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WrestleMania |OT| Look at the adjective,
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Frecklestein
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what if brock wins
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
I eagerly await seeing the WWE Title go into a trashcan on the next UFC card.
Frecklestein
Banned
brock would copy the GOAT shane douglas
So what's the deal with NXT this week? Is it live? Is Owens out then? That was going to be my Mania
It will be Owens Vs Balor from the Full Sail tapings.
KazenY2J
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Sting/Haitch would probably be better honestly.
Tesseract
Banned
Your baleefs will be exposed for the lies they are, pal.
is that tom cruise's laugh face
Frecklestein
Banned
its like leaving a toxic relationship and they're trying to come back and you're like "did you change? do you own up to your mistakes? can you make me happy?" they say yes, but you know they can't. Not yet anyways. You want to go back, but you stay away because you've been burned one too many times. But they will always be in your heart.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
All they're missing is some togas.
Make a separate OT, it's probably worth it.
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
I'll start
Brock is beating Reigns. I can feel it
Brock is beating Reigns. I can feel it
Hogan to win title in post-main event challenge match, confirmed.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Or alternatively:
Reigns beats Brock.
Rollins cashes in and beats an exhausted Reigns.
Cena comes out of nowhere something something overcomes the odds and unifies the World and USA Titles.
reptilescorpio
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Owens is hurt and apparently they aren't going to stream the Friday night NXT event (with thousands of fans present) live
Hmmm interesting, maybe it'll be taped for future use.
Did details on the match leak out? I hope it's a damn good match either way!
Maaaaaardy
Member
WM28 was truly awful, this is a better card, there's at least three matches here that will deliver. Plus I have a sneaky feeling Lesnar/Reigns will surprise me, won't be that bad, Brock is awesome and Reigns is better than he gets credit for, will just need carrying through it. He isn't the Undertaker.
I've read very good things. Cannot wait.
PhantomZone
Member
I hope Brock retains, can't stand that Roman guy.... he has done squat to earn his place as the top guy of the company.
Wasn't that theme a thinly veiled Metallica copyright rip off or am I thinking of something else?
FlammableD
Banned
Well, his last WCW theme was *actual* Metallica, but yeah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_ZgceIRIfE&t=135
Maaaaaardy
Member
Absolutely nothing except be involved in some of the best matches in the history of RAW/SD!/PPV's in the past 10 years. Aside from that, he's done nothing the pesky swine.
Although it actually is too early, but Cena and Batista weren't ready either. Sink or swim.
I just thought Jimmy Hart had such experience in skirting copyright law by that point that he had gotten a real winner.
Is WWE gonna file a lawsuit against Bill Simmons because he used words like "wrestler" and "wrestling" numerous times?
I can imagine Dunn and McMahon were kicking walls down.
The end to Raw was really lame, they should have just done a MMA sort of press conference where it escalates and have to be retained, its generic shit but at least its better than fighting for a belt.
I can imagine Dunn and McMahon were kicking walls down.
The end to Raw was really lame, they should have just done a MMA sort of press conference where it escalates and have to be retained, its generic shit but at least its better than fighting for a belt.
The Elite
BOSS
I think they failed at that.
One of the worst endings to Raw I have ever seen.
reptilescorpio
Member
It really was embarrassing to watch.
I do not know if it looked better on paper or what, but it was really terrible.
My prediction for sunday
Lesnar VS Reigns - Lesnar , everyone is thinking Reigns is winning but i dont think (at least i hope so) Vince is crazy enough to have his baby (wrestlemania) end with boos , because thats exactly whats going to happen if Reigns wins.
Undertaker VS Wyatt - Wyatt , been a fan since day 1 but after last night promo taker better do the job. Last night Wyatt proved that he´s the fuckin future , what a promo and probably best promo of the year!! If taker really his this unselfish guy everyone says he is , he should put Wyatt over.
Sting VS HHH - Sting for sure , it´s his first match in WWE , i doubt they will have him lose.
Rusev VS Cena - Cena unfortunally but at the same time i wonder "is cena gonna be the US champion? isnt he well above this title?" a winning again Cena would do wonders for Rusev. ohh and Lana better appear at Mania!!!
Bellas VS AJ & Paige - couldnt care less but probably AJ and Paige. Its a shame that the women division is so bad.
Ladder Match - Bryan all the way(that good feel moment for the show) but then again is he like cena above the IC title?
