I am more bothered by the requirement to wield weapons, as opposed to planning a quest to max them out. However, I do think it should not take more than 20 items to max out a weapon. Elden Ring standard weapon upgrade material requirements are excessive (8[2+4+6]+1 = 97). In contrast, it is a walk in the park to max out the unique weapons (10[1] = 10).
I see where your coming from Hunnybun! Once one realize its all just numbers going up you can wonder why not just balance the game over a fixed damage rate and cut to the chance.
Right but's it's annoying if you find a weapon you really like but can't use because you have to spend a bunch of time upgrading it.
I get that but souls is overly stingy. E.g. if I've made a strength build maybe I should be allowed to use all the ultra greatswords at least.
Right I do! At the very least after a first playthrough I just want to try different weapons and I don't want spend a stupid amount of time doing it. Maybe the NG+ economy can be different to accommodate both.
Well I can't comment on Breath of the wild but souls game weapon and build variety is fun to experiment with beyond the first playthrough.
Not too fussed abou the multiplayer either way
I like all weapons in From games. Pretty sure, everyone does. Thats the beauty and charm of the game. Every weapon can be strong, and every weapon ca feel nice to play and yes that includes even the long sword. Hell a flaming longsword was all I used in one of the 3 dark souls in one of my playthroughs.
nice game indeed
I mostly agree with this sentiment when it comes to first person and third person shooters. It's very aggravating in a shooter campaign when you're shooting well and have good aim and map awareness but the game is not only telling you that you're doing moot damage, it also insults you by making the enemy A.I. walk right up to you and kill you in a few blows while they tank through that damage.
Then play action game and not RPG, games like Elden Ring and Dark Souls are RPG while Sekiro is an action game.
I am going to respectfully disagree with this.
The little difference a level give may make it appear so. But these games have a very short time-to-kill for both sides, so the difference could mean you can now finish off an enemy unleashing your full stamina bar through increased damage per hit, and/or dealing more hits, which can drastically reduce each encounter's difficulty, especially when defensive options consume the same resource bar.
Ummm....I mean you can "respectfully disagree" all you want but the fact is they are RPGs, both by the players and developers themselves.
I couldn't care less. Put the game in whatever category you see fit if it makes you happy. As far as I am concerned, all these games are what I call "Adventure" games and that's it.
But the point of this thread, grinding for materials to upgrade, does the same thing as leveling and makes a huge difference as it change the number of hits things can take, as well as improving the stability for shields. The game's stamina system makes small numeric difference matters and deceive/reward the average player in thinking it is all their skill/git gud.
This literally has nothing to do with game difficulty and everything to do with game variety.
I find grinding fun most of the time.
Again this has very little to do with difficulty and more to do with being bored by being forced to use the same weapon for 40 hours
Yep! Another big one is running off to chug health in a middle of boss fight. Really breaks the flow of a fight. Funny since bloodbornes rally mechanic was a pretty good solution.
The last thing I would say about Elden ring is that's its balanced.
You can use other weapons that are slightly weaker. Grinding is a huge part of why the Souls games are great. You have to earn everything.Again this has very little to do with difficulty and more to do with being bored by being forced to use the same weapon for 40 hours
Nah, that title belongs to Demon's Souls.
Demon souls did not have mimic
I'll have to disagree. When I play, I rarely use magic. Demon souls solo is much harder than Elden Ring when you can just run away from some encounters and use a high level mimic = co-op all the time..
There is plenty of other cool stuff to find aside from the upgrade stones. That's the problem though all that cool shit you found is meaningless cause you have too upgrade them which requires grinding. (Once you found all the stones in the environment.)
Would be better but that would still require a bunch of clowning about not having fun. I would rather have the ability to just upgrade more weapons so if I'am bored with my current weapon I can just go in a menu and change it as opposed to sodding off to the blacksmith for 5 minutes.
Ding ding ding!
Yeah there's nothing more manly and hardcore than spending countless hours getting good at a videogame....
In a balanced game maybe but none of these games are balanced so I say let the player go nuts trying cool new toys.
