He still lost his shit when he chair shotted rowan, not enough to get dq'd, but still made something "wrong"
Yeah, I saw all those gifs, the difference is this is the first time that Cena is selling the fact that is scared. I honestly see this as the kickout for a long term heel turn
Bryan vs HHH - Cena came out and pinned both guys. HHH was on top of Bryan of course when the pin happened.
The Shield vs Kane w/ NAO - The Shield did a double powerbomb on NAO only for Cena to come out and win.
Andre the Giant Musical Spectacular - Fandango awed us with his pelvic thrusts. Many were too mesmerized to notice Cena take out the remaining wrestlers.
Bray Wyatt vs Cena - Cena fought his inner demons and held off any urge to unleash the monster on Bray, but for some reason he was perfectly fine with releasing the monster on the rest of the Wyatt family. Cena won.
Taker vs Brock Lesnar - Fans were too legit shook to notice that Cena wasn't actually in this match.
Diva - I missed this one but from what I heard Cena blew the crowd.
Batista vs Bryan vs Orton - Fantastic match. Batista and Orton teamed up and man handled Bryan. CM Punk chants were heard throughout the arena as Bryan took the victory.
None of this actually happened the way it's described here.
Keller was reporting that he was hearing as few people knew about that finish as anything ever. You could count on one hand the amount of people who knew.
Ref was told during the match probably. Lesnar and Heyman probably knew. They probably make both graphics every year so as to not raise suspicions either way.
He still lost his shit when he chair shotted rowan, not enough to get dq'd, but still made something "wrong"
Yeah, I saw all those gifs, the difference is this is the first time that Cena is selling the fact that is scared. I honestly see this as the kickout for a long term heel turn
WWE.com can confirm that, following last's night historic match with Brock Lesnar, The Undertaker was immediately taken to Ochsner Medical Center. After a CT scan and other medical testing, he was diagnosed with a severe concussion and was kept overnight for further evaluation. He was discharged early Monday afternoon.
So now that the emotion has had a chance to settle, what's WrestleGAFs final verdict on Taker putting over Lesnar?
I still think it was a terrible decision. If you were going to give it to a part timer, at least give it to Rock. However if anyone ultimately deserved it, it was Michaels. It would've been the perfect ending to his career.
Michaels was on his way out which is why he didn't break the streak. If anything, you should ask why didn't Michaels put someone else over for his last feud.
As for Lesnar being the man chosen to break the streak I think he was one of the very few choices available.
Maybe he had the 22-0 slide ready to go and then, like a true professional, backspaced and made it 21-1? I mean that shit's in Times New Roman or something. It was probably done in PowerPoint.
See, here we can be brothers. The WWE roster, no matter how you may think it's being used, is the best it's been since probably right after the WCW buyout. Aside from guys like Khali who are mostly in comedy roles, there's not many 'bad' wrestlers (insert Cena jokes from the haters here) even on TV anymore.
There is somewhere to go with it. While Cena is wrestling over the next couple weeks have his opponents push his buttons and he keeps losing his cool. Cena will look like he won initally but Bray actually got into his head. This would be a cool way to continue the story.
Yeah if they are smart about it this story could have some legs. Honestly the Bray Cena match was pretty good. It certainly helps that Bray is so comfortable with his character. Also Cena didn't do terribly at the 'conquering his demons thing." I would have preferred seeing more of the turmoil (him going from super angry to smiling in the ring was too fast a turn), but I understand that they couldn't let him go too far (for the kiddies). Also the commentators could have done more to sell the turmoil. A Michael Cole saying, "This is not Cena, This is not Cena. I can't believe what I am seeing here." could have made it better. Cena isn't a terrible wrestler and he is pretty charismatic, The thing he needs to learn is how to sell. Not just sell the moves, but sell the story behind the moves.
So now that the emotion has had a chance to settle, what's WrestleGAFs final verdict on Taker putting over Lesnar?
I still think it was a terrible decision. If you were going to give it to a part timer, at least give it to Rock. However if anyone ultimately deserved it, it was Michaels. It would've been the perfect ending to his career.
I think he should have stopped at WM28. But Brock winning makes a lot more sense to me than Rock winning. The end game is it (in theory) builds up Brock even more, helps his draw, likely makes him stick around for a while, and whoever beats him after this is going to get a big rub. Which is something that couldn't be done with Taker losing to a young guy. That young guy would have that around his neck for the rest of his career. With Brock, he's Brock fucking Lesnar. Dude could destroy anyone on the roster. And it doesn't matter if people resent him for it. In fact, it probably helps. And then he'll put someone else over and help make another star. HBK breaking the streak would have been a waste since he was also at the end of his career and wasn't someone who you can build up to beating as being this massive thing.
So now that the emotion has had a chance to settle, what's WrestleGAFs final verdict on Taker putting over Lesnar?
I still think it was a terrible decision. If you were going to give it to a part timer, at least give it to Rock. However if anyone ultimately deserved it, it was Michaels. It would've been the perfect ending to his career.
I still think it was a bad decision too. The build up for this match was all wrong assuming Taker was finally going to go down. And if Taker goes down it should be to someone who hasn't already left the company once to chase money.
I think he should have stopped at WM28. But Brock winning makes a lot more sense to me than Rock winning. The end game is it (in theory) builds up Brock even more, helps his draw, likely makes him stick around for a while, and whoever beats him after this is going to get a big rub. Which is something that couldn't be done with Taker losing to a young guy. That young guy would have that around his neck for the rest of his career. With Brock, he's Brock fucking Lesnar. Dude could destroy anyone on the roster. And it doesn't matter if people resent him for it. In fact, it probably helps. And then he'll put someone else over and help make another star. HBK breaking the streak would have been a waste since he was also at the end of his career and wasn't someone who you can build up to beating as being this massive thing.
