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HarryDemeanor
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Yazus said:
Who knows. Login screens are usually found in a different MPQ file though. This one was found where all usual zones are in.
Don't know what to tell you. We one-shot 10M LK two weeks ago with a pug, while three of us, including me, being instructed 5 minutes before the pull. But we had a kick-ass group, I'll say that much. It's unreal how easy ICC normal becomes once you get 10 decent people together.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Dina said:
the tough part of the game is making up for the people that are bad. and that's always how its been, im sure.
funkmastergeneral
Banned
davepoobond said:
Too bad you can't make up for others stupidity on defiles
So I reached lvl80 over the weekend, questing like a crazy person and I get slammed by the game: my gear was too shitty to do random heroics with my brother and some friends 
Upgraded my stuff, reached the defense cap and all but my hp level is kinda low (22k unbuffed, DK). I did respec dual frost instead of 2H frost tank, and my 2H had more end on it that both my 1h together. However I have a rather decent amount of armor and parry/dodge so I guess it could be worse.
Anyway, still got to chain some heroics and bought my T9 helmet. Upgraded some of my rings, trinkets and necklace too.
That doesn't stop people from making remarks or outright insult me at the beginning of each instance. Never used to kick feature so much
Upgraded my stuff, reached the defense cap and all but my hp level is kinda low (22k unbuffed, DK). I did respec dual frost instead of 2H frost tank, and my 2H had more end on it that both my 1h together. However I have a rather decent amount of armor and parry/dodge so I guess it could be worse.
Anyway, still got to chain some heroics and bought my T9 helmet. Upgraded some of my rings, trinkets and necklace too.
That doesn't stop people from making remarks or outright insult me at the beginning of each instance. Never used to kick feature so much
I keep hearing people saying how their new lvl 80 tank keep getting insulted in heroics, but i've had a bunch of tanks in the past with only 24-27k HP unbuffed and people never say a thing about those tanks(unless they suck really bad at their job). Maybe i'm just lucky.
I had a group endlessly berate me in Mana Tombs about not having enough HP on my leveling Death Knight in spite of the fact that I had the highest gear score.Bisnic said:
Tanking is just a pain in the ass because you're always labeled as the one at fault. I really think this is one of the reasons there are so few tanks.
Dance In My Blood said:
DK tanks (and DKs in general) get a bad rap because of the influx of them feeding into the Outland. They basically hit outland when they're still learning to play their class, and so the bads tend to shine through much more on a DK I think, at least in the Outland. Unfortunately that stigma gets applied to all DKs, rather than just bad players.
Well thing is we died once because a pet aggroed a pack while we pulled a boss. I don't have a lot of HP (yet) but I did pay attention to have the highest armor possible as well as the defense cap. I also have trinkets and diverse comps that allow me to drastically improve my absorption and all so I don't think I suck that much as a tank.
On a unrelated note, the dragon fight in the Oculus is ridiculous. I was and am still confused about what the actual tactic is, if any. First time I did it I don't think anyone understood there were 3 types of dragons and we did it with 5 DPS dragons. The other time with 2 heal and 2 DPS and 1 tank. And the third time (heroic this time) with the classic 3-2-1 and it was a fucking mess.
I still kinda like it though
On a unrelated note, the dragon fight in the Oculus is ridiculous. I was and am still confused about what the actual tactic is, if any. First time I did it I don't think anyone understood there were 3 types of dragons and we did it with 5 DPS dragons. The other time with 2 heal and 2 DPS and 1 tank. And the third time (heroic this time) with the classic 3-2-1 and it was a fucking mess.
I still kinda like it though
I've seen it happen when we wiped on ToC 10. Something to the effect of you needing 3 healers when your tanks GS is blah blah blah.DarkJC said:
Alliance/Horde imbalance is apparently quite bad on Lothar it sounds like from the bitching that goes on when WG is underway. We did manage a win the other day though so I went to VoA for the first time and got some pants. Why is it that in both the 10 and 25 person raids, we didn't finish either? In the 25er, we did 2 of them and in the 10 we just did 1 guy. All 3 fights were flawless and I don't think anyone died.. why not just do everything? I was rather confused.
