
Priests are the supreme healers I think. Not only do they have nice big heals but they also have a great HoT through Renew which although not the best HoT in the game it serves it's purpose excellently. Couple that with your Power Word: Shield and Psychic Scream, a good Disc/Holy Priest is nigh on invincible in very skilled hands. The only thing that should bother you is, again, Shaman and fellow Priests who know how to dispel. You don't cop a melee protecting meat-shield but Priests make up for it in their other abilities.
Druids. What can I say? Druid healing versatility lies in their ability to constantly move around and use their forms to the best of their ability. I've seen way too many healing spec'd Druids run around in Tree Form and stand motionless just spamming their HoTs too many times. It all ends up in a mess when a skilled stun-locking Rogue starts smacking at you from behind or a Warrior runs into your face and most Druids freak out. I've found that Travel form is your best friend as a Druid, maintaining the distance but able to throw down your HoTs to the best effect that you can. Most Shaman and Priest forget that your HoTs can be nullified with a simple button so unless you run into a smart one you should be fine to not use Healing Touch too much.
I'm sure other people have their words to input but like I've said.. I haven't grown up with a Druid or Paladin past lvl 20 so my experience with them is limited to what hours I've been bored enough to push through on the PTRs with them.
Paladins are the essential non-dying "fuck that Healbot in his ass!!" grunt. Not only do they have several lifelines in their abilities but even in a pinch they are the class less likely to freak out. The true support tank in heals based on survivability and mana consumption. If you ever consider rolling a Paladin for PVP and do enjoy healing, try to hit up a Draenei just for the racial HoT.
Shaman are almost the same. I say almost because they're screwed if you're facing another Shaman/Priest nearby who will just dispel or purge your Earth Shield and you're nothing but dead. Again just like a Paladin though if you are getting focus fired, just spam that 1.5 second heal and let the support finish them off. Chain Heal is also very nice in a grouping role at times and as much disbelief as people put in it.. Healing Stream Totem stacks with your +heal and is practically the only HoT Shaman has, but a heal is a heal regardless. I've found that each class in a Shaman role is good in their own way; Draenei with the HoT, Tauren with Warstomp, Orcs with Blood Fury and Trolls with Berserk. It's up to what the person prefers.
Priests are the supreme healers I think. Not only do they have nice big heals but they also have a great HoT through Renew which although not the best HoT in the game it serves it's purpose excellently. Couple that with your Power Word: Shield and Psychic Scream, a good Disc/Holy Priest is nigh on invincible in very skilled hands. The only thing that should bother you is, again, Shaman and fellow Priests who know how to dispel. You don't cop a melee protecting meat-shield but Priests make up for it in their other abilities.
Druids. What can I say? Druid healing versatility lies in their ability to constantly move around and use their forms to the best of their ability. I've seen way too many healing spec'd Druids run around in Tree Form and stand motionless just spamming their HoTs too many times. It all ends up in a mess when a skilled stun-locking Rogue starts smacking at you from behind or a Warrior runs into your face and most Druids freak out. I've found that Travel form is your best friend as a Druid, maintaining the distance but able to throw down your HoTs to the best effect that you can. Most Shaman and Priest forget that your HoTs can be nullified with a simple button so unless you run into a smart one you should be fine to not use Healing Touch too much.
I'm sure other people have their words to input but like I've said.. I haven't grown up with a Druid or Paladin past lvl 20 so my experience with them is limited to what hours I've been bored enough to push through on the PTRs with them.
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
Resto Shammy and Holy Paladin are the best survival healers for PVP because they don't go down easy, and when they duel each other it usually lasts 20mins. :lol
SatelliteOfLove
Member
You forgot PoM. I've begun to play with "Rolling PoMs" where they ricochet back and forth for excellent initial softening of incoming so I have time to crank out a big heal on who needs it.
I'm playing around with Rogue and is it ok to use a Sword/Dagger combo for early leveling? Or does it really matter? People tell my Combat swords are the way to go when leveling, but to keep a quick off hand weapon. So far, Daggers are the quickest. What about maces? Hmm...