Orton VS Rollins - Rollins deserves to win just because he was the best thing in months on raw and its fuckin great!
Andre Battle Royal - Mizdow and about mizdow how he and miz dont have a one on one match is beyond me , it was the perfect time to have this feud but they completly fucked up , like they did with most of the mania card and will fuck up with the winners.
Lesnar VS Reigns - Lesnar , everyone is thinking Reigns is winning but i dont think (at least i hope so) Vince is crazy enough to have his baby (wrestlemania) end with boos , because thats exactly whats going to happen if Reigns wins.
Undertaker VS Wyatt - Wyatt , been a fan since day 1 but after last night promo taker better do the job. Last night Wyatt proved that he´s the fuckin future , what a promo and probably best promo of the year!! If taker really his this unselfish guy everyone says he is , he should put Wyatt over.
Sting VS HHH - Sting for sure , it´s his first match in WWE , i doubt they will have him lose.
Rusev VS Cena - Cena unfortunally but at the same time i wonder "is cena gonna be the US champion? isnt he well above this title?" a winning again Cena would do wonders for Rusev. ohh and Lana better appear at Mania!!!
Bellas VS AJ & Paige - couldnt care less but probably AJ and Paige. Its a shame that the women division is so bad.
Ladder Match - Bryan all the way(that good feel moment for the show) but then again is he like cena above the IC title?
Orton VS Rollins - Rollins deserves to win just because he was the best thing in months on raw and its fuckin great!
Andre Battle Royal - Mizdow and about mizdow how he and miz dont have a one on one match is beyond me , it was the perfect time to have this feud but they completly fucked up , like they did with most of the mania card and will fuck up with the winners.
PhantomZone
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The crowd will ensure he sinks in their eyes, but then this didn't stop the WWE from running with Cena for as long as they have. I don't legitimately hate him, I just think he's not ready and not worthy of such a push.
The way they have booked Brock - Reigns is laughable, can't really be helped with the way Reigns is being treated by the crowd and Brock's limited appearances schedule.
Violence Jack
Member
That ending made me cringe in the worst way. Even Miz/Cena had better buildup for a WM main event.
Masquerader
Member
If either Taker or Reigns win, I'm done with this company. Legitimately done. And no, I'm not watching the event.
No, Taker does NOT deserve to win. He's FAT. He hasn't shown up at all, because he's a lazy, fat son of a bitch.
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
Glad to see people getting behind Wyatt. He's been booked for shit, but Wyatt deserves to win a big match. I'm personally ok with Reigns winning as long as Rollins cashes in and takes the title from him, otherwise Bork better retain.
For anyone wondering, the reason there's a play button and no "31" in the logo, or a star and no "32" in next year's logo, is because Vince has decided that numbers make WrestleMania sound "old".
Why he's acting like WrestleMania is a dog, not an event, you can ponder yourself, but that's the reason.
Why he's acting like WrestleMania is a dog, not an event, you can ponder yourself, but that's the reason.
The only way to salvage the Reigns - Brock thing is to have Brock destroying Reigns, and have a screwjob angle where Trips, Show, Kane and Rollins and crew all come out and screw Brock and Reigns gets the pin and Vince comes out "COUNT IT, COUNT THE DAMNED PIN" And they all stand in the center holding Reigns hand high with Brock laid out and Paul going crazy/laid out (or hell even in on it).
Make soup out of the potato that this whole thing has turned into.
Crowd would go ape shit and it would dwarf even the NWO event when Hogan went heel I think.
Make soup out of the potato that this whole thing has turned into.
Crowd would go ape shit and it would dwarf even the NWO event when Hogan went heel I think.
Wyatt is fat and lazy son of a bitch with his awful promos.
He deserves a ticket back to NXT more than a win against the Undertaker.
Still negotiating with WWE
This is my first Wrestlemania! I've only watched WM13 in retrospect when I started to go over the Attitude era.
Thoughts on the card and how it has been built since I started watching at Hell in Cell (and properly after Survivor Series)
Cesaro/Kidd (c) vs The Usos vs New Day vs Los Matadores WWE Tag Team Championship
Anticipation Level = 2/5
Tag team division was actually making some ground up towards having proper rivalries with the Usos and Cesaro/Kidd feuding. Instead of building up a new matchup between any of the other teams (maybe the reformed Prime Time Players, who have been shunted to the side already) we get a no storyline multiman match. I want KiddCesaro to retain but Usos will win.
