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[Sesha]

Re: Capcom x Capcom

It was almost certainly a game that existed at one point and was intended to play like MvC3, but the below-expectations sales of SFxT tanked it internally.

Capcom business logic. Poor quality or rushed release underperforms? Guess everything non-SF is a dead end, then. Instead of looking at SFxT they should be looking at MvC3s initial sales and overall reception. I'm pretty sure a MvC3-like Capcom All-Stars with a slightly expanded but mostly recycled roster from UMvC3 would do well enough to warrant the risk it represents.

Capcom is a weird company in terms of business decisions. DMC a success? Better rush out a sequel without involving the original team or creator. Dino Crisis a success? Make the third installment a weird shooter set in outer space, and cancel the PS2 version in favor of the Xbox. Capcom Fighting All-Stars development falls through? Better rush out a poorly slapped together a 2D fighting game franchise crossover to recuperate losses. DMC4 sells 2.5m units in a year? Reboot the entire franchise, strip down the mechanics and change the entire aesthetic to a urban-punk dystopia with ugly characters in order to appeal more to the west. MvC3 a success? Release an expansion pack in less than a year. Dragon's Dogma, a big scale action RPG, perfect for a PC audience? No PC version, ever. Etc, etc.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

You are losing me now man, Shadow can pretty much do whatever sonic can do, but he isn't as fast (unless someone can confirm) without chaos emeralds. He also has Chaos force, he can do some crazy stuff without chaos emeralds like energy projection, teleportation, Flight etc... (Things sonic cannot do without being super sonic)

If anything I could see him fighting similar to wesker, but with projectiles. He would be the Sega side Vergil/Wesker/DarkPhoenix. Probably low health but crazy speed and damage. Don't write off a character because you don't know about him. Be creative and look at the abilities they have displayed throughout the series, and still if you are not a fan, then don't write off a character you don't know.

To respond to you in order, if your name isn't sonic or shadow the hedgehog. You probably aren't more popular than shadow the hedgehog. Mike pollock will sing you a song about that.

Also, he woudn't be. He has a myriad of powers... that sonic doesn't have , including but not limited to

And entire superform that isn't actually super shadow
-Time stop
-Time slowing
-super super speed
-Chaos blasts,
-The ability to weapons out of chaos energy like vigils swords. More often than not this is a spear but occasionally it has taken other forms
-Teleportation
- and all the various chaos shit he had in sonic battle

He wouldn't be simular to sonic at all... there was already a fighting game with shadow in it. Called sonic battle, where he didn't even fight anywhere like sonic, but more like dormammu and wesker

No even talks about chaos.. at all. Don't take being in the comics as popularity. They push the sinister six in the comic, the love for those characters seems to be minimal at best. Its just what whatever writer likes and seems interesting at the time

Well, my bad dudes lol. I don't follow Sonic that heavily anymore, and I'm more into the idea of this being a UMvC3-esque game. I had no clue Shadow could do so much different.

 

[Platy]

Anyone have this image in better resolution ?

Found it

 

[Videoneon]

I read some of the roster wishlist stuff here. I have a question for Phantasy Star fans/people who know of Phantasy Star

It's pretty important the franchise gets represented, but who would they choose to represent the franchise? Is it really okay to choose a create-a-character template as a representative? I realize PSO and PSO2 are popular, but it still feels off.

 

[Meesh]

So I noticed Vyse in the second artwork in the thread... makes me sad this will probably be the only way we can enjoy anything new as far as Skies of Arcadia is concerned...almost depressing...but hey, can still play it on mah GC or Nintendont and I can always look in awe at mah Vyse First4 statue Long live SoA, however we my enjoy you now and in the future.

 

[batfax]

I read some of the roster wishlist stuff here. I have a question for Phantasy Star fans/people who know of Phantasy Star

It's pretty important the franchise gets represented, but who would they choose to represent the franchise? Is it really okay to choose a create-a-character template as a representative? I realize PSO and PSO2 are popular, but it still feels off.

There are Phantasy Star games before Online. The series is one of Sega's oldest, even older than Sonic.

 

[Seven Force]

I read some of the roster wishlist stuff here. I have a question for Phantasy Star fans/people who know of Phantasy Star

It's pretty important the franchise gets represented, but who would they choose to represent the franchise? Is it really okay to choose a create-a-character template as a representative? I realize PSO and PSO2 are popular, but it still feels off.

I think the safe choice would be to just go with Alis, since the franchise in general started with her.

 

[batfax]

Alis for top tier.