It took me less than 3 weeks to go from 70-80 once I started back up. That isn't too bad. With heirlooms and the ability to fly, it would have gone much quicker I am assuming. I was getting about a level a day for awhile.Bisnic said:
The VoA bosses have been added one-by-one throughout the WotLK expansion, and the loot tables for each boss have remained largely unchanged. This means the first VoA bosses drop fairly crappy stuff (from the point of view of well-geared raid or PvP characters). Only the last two drop stuff that is likely to be an upgrade for those people.Meier said:
Flib said:
I'm a bit of the same, i can play up to 4 alts in 1 day because i really don't feel like spending my whole evening in one instance. Especially when all that sweet gear will get replaced by blue items in a lvl 81-82 5 man soon.
They should just switch places with the Lich King & Marrowgar, just so i could kill him at least once. :lol
It took like 5 minutes to do the second one after the first. Are people really that impatient? Plus, the Frost badges are nice to get too...Evlar said:
The rapid fire-ness of WoW really has a negative effect on that. Earlier in WoW's lifespan, there was pretty much no way you were getting out of an instance in less than an hour let alone a raid.. people are always ready to jump off to the next thing in this. I want to punch the screen when assholes bolt after a boss that didn't have the loot they wanted. Oh well.
notworksafe
Member
I think only the newest boss drops Frost. As a guild we only do the Ice Watcher because it's pointless to do the rest once you have the achievements.
EDIT: I think they all give honor as well but I'm not 100% on that. I know Ice Walker (can't remember his name...Iceavon) does.
EDIT: I think they all give honor as well but I'm not 100% on that. I know Ice Walker (can't remember his name...Iceavon) does.
Alex
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Oh yes, quite. Those VoA pugs, at least when I played were always filled with a great number of socially inept fools.
VoA was about all I'd ever really pug, and I don't think I ever had a single really good, really smooth run. On the plus side, I don't think I ever saw any loot drama, just impatient people and massive wipes to easy bosses.
I think there's both pros and cons to the reduced time taken to run things. As a pro, the removal of many time sinks and great boons added to skillful players who could clear content quickly was a big deal for me. Playing 6-8 hours a week and being able to sit in mostly best in slot gear, do my arena team and do my dailies around the time I quit was just fantastic.
On the cons, it has really made some whiny, impatient players, and gave birth to some awkward new things for forming groups.
Still I look forward to things like the dungeon finder when I go back for Cata, I never got to use that.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
funkmastergeneral said:
and this makes me question whether or not blizzard's design decisions, albeit necessary to keep the game interesting, will actually make people quit in the end because of people just being frustrated at all the baddies doing terribly.
also, the baddies doing terribly will see themselves being carried less and less and probably just stop playing altogether anyway.
Blizzard's best bet at this point is creating massive amounts of single player content and easy 5-player dungeons. Short-raids are going to become the norm as well, just to have people less frustrated with never being able to get to that last boss in an instance.
notworksafe
Member
Hm maybe a mistake in the item system for holiday bosses? Or maybe he was party leader?firex said:
I'm a big fan of Fire Fest myself. Its the best holiday for leveling an alt. You get a ton of xp from honoring/dousing fires plus you get the 10% bonus the whole time. I may have to power level my warlock during all of this business.
FlawlessCowboy
Member
So, we getting the 25% buff tomorrow?
HarryDemeanor
Member
FlawlessCowboy said:
Along with the release of 3.3.5 (Bibi's words). Also, it looks like F&F for Cataclysm might be ending this week or next.
Mr. Luchador
Member
DarkJC said:
When I'm leveling my healer, I usually wait two pulls to see how much crit damage someone gets before I call them out no not having any DEF equipment at all when they tank.
firex said:
Undergeared :
Glyph of Blocking
Glyph of Devastate
Glyph of Taunt
Once you get geared if you plan on tanking ICC:
Glyph of Last Stand
Glyph of Shield Wall
Glyph of Taunt
Minors:
Glyph of Charge
Glyph of Thunderclap
Glyph of Command
The Undergeared glyphs are mostly for threat which will most probably be your main issue while your getting geared, you should swap them out only if your having problems on fights such as Fester or Saurfang.