I would disagree in the sense that they shouldn't squander potentially great moments just for the sake of putting someone over. That can still be done, but leave room for historic, omgwtf moments that actually WORK.
I stand by my opinion that Lesnar is boring as batshit. The guy can wrestle but that's pretty much it. The fart in a balloon that was Goldberg v Lesnar at WM20 ended the hype surrounding Lesnar forever for me.
I think he should have stopped at WM28. But Brock winning makes a lot more sense to me than Rock winning. The end game is it (in theory) builds up Brock even more, helps his draw, likely makes him stick around for a while, and whoever beats him after this is going to get a big rub. Which is something that couldn't be done with Taker losing to a young guy. That young guy would have that around his neck for the rest of his career. With Brock, he's Brock fucking Lesnar. Dude could destroy anyone on the roster. And it doesn't matter if people resent him for it. In fact, it probably helps. And then he'll put someone else over and help make another star. HBK breaking the streak would have been a waste since he was also at the end of his career and wasn't someone who you can build up to beating as being this massive thing.
It's not because he's not around so much, but because he's an older guy that doesn't benefit from being the guy that beat the streak. I find Lesnar no less legitimate against anyone because of him beating the streak. He had enough legitimacy by just being MMA CHAMPION BRRRRROOOCK LESSSNAAAAAARRRR.
It's because they could have pushed a young person by being the one to beat the streak. Bray would have been a great choice. Bryan would have been a good choice, but misplaced given he needed the title win on this show instead, but he could have beaten the streak and win the title on the same show, think about that. Any one guy from The Shield would have been a decent choice as well.
The pedigree of beating the streak would have done wonders in putting over these guys for a lifetime, but Lesnar just doesn't benefit from it at all.
yeah he might show up tonight but a severe concussion is pretty bad, if he doesn't show and sting still has a contract there is no one else for him to really fight...I actually think Wyatts might be a good choice htough if it comes down to it.
You just reminded me of his fucking milk from a forgetful cow comment last night. You'd think after all these years he would be a pro at thinking on his feet.
I would disagree in the sense that they shouldn't squander potentially great moments just for the sake of putting someone over. That can still be done, but leave room for historic, omgwtf moments that actually WORK.
I stand by my opinion that Lesnar is boring as batshit. The guy can wrestle but that's pretty much it. The fart in a balloon that was Goldberg v Lesnar at WM20 ended the hype surrounding Lesnar forever for me.
How was HBK breaking the streak going to be a historic moment that would WORK? There was ZERO reason that HBK should have won either of those matches. Him not being able to beat Taker was kind of the entire point of a 2 year angle. What's the point of having a retiring guy break the streak? It doesn't help him. It can't help anyone else. It's a big waste. And he and Taker are both old school dudes who go out putting people over when they leave the territory. That's how shit always worked. HBK's slow walk out at 26 was much bigger of a moment than if he had broken the streak.
Its still making me laugh that people literally cannot accept Undertaker losing to the point they're suggesting it was potentially a mistake/Bork shooting/Undertaker retiring mid match/bad ref count
yeah he might show up tonight but a severe concussion is pretty bad, if he doesn't show and sting still has a contract there is no one else for him to really fight...I actually think Wyatts might be a good choice htough if it comes down to it.
The ones that boo him aren't the ones he is selling to. His audience are kids, and kids still love him to death. There is a reason he is still killing the rest of the WWE in merch in both live events and on the website.
It's not because he's not around so much, but because he's an older guy that doesn't benefit from being the guy that beat the streak. I find Lesnar no less legitimate against anyone because of him beating the streak. He had enough legitimacy by just being MMA CHAMPION BRRRRROOOCK LESSSNAAAAAARRRR.
It's because they could have pushed a young person by being the one to beat the streak. Bray would have been a great choice. Bryan would have been a good choice, but misplaced given he needed the title win on this show instead, but he could have beaten the streak and win the title on the same show, think about that. Any one guy from The Shield would have been a decent choice as well.
The pedigree of beating the streak would have done wonders in putting over these guys for a lifetime, but Lesnar just doesn't benefit from it at all.
Giving it to somebody like a member of the Shield would have been a definite mistake. See how much they're getting cheered now, and realize that never happens again the second one of them pins Taker, or Flair, or Shawn, or whoever and retires them. It's the main flaw with this idea: if you give a young person the honor of doing something big enough that they'll never be cheered again after it, you're taking the chance that person would never be a success as a face.
Nobody was cheering Brock before this, and nobody has reason to now. Few people will be able to face him because of his schedule, so at best few people will be able to say they beat the man who ended the streak.
I don't think Brock was the best person to give this to and it wasn't a good match, but if you want something that will be remembered, something that won't backfire, and something that will mean something for the fans to the few people who may beat him after this before he's done himself, this works.
It's not because he's not around so much, but because he's an older guy that doesn't benefit from being the guy that beat the streak. I find Lesnar no less legitimate against anyone because of him beating the streak. He had enough legitimacy by just being MMA CHAMPION BRRRRROOOCK LESSSNAAAAAARRRR.
It's because they could have pushed a young person by being the one to beat the streak. Bray would have been a great choice. Bryan would have been a good choice, but misplaced given he needed the title win on this show instead, but he could have beaten the streak and win the title on the same show, think about that. Any one guy from The Shield would have been a decent choice as well.
The pedigree of beating the streak would have done wonders in putting over these guys for a lifetime, but Lesnar just doesn't benefit from it at all.