 

[IntelliHeath]

I'm fine with any characters from Breath of Fire. It's a time for them to have their spotlight in fighting game. Mainly, Nina or Ryu please.

 

[Videoneon]

There are Phantasy Star games before Online. The series is one of Sega's oldest, even older than Sonic.

I think the safe choice would be to just go with Alis, since the franchise in general started with her.

Yeah I know about her and I think she's pretty godlike but some people might be apprehensive about using a Phantasy Star that's so "old" when there may be other options

upfront though I'd be cool with a classical Phantasy Star character

 

[Jaeger]

Phantasy Star is one of those franchises I admit I've never played before. I need to fix this.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Re: Capcom x Capcom

It was almost certainly a game that existed at one point and was intended to play like MvC3, but the below-expectations sales of SFxT tanked it internally.

Really? That is quite disappointing if it's true.

 

[secretanchitman]

Capcom business logic. Poor quality or rushed release underperforms? Guess everything non-SF is a dead end, then. Instead of looking at SFxT they should be looking at MvC3s initial sales and overall reception. I'm pretty sure a MvC3-like Capcom All-Stars with a slightly expanded but mostly recycled roster from UMvC3 would do well enough to warrant the risk it represents.

Capcom is a weird company in terms of business decisions. DMC a success? Better rush out a sequel without involving the original team or creator. Dino Crisis a success? Make the third installment a weird shooter set in outer space, and cancel the PS2 version in favor of the Xbox. Capcom Fighting All-Stars development falls through? Better rush out a poorly slapped together a 2D fighting game franchise crossover to recuperate losses. DMC4 sells 2.5m units in a year? Reboot the entire franchise, strip down the mechanics and change the entire aesthetic to a urban-punk dystopia with ugly characters in order to appeal more to the west. MvC3 a success? Release an expansion pack in less than a year. Dragon's Dogma, a big scale action RPG, perfect for a PC audience? No PC version, ever. Etc, etc.

Well said. It's just crazy to me that UMVC3 was released literally in the same year as MVC3 - they couldn't even wait at least a year to announce the DLC/expansion/super-ultra-ultimate version of it.

 

[Face it Tiger..]

no spencer, no bionic arm.. no buy

 

[Mariolee]

it has megaman so it'll never be a reality

TBH it's a surprise Smash Bros. wasn't cancelled.

 

[Biker19]

Sega has great characters (far more than fucking first party Sony, for the record) and posts like this shows people's lack of knowledge to their amazing catalog of games and characters.

Exactly. Who the hell knows characters like PaRappa The Rapper? Or Sweet Tooth? Or Sir Daniel Fortesque?

 

[Professor Beef]

Capcom business logic. Poor quality or rushed release underperforms? Guess everything non-SF is a dead end, then. Instead of looking at SFxT they should be looking at MvC3s initial sales and overall reception. I'm pretty sure a MvC3-like Capcom All-Stars with a slightly expanded but mostly recycled roster from UMvC3 would do well enough to warrant the risk it represents.

Capcom is a weird company in terms of business decisions. DMC a success? Better rush out a sequel without involving the original team or creator. Dino Crisis a success? Make the third installment a weird shooter set in outer space, and cancel the PS2 version in favor of the Xbox. Capcom Fighting All-Stars development falls through? Better rush out a poorly slapped together a 2D fighting game franchise crossover to recuperate losses. DMC4 sells 2.5m units in a year? Reboot the entire franchise, strip down the mechanics and change the entire aesthetic to a urban-punk dystopia with ugly characters in order to appeal more to the west. MvC3 a success? Release an expansion pack in less than a year. Dragon's Dogma, a big scale action RPG, perfect for a PC audience? No PC version, ever. Etc, etc.

UMvC3 was initially supposed to be spread-out DLC, but then those natural disasters happened to force their hand. That second one is just your bias.

Exactly. Who the hell knows characters like PaRappa The Rapper? Or Sweet Tooth? Or Sir Daniel Fortesque?

I do, for one, as well as many others.

 

[Jaeger]

Would be too cool for school.

 

[celsowmbr]

Would be too cool for school.

Day 0 !!!

 

[Scrub Mcgrubb]

As of January 22nd, Niitsuma said he isn't making fighting games anymore.... don't get your hopes up.

https://twitter.com/Ryota_Niitsuma/status/558490951312998403

 

[CPS2]

As of January 22nd, Niitsuma said he isn't making fighting games anymore.... don't get your hopes up.

https://twitter.com/Ryota_Niitsuma/status/558490951312998403

I don't know if people remember this, but for years Ono would hint that he was about to announce something, and there was just nothing. Then one day he said he had nothing to announce, and not long after that, SFV was revealed. It was basically assumed to be almost ready to show as soon as Ono said he had nothing. So Niitsuma is definitely working on Sega vs Capcom, I think they'll probably reveal it closer to SFV's launch.