The Second Annual Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Anticipation Level = 1/5
The man who won this last year is on before this match, in a tag team. The best, most developed storyline in the last few months is in this match instead of having its own spot, giving it the 1 on the anticipation level. I hope Titus O' Neil wins, he looks great, talks great and his theme is banging.
Rusev (c) vs John Cena United States Championship
Anticipation Level = 2/5
I couldn't stand Rusev when I started watching. Predictable squashes in an enormously played out storyline. He has definitely grown on me - he can wrestle an entertaining match when given the chance, being extremely agile for a man his size. His mannerisms and heel antics alongside Lana are fantastic. Still the framework of USA vsUSSR Russia is so boring and limiting. Cena has played his role acceptably apart from some really questionable insults thrown to Lana given his supposed good guy standing. Cena will win because he has to and Rusev will have nothing to do after.
Randy Orton vs Seth Rollins
Anticipation Level = 3/5
This should have been the feud. Actually Dean Ambrose vs Seth Rollins should have been the feud coming into Wrestlemania but I'd settle for this. Sadly Orton's return was seriously underwhelming, simply hitting the reset button on the whole thing to build it back up again, poorly, for 3 weeks. I loved the crazy coke fueled Orton pre his going away. Still I'm looking forward to what should be a very entertaining match. I kinda hope Rollins wins because he's been the best part of the show for the last few months and should CASH IN AND WIN THE BELT FOREVER AND EVER.
Daniel Bryan vs Stardust vs Dolph Ziggler vs Luke Harper vs Dean Ambrose vs R Truth vs Wade Barrett (c) WWE Intercontinental Championship Ladder Match
Anticipation Level = 0/5
Turd build. Turd belt. R-Turd. Starturd. Bad News Turd. I genuinely love each one of these performers in this match and they all deserve better. This is the graveyard of my favorites. This is going to get a bit ranty.
People who know a lot more about wrestling than me have said much better things about Daniel Byran. I wasn't there for the moment last year but I can tell that audiences react to this guy and I want to cheer for him.
Stardust had just won the tag belts when I came in. He got some promo time with Goldust and it was weird and great. He is 100% committed to this gimmick. His best promo was put on Youtube. He should be having a singles match vs Goldust here.
Dolph has gone from being the guy that got me to sit down and watch Raw each week at Survivor Series (a position that Reigns should have been in were he not injured, as has been pointed out) to killing himself in a dumb ladder match at TLC for nothing and killing himself again in this dumb ladder match for nothing.
Luke Harper should replace Kane/Big Show in the Authority as the unhinged big guy that murders people.
Dean Ambrose should be the 2010's Stone Cold.
I don't like R-Truth.
Wade Barrett is the finest example of how awful having the IC belt is.
I don't care about how good a match they have, none of it matters. R-Truth will win, I can feel it.
AJ Lee and Paige vs The Bella Twins
Anticipation Level = 1/5
I generally skip the Divas segments on Raw. Recently the NXT women have been stealing the show and I'm glad that the Raw girls are getting longer matches. I hope they can really knock this one out of the park on the big stage to match their developmental peers. So they can move onto the next Total Divas mandated storyline.
The Undertaker vs Bray Wyatt
Anticipation Level = 2/5
Before watching a bunch of 97/98 WWE I was nonplussed for this match. Taker didn't really mean that much to me - I haven't seen him on my TV once. Wyatt promos are great and different but when its all the feud has to rely on beyond cheap lighting tricks to build, they get old quickly. Still this should be a visual setpiece and has potential to have an incredibly weird finish. I still can't forgive Bray for being the roadblock that stopped Rollins vs Ambrose though. God knows who wins, it hurts both a lot to lose.
Sting vs Triple H
Anticipation Level = 3/5
I haven't seen Sting wrestle a match once and my enduring image of him in my mind is this TNA gif which I see in the thread a lot. Thanks to Wrestling isn't Wrestling, 97/98 viewings and the documentary on the Network I know far more about HHH than anyone else on the roster and dig him a lot. I hope his entrance is as cool as the gifs I have seen from 30. Should be a competent match that the crowd will be into. Stang will win.