Also look into getting the addon "Tanktotals" it's a great analysis tool for calculating things such as Effective Health and has an auto feature for announcing to the raid when you use Last Stand Shield Wall and other tank CDs
Acidote said:
I meant 3-1-1
I've looted some pieces of equipment tonight and I've climbed to 25k unbuffed, which is definitely better. I'm also at 60% dmg absorption and 19+% in both parry and dodge. Of course the DEF cap is reached so it can only go better from there
I also did the seasonal boss and dropped both the def and dps cloaks, we did get the buggy cloak thing where it would just go to whoever opened the chest at the end.
Also, Frost DK sucks for this boss :x
Bisnic said:
This is true, but I never really found threat in heroics a problem even when I was gearing up. Assuming your doing your rotation correctly, you'll only be having problems if you have unexpected packs and don't have abilities up to handle them.
TC -> Shockwave -> Shield Slam / Revenge / cleave on each individual mob should give you a solid hold on everything
Sebulon3k said:
But glyph of cleave allows me to get 3k-4k DPS and awesome damage as a prot warrior in heroics. :lol Even most DPS with ICC10/25 normal gear have trouble beating me in overall damage. They might still beat me sometimes in DPS, but when it comes to damage... i'd say 75% of the time i'm #1. *shake head* And when i look at Recount, My #1 & #2 attacks are often Revenge followed by Cleave. If i was crazy enough, i'd get the fury talent for Improved Cleave, but then i would lose most of my Arms talents.
Does anyone have any advice for a feral tank on the LK's raging spirits? My main is a resto shaman so I don't have much tanking experience but I did some 10 man bosses on my druid (only really tank heroics) and the silence that they use makes it so hard to pick up new ones as they spawn :/ I think people seemed a bit too spread out, maybe everyone should stack up within range of the other tank so they can still heal him? That way I could keep spamming maul/swipe/lacerate/mangle and I wouldn't need faerie fire or growl (which are gone when I'm silenced) to pick them up. I tried charging one that spawned ~10 yards away from me once and then he used the frontal cone silence thing and killed two dps ~_~...
Any help would be much appreciated ^_^, I don't know the next time I'll even be trying to tank him but I really want to know how to just in case.
Any help would be much appreciated ^_^, I don't know the next time I'll even be trying to tank him but I really want to know how to just in case.
I'm at the point whree I can't upgrade a number of pieces any longer without going on raids but I've been told my gear isn't good enough blah blah.
http://www.wowhead.com/profile=us.lothar.meier
Any suggestions? I know my gems could be improved in places but I'm spending all my money on raising enchanting and hate to blow 200 gold on a gem only to upgrade the item and lose it all.
http://www.wowhead.com/profile=us.lothar.meier
Any suggestions? I know my gems could be improved in places but I'm spending all my money on raising enchanting and hate to blow 200 gold on a gem only to upgrade the item and lose it all.
I'm at the point whree I can't upgrade a number of pieces any longer without going on raids but I've been told my gear isn't good enough blah blah.
http://www.wowhead.com/profile=us.lothar.meier
Any suggestions on how to counter this? The boots are in theory the easiest to replace via the Halls of Reflection but I haven't had any luck yet. I know my gems could be improved in places but I'm spending all my money on raising enchanting and hate to blow 200 gold on a gem only to upgrade the item and lose it all.
http://www.wowhead.com/profile=us.lothar.meier
Any suggestions on how to counter this? The boots are in theory the easiest to replace via the Halls of Reflection but I haven't had any luck yet. I know my gems could be improved in places but I'm spending all my money on raising enchanting and hate to blow 200 gold on a gem only to upgrade the item and lose it all.
funkmastergeneral
Banned
Meier said:
I wouldn't invite you to a raid, no offense man. Your gear just looks like you haven't really tried. Get some craftable 245 or 264 gear, and don't gem for socket bonuses. I don't have a level 80 hunter, but I do know that you should never be gemming with a purple gem, you don't need that extra stamina. Also rare gems make you look lazy/cheap
I wouldn't go into ICC until you get everything you can out of heroics & triumphs. Get rid of those 2 blue items as fast as you can. Gem mostly in Agility(as far as i know, havent played hunter for a while), never purple gems with stamina or yellow gems with only crit. The PVP 264 bracers that aren't very expensive on honor would be better than what you have currently. You don't even need to do PVP if you hate it, just gather stone keeper shards from heroics, or do the 2 easy quests in Wintergrasp that dont even require to do PVP since you can just kill npcs wandering around.