 

[Piccoro]

I don't know if people remember this, but for years Ono would hint that he was about to announce something, and there was just nothing. Then one day he said he had nothing to announce, and not long after that, SFV was revealed. It was basically assumed to be almost ready to show as soon as Ono said he had nothing. So Niitsuma is definitely working on Sega vs Capcom, I think they'll probably reveal it closer to SFV's launch.

Ono is known to troll people all the time (for example, he said that Decapre wasn't coming to Ultra, effectively lying), but the others in Capcom are sincere.
So if Niitsuma says he's done with fighters, well it's most probably true...

 

[Projectjustice]

Capcom, theres another company out there with iconic characters just like Marvel. Their name is DC. They have Superman, Wonderwoman, Batman, The Flash, Shazam, Cyborg, Black Adam, Green Arrow and so many more. Just letting you know just in case you didnt

 

[IntelliHeath]

Capcom, theres another company out there with iconic characters just like Marvel. Their name is DC. They have Superman, Wonderwoman, Batman, The Flash, Shazam, Cyborg, Black Adam, Green Arrow and so many more. Just letting you know just in case you didnt

Problem is that Warner Bros bought Midway Chicago and turned it into Netherrealm so I would imagine that they are expecting Netherrealm to make DC fighting games. Why would they outsource it to other fighting company if they already have one?

 

[SerTapTap]

As of January 22nd, Niitsuma said he isn't making fighting games anymore.... don't get your hopes up.

https://twitter.com/Ryota_Niitsuma/status/558490951312998403

Well boo.

Honestly I wish they'd just go Capcom x Capcom. No licensing bullshit and I was always more interested in the Capcom side anyway.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Well boo.

Honestly I wish they'd just go Capcom x Capcom. No licensing bullshit and I was always more interested in the Capcom side anyway.

They did but they decided to dropped it due to SF x TK's low sales according to ShockingAlberto.

Re: Capcom x Capcom

It was almost certainly a game that existed at one point and was intended to play like MvC3, but the below-expectations sales of SFxT tanked it internally.

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

Well boo.

Honestly I wish they'd just go Capcom x Capcom. No licensing bullshit and I was always more interested in the Capcom side anyway.

I've wanted a proper Capcom fighter for years. Its too bad Capcom Fighting Jam was terrible.

 

[noqtic]

If Ninendo vs Capcom never gets made i'd be okay with this.

Though Capcom could just make CvS3 and I'd die a happy man.

 

[Professor Beef]

As of January 22nd, Niitsuma said he isn't making fighting games anymore.... don't get your hopes up.

https://twitter.com/Ryota_Niitsuma/status/558490951312998403

 

[Seven Force]

I don't know if people remember this, but for years Ono would hint that he was about to announce something, and there was just nothing. Then one day he said he had nothing to announce, and not long after that, SFV was revealed. It was basically assumed to be almost ready to show as soon as Ono said he had nothing. So Niitsuma is definitely working on Sega vs Capcom, I think they'll probably reveal it closer to SFV's launch.

Nah, Niitsuma's always been pretty forward (to a fault, even) compared to Ono. If he says he's not working on fighters anymore, I'm inclined to believe that.

 

[Biker19]

I do, for one, as well as many others.

I do as well, as I also grew up playing games starting in the late 80's, but most newer fighting game fans today don't know who they are though, in which characters like the ones that I mentioned are unfamiliar to them.

 

[wildfire]

While I like some of Sega's property for this mashup I still think this is a lame downgrade over Marvel.

It's going to be such a weird mishmash where Knuckles, a xenomorph and Teddy share the same universe.

 

[WonderRade]

I would be very ok with this... Pokken is my most hyped fighter right now but this could get up there

 

[tim_pkmn89]

I read some of the roster wishlist stuff here. I have a question for Phantasy Star fans/people who know of Phantasy Star

It's pretty important the franchise gets represented, but who would they choose to represent the franchise? Is it really okay to choose a create-a-character template as a representative? I realize PSO and PSO2 are popular, but it still feels off.

Throw Dark Falz in as a boss

 

[Sesha]

As of January 22nd, Niitsuma said he isn't making fighting games anymore.... don't get your hopes up.

https://twitter.com/Ryota_Niitsuma/status/558490951312998403

UMvC3 was initially supposed to be spread-out DLC, but then those natural disasters happened to force their hand. That second one is just your bias.