Brock Lesnar (c) vs Roman Reigns WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Anticipation Level = 5/5
Never saw the Shield in action so I never got to see Roman when people liked him. He should have been wrestling guys like Ziggler, Byran and Harper instead of fucking Big Show, Kane et al. I've seen him mess up promos, wrestle ho-hum matches, make very odd facial expressions, give questionable outside interviews and look unconvincing. Everytime I hear Brock's music hit I get excited. He feels special, otherworldly and very very dangerous. He is easily in my top 5 and I've seen him wrestle once - apart from a brief viewing of the Summerslam match vs Cena. I want him to retain. My anticipation level is so high because I can't wait to hear the reaction to Reigns - pure schadenfreude - whether they'll have him go over clean on Brock AND Rollins cash in on the night or night after and just how bad his title reign will get. Believe that.
Thoughts on the card and how it has been built since I started watching at Hell in Cell (and properly after Survivor Series)
Cesaro/Kidd (c) vs The Usos vs New Day vs Los Matadores WWE Tag Team Championship
Anticipation Level = 2/5
Tag team division was actually making some ground up towards having proper rivalries with the Usos and Cesaro/Kidd feuding. Instead of building up a new matchup between any of the other teams (maybe the reformed Prime Time Players, who have been shunted to the side already) we get a no storyline multiman match. I want KiddCesaro to retain but Usos will win.
The Second Annual Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Anticipation Level = 1/5
The man who won this last year is on before this match, in a tag team. The best, most developed storyline in the last few months is in this match instead of having its own spot, giving it the 1 on the anticipation level. I hope Titus O' Neil wins, he looks great, talks great and his theme is banging.
Rusev (c) vs John Cena United States Championship
Anticipation Level = 2/5
I couldn't stand Rusev when I started watching. Predictable squashes in an enormously played out storyline. He has definitely grown on me - he can wrestle an entertaining match when given the chance, being extremely agile for a man his size. His mannerisms and heel antics alongside Lana are fantastic. Still the framework of USA vs
Randy Orton vs Seth Rollins
Anticipation Level = 3/5
This should have been the feud. Actually Dean Ambrose vs Seth Rollins should have been the feud coming into Wrestlemania but I'd settle for this. Sadly Orton's return was seriously underwhelming, simply hitting the reset button on the whole thing to build it back up again, poorly, for 3 weeks. I loved the crazy coke fueled Orton pre his going away. Still I'm looking forward to what should be a very entertaining match. I kinda hope Rollins wins because he's been the best part of the show for the last few months and should CASH IN AND WIN THE BELT FOREVER AND EVER.
Daniel Bryan vs Stardust vs Dolph Ziggler vs Luke Harper vs Dean Ambrose vs R Truth vs Wade Barrett (c) WWE Intercontinental Championship Ladder Match
Anticipation Level = 0/5
Turd build. Turd belt. R-Turd. Starturd. Bad News Turd. I genuinely love each one of these performers in this match and they all deserve better. This is the graveyard of my favorites. This is going to get a bit ranty.
People who know a lot more about wrestling than me have said much better things about Daniel Byran. I wasn't there for the moment last year but I can tell that audiences react to this guy and I want to cheer for him.
Stardust had just won the tag belts when I came in. He got some promo time with Goldust and it was weird and great. He is 100% committed to this gimmick. His best promo was put on Youtube. He should be having a singles match vs Goldust here.
Dolph has gone from being the guy that got me to sit down and watch Raw each week at Survivor Series (a position that Reigns should have been in were he not injured, as has been pointed out) to killing himself in a dumb ladder match at TLC for nothing and killing himself again in this dumb ladder match for nothing.
Luke Harper should replace Kane/Big Show in the Authority as the unhinged big guy that murders people.
Dean Ambrose should be the 2010's Stone Cold.
I don't like R-Truth.
Wade Barrett is the finest example of how awful having the IC belt is.
I don't care about how good a match they have, none of it matters. R-Truth will win, I can feel it.
AJ Lee and Paige vs The Bella Twins
Anticipation Level = 1/5
I generally skip the Divas segments on Raw. Recently the NXT women have been stealing the show and I'm glad that the Raw girls are getting longer matches. I hope they can really knock this one out of the park on the big stage to match their developmental peers. So they can move onto the next Total Divas mandated storyline.