I am enjoying it so far. The class most like MNK in FFXI that I've seen.
I am enjoying it so far. The class most like MNK in FFXI that I've seen.
teacupcopter
Banned
ManaByte said:
Just do what you like more really
Use whatever you want up until you start getting a weapon specialization from combat talents. I'm at 3/5 sword spec with my rogue and I still use a dagger in my offhand, simply because it's fast and I'm too cheap to buy a sword off the AH when I can get the SM/RFD swords in a few levels.Kintaro said:
Just bear in mind that you want to use your slowest weapon in your main hand, and fastest in your offhand... I don't really know if FFXI had a dual wielding class, or if their dual wielding rules were like that, so I felt a need to say it since most people new to dual wielding classes don't know that.
Liferebooted
Banned
Well I dinged 70 a couple nights ago. I really wanted to go from combat swords to full sub for shadow step and ambush. I played that spec on the ptr and it was a lot of fun.. but a lot better gear. Well I bought duel Ced's Carvers since that was the quickest decent set of daggers to get.. The rest of my gear currently sucks though, mix of solo quest greens and blues from early-mid 60s. This sub spec is too dependent on gear. While it was a ton of fun in BGs I could barely even solo nagrand mobs, forget about taking on 2 mobs at once.. I had to spec back to combat swords for now since I still have a lot of pve to do. I'll try sub again once I have much better gear. For now I just hit revered with The Mag'har, working on getting a Talbuk mount. I'm also farming Mech to work on the gold for my epic flying mount.
Liferebooted
Banned
I'll try that next. I just did 3 mech runs at 5 minutes each. In those 3 runs I got a Ced's Carver(60g) Star of Elune (40g) and Living Ruby(50g) to put on the ah. =)firex said:
personally, since I don't plan on pvping with my rogue, I'll probably stick with combat swords until I get a good pair of daggers after I level him to 70. Then I'll go for a mutilate/subtlety build. I just don't know if I should go for serrated blades or not... or if MoD/Camouflage are useful at all outside of pvp. The other thing I'm curious about is improved backstab... seems like mutilate pretty much replaces it, so I'm not sure I'd want to invest in it unless there's a lot of poison immune enemies in heroics.
Liferebooted
Banned
firex said:
Man, I really want my epic flying mount more than anything so I'm not even doing anything else right now except farming mech 5 times an hour. It really is simple and makes great money ><
It seems a lot of players are trying to do this hybrid AR/Prep spec that seems to do okay. 2x Vanish, Sprint, Evasion, and Adrenaline Rush is pretty sick.
But currently the flavor of the month spec for pvp rogues is combat maces, since the stun can be really annoying.
Don't even bother going 41/0/20, much better off with 41/20. If you're going to be doing any type of arena matches, the only thing useful from sub. is the increased stealth speed, the extended sap, and serrated blades. Seeing as how Blizzard has moved PVP to long lasting games with the truckloads of stamina and resilience, rogues can't pop in and out of stealth and three-shot people anymore, so 90% of your damage is going to done outside of stealth. With that said, dual wield specialization will serve sustained dps well.
But currently the flavor of the month spec for pvp rogues is combat maces, since the stun can be really annoying.
Don't even bother going 41/0/20, much better off with 41/20. If you're going to be doing any type of arena matches, the only thing useful from sub. is the increased stealth speed, the extended sap, and serrated blades. Seeing as how Blizzard has moved PVP to long lasting games with the truckloads of stamina and resilience, rogues can't pop in and out of stealth and three-shot people anymore, so 90% of your damage is going to done outside of stealth. With that said, dual wield specialization will serve sustained dps well.
Buggy Loop
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Son of Godzilla
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Uh... What?ManaByte said:
ManaByte
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Son of Godzilla said:
Thottbot has a habit of embedding keyloggers on the site ever since they were sold to a gold farming firm. Most people just us WoWHead or WoWWiki these days, or even the Armory. One of the reasons why the Armory was launched in the first place was so many account hijacks due to thottbot keyloggers.
Liferebooted
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Weird, I've been using thottbot for a year and a half, not a single problem.
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