I do, for one, as well as many others.

I never bought or played Dragon's Dogma so I'm not sure what bias you're talking about. I don't have any emotional attachment to Capcom's moneymaking decisions or failures outside of DMC, Breath of Fire and their fighting games. Open world JRPGs are perfect for PC and the demand for titles like Valkyria Chronicles proves there is an audience for JRPGs on the platform.

 

[SparksterMeta0]

Sorry for the bump, but I'm wondering if it's time to make a devoted thread since this event is about to begin later this month...
EDIT: OK. Someone is already making one. My bad.

I have a few OT suggestions:

Spoiler

- Converge onto a Secret War of the [Blue] Worlds

Spoiler

-Sega vs. Capcom, Too!

Spoiler

- Ultimate Sega vs. Capcom, Too! MEGAMIX!

Spoiler

- Project Crossover Zone - Act 2

 

[Videoneon]

Well, a Project Ecks Zone-style game with just Sega and Capcom instead of Sega and Capcom and Namco doesn't make any sense to me.

Yes we need a fighter with all three publishers' properties

SOMEONE PLEASE GET ON THIS

edit: bumping of an old topic...it figures I'd already posted in something like this.

Throw Dark Falz in as a boss

You mean like in Tatsunoko Vs Capcom, when that Okami character was the last boss? Shouldn't a new character or a Capcom character be the last boss (Monster Hunter's Rathalos)? Presumably because Capcom would end up developing it

 

[Mr Swine]

Does anyone know how many comic (episodes) this will last? The Worlds Collide was a tad to short, could have been 16 instead of 12

 

[SparksterMeta0]

Does anyone know how many comic (episodes) this will last? The Worlds Collide was a tad to short, could have been 16 instead of 12

It's twelve issues, with all four game comics (Sonic [Main]/Universe/Boom and Mega Man comics) covering the event.

 

[Tizoc]

Sorry for the bump, but I'm wondering if it's time to make a devoted thread since this event is about to begin later this month...

I have a couple of OT suggestions:

Spoiler

- Converge onto a Secret War of the [Blue] Worlds

Spoiler

- Sega vs. Capcom, Too!

Spoiler

- Project Crossover Zone

Someone in the Sonic Community thread is making the OT, so it'll be up by the end of the month =3

 

[Troubled Bat]

I would absolutely love this to be a thing. Just as long as I have these characters from the Sega side:

- Bayonetta
- Sonic
- Agent G
- Jack Cayman
- Nights

 

[Mr Swine]

It's twelve issues, with all four game comics (Sonic [Main]/Universe/Boom and Mega Man comics) covering the event.

Only twelve? Ugh, I was hoping for more since the Worlds Collide arc was far too short

 

[SnakeSlashRO]

Yes we need a fighter with all three publishers' properties

SOMEONE PLEASE GET ON THIS

edit: bumping of an old topic...it figures I'd already posted in something like this.



You mean like in Tatsunoko Vs Capcom, when that Okami character was the last boss? Shouldn't a new character or a Capcom character be the last boss (Monster Hunter's Rathalos)? Presumably because Capcom would end up developing it

Eh???

Vs

or

or

Marvel vs Capcom 1 and 2 had enemies based off Marvel. I would totally take Falz over just about anything else. He is actually threatening... Specially in Phantasy Star Zero.

 

[Crankshaft]

They should make a Konami x Capcom game, but instead of Konami characters you get to fight against Konami's Management and CEO. Let gamers get their frustrations out.

 

[Tizoc]

They should make a Konami x Capcom game, but instead of Konami characters you get to fight against Konami's Management and CEO. Let gamers get their frustrations out.

You may want to delete/edit your post as it has nothing to do at all with the discussion in hand. If you want to vent about your rage on Konami, go make a thread about it.

 

[SnakeSlashRO]

They should make a Konami x Capcom game, but instead of Konami characters you get to fight against Konami's Management and CEO. Let gamers get their frustrations out.

Konami fighter.... Like Dream Mix TV!?

A horrible game, a game that is actually worse than

But at least it had Bomberman and Snake and Bloody Roar

 

[Crankshaft]

You may want to delete/edit your post as it has nothing to do at all with the discussion in hand. If you want to vent about your rage on Konami, go make a thread about it.

I wasn't speaking about myself. It just seems everyone is miffed at Konami lately so I was making a joke. Sorry I offended you.

I've always thought Capcom should make a Capcom x Capcom game. They have enough characters.