The Undertaker vs Bray Wyatt
Anticipation Level = 2/5
Before watching a bunch of 97/98 WWE I was nonplussed for this match. Taker didn't really mean that much to me - I haven't seen him on my TV once. Wyatt promos are great and different but when its all the feud has to rely on beyond cheap lighting tricks to build, they get old quickly. Still this should be a visual setpiece and has potential to have an incredibly weird finish. I still can't forgive Bray for being the roadblock that stopped Rollins vs Ambrose though. God knows who wins, it hurts both a lot to lose.
Sting vs Triple H
Anticipation Level = 3/5
I haven't seen Sting wrestle a match once and my enduring image of him in my mind is this TNA gif which I see in the thread a lot. Thanks to Wrestling isn't Wrestling, 97/98 viewings and the documentary on the Network I know far more about HHH than anyone else on the roster and dig him a lot. I hope his entrance is as cool as the gifs I have seen from 30. Should be a competent match that the crowd will be into. Stang will win.
Brock Lesnar (c) vs Roman Reigns WWE World Heavyweight Championship
Anticipation Level = 5/5
Never saw the Shield in action so I never got to see Roman when people liked him. He should have been wrestling guys like Ziggler, Byran and Harper instead of fucking Big Show, Kane et al. I've seen him mess up promos, wrestle ho-hum matches, make very odd facial expressions, give questionable outside interviews and look unconvincing. Everytime I hear Brock's music hit I get excited. He feels special, otherworldly and very very dangerous. He is easily in my top 5 and I've seen him wrestle once - apart from a brief viewing of the Summerslam match vs Cena. I want him to retain. My anticipation level is so high because I can't wait to hear the reaction to Reigns - pure schadenfreude - whether they'll have him go over clean on Brock AND Rollins cash in on the night or night after and just how bad his title reign will get. Believe that.
Masquerader
Member
I dunno, Taker deserves a ticket back to NXT. Dude technically hasn't wrestled a good match in over two years.
And Taker's promos against Wyatt are the worst. Because he's so lazy that they don't exist.
BFIB
Member
I cannot wait for the glorious crowd after WM and if Reigns walks out w/ the title.
Might as well have Bryan, Rock, Cena, Stone Cold, Undertaker, Mick Foley, HHH, Bret Hart, Hulk Hogan, Sting, Ric Flair, Harley Race, the ghost of Andre, ready to stand in line and sing the praises of Reigns.
This is your life Reigns. Book it Vinnie Mac!
Might as well have Bryan, Rock, Cena, Stone Cold, Undertaker, Mick Foley, HHH, Bret Hart, Hulk Hogan, Sting, Ric Flair, Harley Race, the ghost of Andre, ready to stand in line and sing the praises of Reigns.
This is your life Reigns. Book it Vinnie Mac!
I can see Brock v Reigns going the distance with Lesnar actually winning, but he will be so exhausted ( a la Taker v HHH #2) that he will need physical assistance.
Then before he can take another step towards leaving for UFC, BAM, Rollins Cashes in with 3 glorious curb stomps to take that belt, and give someone Roman can believably win that title against later on. Lesnar's contract is up, and he can set up a revenge match later if he wants to return.
Taker is gonna lose and permanently retire. What's more shocking then Taker losing once? Losing TWICE!
Cena will STF Rusev into Oblivion, for America.
Then before he can take another step towards leaving for UFC, BAM, Rollins Cashes in with 3 glorious curb stomps to take that belt, and give someone Roman can believably win that title against later on. Lesnar's contract is up, and he can set up a revenge match later if he wants to return.
Taker is gonna lose and permanently retire. What's more shocking then Taker losing once? Losing TWICE!
Cena will STF Rusev into Oblivion, for America.
ShadowsFell
Member
So the final showdown between "The Beast" and "The Samoan Badass" before Wrestlemania ends with:
"Gimme that back!"
"No it's mine!"
Holy shit WWE.
"Gimme that back!"
"No it's mine!"
Holy shit WWE.
This year's Mania is, without question, the least-hyped I've ever seen a Mania in a long, long time. Even with Sting appearing, nothing really feels very special. They've done an awful job of building it up.
This is likely my last WWE PPV for a while. I rarely ever watch RAW (fell asleep watching it last night) and I'll be canceling my sub this month. They've just killed all my interest with the direction they've been going in.
This is likely my last WWE PPV for a while. I rarely ever watch RAW (fell asleep watching it last night) and I'll be canceling my sub this month. They've just killed all my interest with the direction they've been going in.
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