Don't hesitate too much on putting epic gems on your 232-245 gear. Those might last for a while, unlike 200-219-226 which i agree aren't worth it for epic gems when you can easily upgrade those from 5 mans.
Don't hesitate too much on putting epic gems on your 232-245 gear. Those might last for a while, unlike 200-219-226 which i agree aren't worth it for epic gems when you can easily upgrade those from 5 mans.
Azwethinkweiz
Member
Meier said:
Man, I told you earlier. Your gemming is all over the place. Unless you're below the hit cap, gem only agility (unless the bonus is really good, which isn't really the case with any of your gear). Also, I don't know if you're still BM, but change to survival or MM. I'd suggest survival until your gear is really good.
Here's my hunter for reference. He just started doing ICC and my gear isn't much better than yours (save for the two pieces of T10 I got from VOA).
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mal'Ganis&cn=Bourne
Ok guys, enough ass wiping, he asked for help
First of all, being a DPS who is extremely dependant of his weapon dps, you need a new weapon and I suggest this:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=50444
Yes, it's a tanking weapon, but it's damage output is better than yours and there is a chance you may get it in AH.
Other alternative: farm Pit of Saron until you get this:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=50262
Then the obvious one would be to get the two T10 pieces you need (and combine it with 2 pieces of T9 you already have). Do daily random heroics and the ahune fight, that's 4 frost emblems until 4 july.
For trinkets, I suggest you farm Trials of Champion (normal) for a Banner of Victory:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=50262
And the forge of Souls for this:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=50198
Boots need a replacement ASAP, Try to get into heroic Hall of Reflection runs to get this:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=50295
Or try to buy/craft this:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=45562
Very generic tips but I think that will give you an objective (aside of the gems, enchants, etc).
First of all, being a DPS who is extremely dependant of his weapon dps, you need a new weapon and I suggest this:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=50444
Yes, it's a tanking weapon, but it's damage output is better than yours and there is a chance you may get it in AH.
Other alternative: farm Pit of Saron until you get this:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=50262
Then the obvious one would be to get the two T10 pieces you need (and combine it with 2 pieces of T9 you already have). Do daily random heroics and the ahune fight, that's 4 frost emblems until 4 july.
For trinkets, I suggest you farm Trials of Champion (normal) for a Banner of Victory:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=50262
And the forge of Souls for this:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=50198
Boots need a replacement ASAP, Try to get into heroic Hall of Reflection runs to get this:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=50295
Or try to buy/craft this:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=45562
Very generic tips but I think that will give you an objective (aside of the gems, enchants, etc).
Alex
Member
Meier said:
I hate to tell someone how to spend their time, but this is totally why jumping in at this stage of an expansion is so awful. You will be taking your lessons through some very harsh scenarios and be spending a lot of time and money in ways you shouldn't have to in a natural game environment.
Blizzard in general needs to also learn how to pace their expansions better. Their crazy gear ladders could really be handled so much better.
Oh well, just a few months to go.
Azwethinkweiz
Member
Acosta said:Ok guys, enough ass wiping, he asked for help
First of all, being a DPS who is extremely dependant of his weapon dps, you need a new weapon and I suggest this:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=50444
Yes, it's a tanking weapon, but it's damage output is better than yours and there is a chance you may get it in AH.
Other alternative: farm Pit of Saron until you get this:
http://www.wowhead.com/item=50262
Did you look at his gear? He already has the bolter.
RiskyChris
Banned
Alex said:
I've played at launch, the end of TBC, and now the end of WOTLK. Gearing up right now to play WoW is a matter of 2 weeks at 80. Doing the same during TBC was much, much harder.
RiskyChris said:
I didn't play for some months and when I came back to TBC I had to do the attunement quests to start Karazhan, without guild support and in a server where people had little motivation to run dungeons and help find the keys, being immersed on raid progression. It was really frustrating, especially compared to how easy is to get a decent gear these days (and I still remember the days when seeing a purple was such a big deal, I think I got two from vainilla and I felt completely badass :lol )
I hate you for that pic
I tried to find that stupid dragon for weeks without any luck.- Status